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bluewhitearmy
28/12/2012, 11:37 PM
Dom's doing his UEFA B badge currently as far as I know.
As for picking out Tony Whitehead, you should go watch the 19s. Tony could be a decent squad member, but that's it at the moment. Time is on their side as I said in my previous post "CURRENTLY not good enough"
And "highly paid management team and players"? I didn't realise you saw the payslips. People vastly overestimate the money some people at the club are on. The only reason some of them have joined is because their wages are guaranteed, not because they are earning thousands a week.

My biggest problem with him from an outside opinion (i dont know him, could be the nicest bloke in the world) would be that line "good coach, poor man manager" that people who have worked with him throw out. Can't really afford to be in premier and have any aggro behind the scenes. Plus, it's not a great look for the club after all the big talk of Phil Brown and that, to then bring back a manager who's walked away twice... It doesn't seem like a step forward to me.

I dont think when people say that they mean he is the kind to cause trouble. I know Mike and he is a nice fella but a bit kinda starnge is the best way to describe it not great at communicating very very quiet man which isnt great for a manger. Im sure someone else that knows him will describe what i mean better.

kingpin4
29/12/2012, 12:16 AM
I dont think when people say that they mean he is the kind to cause trouble. I know Mike and he is a nice fella but a bit kinda starnge is the best way to describe it not great at communicating very very quiet man which isnt great for a manger. Im sure someone else that knows him will describe what i mean better.

I kind of worded that poorly to be fair, I don't mean he'll deliberately cause trouble, but at that the level of professionalism that Gamble, Bradley et.al would expect, surely a bit of aggro will happen if he can't communicate with them.
And if he is an assistant, you'd imagine then the possibility that if he can't act as a link between the squad and the manager then there could be problems. Maybe I'm just being too negative and seeing problems there, but I'd hate for the team to go up and just struggle along for the year or for it to all fall apart.

bluewhitearmy
29/12/2012, 12:57 AM
I kind of worded that poorly to be fair, I don't mean he'll deliberately cause trouble, but at that the level of professionalism that Gamble, Bradley et.al would expect, surely a bit of aggro will happen if he can't communicate with them.
And if he is an assistant, you'd imagine then the possibility that if he can't act as a link between the squad and the manager then there could be problems. Maybe I'm just being too negative and seeing problems there, but I'd hate for the team to go up and just struggle along for the year or for it to all fall apart.


Na dont think you are being too negative at all valid point in fairness. Id just hope that if he was assistant that whoever was manger was the talking type that players could go to. Id hope that Mike just turned up did his training and that was it cos that is all he is suited to imo. Perfect scenario for me would be Manger, someone like Tommy Barrett as assistant and Kerley as a coach. I think they need Kerley as assistant over having the badges though.

fieldofmarkets
29/12/2012, 11:43 AM
don't know any of the details of how Kerley's previous stints ended but I always thought we played good football under him, which would be a nice change. I don't put much stock in his waterford or athlone stints either, he really had nothing to play with there. I'd be happy to see him back. We went on a great run of results for the second half of the season a few years back, just before Scully. I think that was under Kerley too before he walked away. Was a huge blow as I had big hopes for that season. Didn't make sense at the time so I assume there must have been a strong reason.

thomas72
29/12/2012, 11:47 AM
Limerick 19s are playing carew park today if people want to see a few of those names talked about carew will be without the lads playing Oscar trainer.

Jofspring
29/12/2012, 6:47 PM
Limerick 19s are playing carew park today if people want to see a few of those names talked about carew will be without the lads playing Oscar trainer.

How did the match go. Would love to have gone out for a look but it was on the same time as the Munster game.

edit: its ok i saw it, they lost 6-0.

bluewhitearmy
30/12/2012, 12:41 AM
It was definitely Tommy and Mike anyway that were seen but its not as manager and assistant unfortunately what it is for would suggest we wont have a manger anytime soon.

kingpin4
30/12/2012, 1:33 AM
It was definitely Tommy and Mike anyway that were seen but its not as manager and assistant unfortunately what it is for would suggest we wont have a manger anytime soon.

What was it for? The academy? Or are they trying to get some training going? If its the latter, it was just the 2 of them there. Unless players were still in dressing room or something? Any idea? I only drove past quickly but didnt see anyone else there...

Also, no update on manager? What about the story that the contract was signed before Christmas and they were waiting to announce?! The longer it goes on, the less enthusiastic I am about the season.

bluewhitearmy
30/12/2012, 1:42 AM
What was it for? The academy? Or are they trying to get some training going? If its the latter, it was just the 2 of them there. Unless players were still in dressing room or something? Any idea? I only drove past quickly but didnt see anyone else there...

Also, no update on manager? What about the story that the contract was signed before Christmas and they were waiting to announce?! The longer it goes on, the less enthusiastic I am about the season.


First i heard the other day from someone that wouldn't talk bull that he had it from a good source that the manager was in place already. I was told tonight though that Mike and Tommy have been asked will they take pre-season until the club can get a manager, bit of a joke imo if we dont have a manger before pre season starts. Id guess that it was just the 2 of them there doing a bit of planning or something. But they have 100% been asked to take pre sesaon til the club can find a manger.

Lim till i die
30/12/2012, 3:52 AM
bit of a joke imo if we dont have a manger before pre season starts

Where will we put the little baby jesus?! :-P

Nah, i kinda hope we never get a manager, this thread has become fantastic.

kingpin4
30/12/2012, 10:18 AM
First i heard the other day from someone that wouldn't talk bull that he had it from a good source that the manager was in place already. I was told tonight though that Mike and Tommy have been asked will they take pre-season until the club can get a manager, bit of a joke imo if we dont have a manger before pre season starts. Id guess that it was just the 2 of them there doing a bit of planning or something. But they have 100% been asked to take pre sesaon til the club can find a manger.

My thoughts... That's a shambles! With guys holding off on signing until they know who the manager is, and only 6 players signed, I am very worried about the season ahead if we don't have a manager before pre season. I was talking to a mate of mine this morning who's related to 1 of the players, he said it was a training session. They found out the night before about it and no one showed up... (Various reasons like no contracts, some think Mike is a step back from Scully, poor organisation, away for Xmas and so on) Now, take some of the excuses with a pinch of salt, but if true, that isn't good at all.

Jofspring
30/12/2012, 10:37 AM
Very frustrating if no manager is in place yet. There is only so long people will say give the club time to get the right man in etc... Going into pre-season is too late. Scully has been sacked since the 14th of November so taking nearly two months to find a manager is really dragging it. If they get a good manager in in the next few weeks I'm sure everyone will be happy but if we end up resorting to throwing anyone in for the sake of it because time is running out it will be a disaster. I know if I was a player with offers elsewhere and there was no sign of a manager or an exact idea of who else was signing or when training was starting and so on I'd probably sign for someone else.

thomas72
30/12/2012, 10:45 AM
How did the match go. Would love to have gone out for a look but it was on the same time as the Munster game.

edit: its ok i saw it, they lost 6-0.

could not believe carew destroyed them that easily with half a team out (Oscar trainer) was very disappointed couple of good players rainsford and anto o donnell were good but as for putting them into senior squad not a chance. There young lads so hopefully they kick on and learn.

bluewhitearmy
30/12/2012, 12:37 PM
My thoughts... That's a shambles! With guys holding off on signing until they know who the manager is, and only 6 players signed, I am very worried about the season ahead if we don't have a manager before pre season. I was talking to a mate of mine this morning who's related to 1 of the players, he said it was a training session. They found out the night before about it and no one showed up... (Various reasons like no contracts, some think Mike is a step back from Scully, poor organisation, away for Xmas and so on) Now, take some of the excuses with a pinch of salt, but if true, that isn't good at all.

Just because the lads have been asked that doesn't mean there is no hope of a manager before pre-season i would imagine but the fact that they have even had to been asked is a joke. I wouldn't blame any lads if they didn't bother with excuses and just told em to f off why should they bother turning up risking injury for people that have given them no indication if they will be signed or not. We are taking a huge step up from the first division and a good pre season is vital in a season like that. Could definitely lose a few of the better players if we have nothing by pre-season and as much as some people would pretend that isnt a problem there isn't that much out there to replace the likes of O'Leary and Gaffney.


could not believe carew destroyed them that easily with half a team out (Oscar trainer) was very disappointed couple of good players rainsford and anto o donnell were good but as for putting them into senior squad not a chance. There young lads so hopefully they kick on and learn.


Who were Carew missing? All i noticed was Grant and Pa Boyle. Played some nice football Limerick defence was a bit of a joke though i hope that centre back isn't Tony Whiteheads natural position cos if it is he is 100 miles away from being good enough for first team.

thomas72
30/12/2012, 12:58 PM
Just because the lads have been asked that doesn't mean there is no hope of a manager before pre-season i would imagine but the fact that they have even had to been asked is a joke. I wouldn't blame any lads if they didn't bother with excuses and just told em to f off why should they bother turning up risking injury for people that have given them no indication if they will be signed or not. We are taking a huge step up from the first division and a good pre season is vital in a season like that. Could definitely lose a few of the better players if we have nothing by pre-season and as much as some people would pretend that isnt a problem there isn't that much out there to replace the likes of O'Leary and Gaffney.




Who were Carew missing? All i noticed was Grant and Pa Boyle. Played some nice football Limerick defence was a bit of a joke though i hope that centre back isn't Tony Whiteheads natural position cos if it is he is 100 miles away from being good enough for first team.

Pa boyle john boyle Jonathan grant Francis kett with Oscar trainer. Brian ahern injuried due back next weekend

faceoff
30/12/2012, 1:04 PM
They aren't.

Just you wait and see,they couldn't get a manager for the money they were offering,and little or no money for players,so it will be as you were,that's if last seasons squad sign on again,I'd say there's a lot of lads p****d off with the way the current situation is,and who could blame them.

bluewhitearmy
30/12/2012, 1:09 PM
Just you wait and see,they couldn't get a manager for the money they were offering,and little or no money for players,so it will be as you were,that's if last seasons squad sign on again,I'd say there's a lot of lads p****d off with the way the current situation is,and who could blame them.


I thought when you said that you meant they were appointed already agree 100% with ya now there is a good chance they will end up in the job. Id give it to em now being honest and let em start signing.

kingpin4
30/12/2012, 1:28 PM
Just because the lads have been asked that doesn't mean there is no hope of a manager before pre-season i would imagine but the fact that they have even had to been asked is a joke. I wouldn't blame any lads if they didn't bother with excuses and just told em to f off why should they bother turning up risking injury for people that have given them no indication if they will be signed or not. We are taking a huge step up from the first division and a good pre season is vital in a season like that. Could definitely lose a few of the better players if we have nothing by pre-season and as much as some people would pretend that isnt a problem there isn't that much out there to replace the likes of O'Leary and Gaffney.


First time I've agreed 100% with1 of your posts, you went and ruined it all then by saying you'd give them the job now and let them start signing people ;)

In all seriousness though, I wouldn't let either of them at it. It's a recipe for disaster. Players like O'Leary/ Gaffney won't sign (because its not progress on the clubs part) I could see Gamble or Bradley trying to leave (and who'd blame them, not exactly professional standards they were promised)
As it stands, a few weeks before pre season should be starting and there's no one in place, no team, no management or staff.
What about Declan Farmer? He's worked with the players before, they know him, he's already at the club...surely that should have been the most logical person to put in there for a few weeks.

bluewhitearmy
30/12/2012, 1:48 PM
First time I've agreed 100% with1 of your posts, you went and ruined it all then by saying you'd give them the job now and let them start signing people ;)

In all seriousness though, I wouldn't let either of them at it. It's a recipe for disaster. Players like O'Leary/ Gaffney won't sign (because its not progress on the clubs part) I could see Gamble or Bradley trying to leave (and who'd blame them, not exactly professional standards they were promised)
As it stands, a few weeks before pre season should be starting and there's no one in place, no team, no management or staff.
What about Declan Farmer? He's worked with the players before, they know him, he's already at the club...surely that should have been the most logical person to put in there for a few weeks.


The fact i want them to get it is just a sign of how desperate i think things have gone. Your right the likes of O'Leary and Gaffney might not sign for them but then again if its not them will O'Leary and Gaffney still be around by the time we do have a manger i wonder.


I think it says a lot about what the club think of Farmer the fact that his assistant with the under 19s was picked ahead of him to help out with the senior team. I dont know what Farmer is like or anything myself just think they must not rate him too highly to pick his assistant ahead of him.

Edit: Im probably reading too much into it and its just the fact that Tommy would know the lads and would know Mike well.

kingpin4
30/12/2012, 2:03 PM
The fact i want them to get it is just a sign of how desperate i think things have gone. Your right the likes of O'Leary and Gaffney might not sign for them but then again if its not them will O'Leary and Gaffney still be around by the time we do have a manger i wonder.

I think it says a lot about what the club think of Farmer the fact that his assistant with the under 19s was picked ahead of him to help out with the senior team. I dont know what Farmer is like or anything myself just think they must not rate him too highly to pick his assistant ahead of him.

Good point, your damned if you do and damned if you don't. Another thing my mate said to me this morning is that the players are clueless to what's going on. None of them have heard anymore on contracts or anything.

I still think Farmer would be a better fit just to get things organised, players know how he works, he could have organised a session and just get them in a gym or something. It would look a million times better than organising a session and no one being there.
Also, Tommy really only knows the old limerick heads, paddy, calla, Tracy and Judge...can't imagine gamble, Bradley, Behan or Foley would be too receptive to him.

I just can't believe the club didnt have someone lined up before they sacked Scully.

bluewhitearmy
30/12/2012, 2:16 PM
Good point, your damned if you do and damned if you don't. Another thing my mate said to me this morning is that the players are clueless to what's going on. None of them have heard anymore on contracts or anything.

I still think Farmer would be a better fit just to get things organised, players know how he works, he could have organised a session and just get them in a gym or something. It would look a million times better than organising a session and no one being there.
Also, Tommy really only knows the old limerick heads, paddy, calla, Tracy and Judge...can't imagine gamble, Bradley, Behan or Foley would be too receptive to him.

I just can't believe the club didnt have someone lined up before they sacked Scully.


Any of them that i have spoken to have said the same, as you can imagine none are too pleased about it. I don't really know what the club could say to em but surely they could say something at this stage even just a quick phonecall to say things are moving along with search for manger we will be back in touch soon.

kingpin4
30/12/2012, 3:41 PM
Any of them that i have spoken to have said the same, as you can imagine none are too pleased about it. I don't really know what the club could say to em but surely they could say something at this stage even just a quick phonecall to say things are moving along with search for manger we will be back in touch soon.

Exactly that, a quick phone call just to keep them in the loop. By comparison, Cork have had their squad in the gym since mid November, Rovers have been doing a few days a week as well since the start of December I believe.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of them heading to Norway in January with Scully and the PFAI team.

Jalna
30/12/2012, 11:09 PM
speaking to one of the players lastnight, and he was saying that most of last years squad looking elsewhere for offers. its gone on too long, with no communication at all between club and players.

Minesapint
31/12/2012, 1:15 PM
Why hasn't the manager been selected, why the delay anyone?

blueblood
31/12/2012, 1:29 PM
rumor has it the club are in talks with someone else in the UK now, all to be revealed by the weekend, also heard club not too bothered about signing players until then as UK players are probably cheaper than loi players are, i wouldn't be too sure about this plan but hopefully im proved wrong,

Minesapint
31/12/2012, 2:54 PM
rumor has it the club are in talks with someone else in the UK now, all to be revealed by the weekend, also heard club not too bothered about signing players until then as UK players are probably cheaper than loi players are, i wouldn't be too sure about this plan but hopefully im proved wrong,
I agree , the club must produce home grown players for the future, and i dont think players will travel from England to play in a lesser league for cheap.

kingpin4
31/12/2012, 2:58 PM
I agree , the club must produce home grown players for the future, and i dont think players will travel from England to play in a lesser league for cheap.

Exactly... They might get them on loan, but then you have a situation where their own club will want them full time, so are the club going to get a full time Physio, sports scientist, psychologist and coaches for those players?
I think the club look so far out of touch with reality at the moment. I heard they set pre season to start in the 2nd week of Jan... Won't look great with 6 players showing up.

El-Pietro
31/12/2012, 3:30 PM
but sure you'll be in Markets Field any day now.... then you'll get a manager... then sign players....

Lim till i die
31/12/2012, 8:04 PM
but sure you'll be in Markets Field any day now.... then you'll get a manager... then sign players....

Are you somehow trying to imply that because the Markets Field didn't come off the club wont have a manager or players this year?

THREAD OF THE YEAR. :good:

kingpin4
01/01/2013, 11:05 AM
Are you somehow trying to imply that because the Markets Field didn't come off the club wont have a manager or players this year?

THREAD OF THE YEAR. :good:

Guess it shows the level of unease amongst people. There is something that just isn't sitting right with be at the moment about the whole thing.

Also...

Happy New Year! :D

faceoff
01/01/2013, 11:45 AM
rumor has it the club are in talks with someone else in the UK now, all to be revealed by the weekend, also heard club not too bothered about signing players until then as UK players are probably cheaper than loi players are, i wouldn't be too sure about this plan but hopefully im proved wrong,

They have been in talks for 7 or 8 weeks now,IMO they are going down the wrong road because they cannot afford managers from UK or players,that's obvious,it is a bit of a joke now at this stage,players are going to look elsewhere,and El-petro I'm afraid ill have to agree with you,

delboyderis
01/01/2013, 2:06 PM
Its very dissapointing that limerick havent named a manager as of yet.pre-season training is near and not many players signed for the new season.its seems to be top secret who is line for the managers job.all we can do is hope it happens soon.

fieldofmarkets
01/01/2013, 2:10 PM
Not too worried. There was never going to be an announcement over the holiday period and we have a couple weeks yet before I would start to consider it a big problem. None of our better players have gone anywhere else yet and they should all be getting in shape by themselves. We are headed to the premier and a season in a great stadium. Pat scully is not the manager so for some we are better already. Its been a long time since things looked this good for us. Happy New Year!

delboyderis
01/01/2013, 2:27 PM
God only knows whats happening?they would want to get a move on or else it will be a disaster before the season even starts.

Jofspring
01/01/2013, 3:52 PM
Not too worried. There was never going to be an announcement over the holiday period and we have a couple weeks yet before I would start to consider it a big problem. None of our better players have gone anywhere else yet and they should all be getting in shape by themselves. We are headed to the premier and a season in a great stadium. Pat scully is not the manager so for some we are better already. Its been a long time since things looked this good for us. Happy New Year!

Once it's sorted before pre-season it should be fine. If it comes to getting someone to temporarily take pre-season it sends out the wrong signs to perspective players and last seasons ones.

Happy New Year lads. Here's to a hopefully successful one back in the premier.

gael353
01/01/2013, 5:20 PM
Not too worried. There was never going to be an announcement over the holiday period and we have a couple weeks yet before I would start to consider it a big problem. None of our better players have gone anywhere else yet and they should all be getting in shape by themselves. We are headed to the premier and a season in a great stadium. Pat scully is not the manager so for some we are better already. Its been a long time since things looked this good for us. Happy New Year!

Heres a person who got out into the fresh air over the christmas. Totally correct in everything he says. Limerick never ever do anything before christmas so how this one is any differant is beond me. Just a hint to the way the club is going. Limerick have replaced a kick start two coach with a pro level coach. And thats before the new manager comes in. We shall be fine and expect action this week as off field staff will be back to work.
Happy New year everyone

CraftyToePoke
01/01/2013, 6:06 PM
I'm not too concerned either, I think some on here are being a bit over critical and I expect if the club makes an announcement in plenty time to give a decent account of ourselves in our first season back up top. That's all that's required here remember. As someone who has followed the club since the late 80's, I find some of the comment on this thread a bit harsh over the last days, no, its not ideal, but overall the club is strong and getting stronger than it has been in a generation and all credit to those involved. I have every faith this will be dealt with in a way which continues that progress.

Happy New Year also, to all of you.

kingpin4
01/01/2013, 9:19 PM
Heres a person who got out into the fresh air over the christmas. Totally correct in everything he says. Limerick never ever do anything before christmas so how this one is any differant is beond me. Just a hint to the way the club is going. Limerick have replaced a kick start two coach with a pro level coach. And thats before the new manager comes in. We shall be fine and expect action this week as off field staff will be back to work.
Happy New year everyone

About the kick start two & pro level coach thing. The way I look at it is, they replaced a league winner who obviously has a good working relationship with players, with a coach who has a poor record and has been described by people as a poor man manager. Coaching badges don't mean much to be fair.

Just cos Scully is gone doesn't mean the club are in a stronger position. Right now, it's in a weaker position than it was 3 months ago with pre season supposedly starting next week and 6 players signed...so you can see why there is so much negativity there.

Sea Bird
02/01/2013, 12:08 AM
what a statement kingpin :) firstly the kick start two lad was not a coach he was a goafer for scully and how you can say a pro licence replacing him isnt a positive move is some statement because badges dont really matter all over the world if you dont have em you cant coach or manage so everyone is wrong??? beckham or scholes cant manage or coach without them.. also the man with the poor record has never seen a budget or worked in a professional environment with limerick as it was allways a shambles budget wise groundwise and playerwise compared to the way it is now.. give the man a chance he is a gifted coach and good players will respond to that including the kids coming up thru the acadamy.. lets just hope we get a proper gaffer that wants it on the deck and get the best out of gamble bradley gaffney and co

El-Pietro
02/01/2013, 7:30 AM
Are you somehow trying to imply that because the Markets Field didn't come off the club wont have a manager or players this year?

THREAD OF THE YEAR. :good:
nah, just trying to show the similarity in the situations. Your club at the moment doesn't do deadlines very well.

faceoff
02/01/2013, 10:49 AM
nah, just trying to show the similarity in the situations. Your club at the moment doesn't do deadlines very well.

Our club at the moment is a shambles,and getting worse by the day,FACT.how did these talks with the other English manager get on by the way??blueblood..

faceoff
02/01/2013, 10:52 AM
what a statement kingpin :) firstly the kick start two lad was not a coach he was a goafer for scully and how you can say a pro licence replacing him isnt a positive move is some statement because badges dont really matter all over the world if you dont have em you cant coach or manage so everyone is wrong??? beckham or scholes cant manage or coach without them.. also the man with the poor record has never seen a budget or worked in a professional environment with limerick as it was allways a shambles budget wise groundwise and playerwise compared to the way it is now.. give the man a chance he is a gifted coach and good players will respond to that including the kids coming up thru the acadamy.. lets just hope we get a proper gaffer that wants it on the deck and get the best out of gamble bradley gaffney and co

At least someone talking sense.

delboyderis
02/01/2013, 11:35 AM
its not about being critical its about running things properly.for the last month or more we have been fed snippets of news about phil brown getting the job and peter taylor etc.still no news on the official website.for everyone involved from supporters to club officials and players,things should be sorted out asap.pre-season is already here and from what i have heard not many players signed up for the new season.i heard recently that brian o callaghan had re-signed which isnt much to shout about and he wasnt even up to first division standards and was unlucky with injury.limerick needs a manager soon and try and get a few experienced players signed up, if he will be allowed to sign guys.the under 19 players wont be enough to help the cause.it would be a positive thing for the club if it were sorted soon and try encourage some new support to the club.its not professional to take so long in getting a manager.didnt matter whether it was christmas holidays or any other excuse.get it sorted soon.

Jofspring
02/01/2013, 11:49 AM
Our club at the moment is a shambles,and getting worse by the day,FACT.how did these talks with the other English manager get on by the way??blueblood..


At least someone talking sense.

Kind of contradicting yourself there. In one post you are saying the club is a shambles and getting worse by the day and the other you are saying sea bird is talking sense saying getting in a pro license coach and hopefully a manager over him is a good idea and to give them a chance.

faceoff
02/01/2013, 2:18 PM
Kind of contradicting yourself there. In one post you are saying the club is a shambles and getting worse by the day and the other you are saying sea bird is talking sense saying getting in a pro license coach and hopefully a manager over him is a good idea and to give them a chance.

What I meant when I said he was talking sense was getting Mike Kerley back in there,and I will stand over it all day that we are in a shambles at the moment,would you not agree??

Jofspring
02/01/2013, 2:44 PM
What I meant when I said he was talking sense was getting Mike Kerley back in there,and I will stand over it all day that we are in a shambles at the moment,would you not agree??

No not till we find out what is actually going on. Everything at the moment is speculation. Only a week ago people thought Kilbane was 100% in the job now no one knows the story. We have secured Thomond park which was huge as without it we could not play premier football. If the club was shambles then we would not have any management in place and not have a ground to play in next year. Meeting licensing requirements is more important initially than the manager.

NeverFeltBetter
02/01/2013, 2:57 PM
I wouldn't say this is some kind of omni-shambles just yet, I'm just more concerned with the lack of information. I too had heard that Kilbane was close to a deal, and I wonder what/if something has happened there.

kingpin4
02/01/2013, 3:33 PM
what a statement kingpin :) firstly the kick start two lad was not a coach he was a goafer for scully and how you can say a pro licence replacing him isnt a positive move is some statement because badges dont really matter all over the world if you dont have em you cant coach or manage so everyone is wrong??? beckham or scholes cant manage or coach without them.. also the man with the poor record has never seen a budget or worked in a professional environment with limerick as it was allways a shambles budget wise groundwise and playerwise compared to the way it is now.. give the man a chance he is a gifted coach and good players will respond to that including the kids coming up thru the acadamy.. lets just hope we get a proper gaffer that wants it on the deck and get the best out of gamble bradley gaffney and co

Just because you have badges, it doesn't make you a good coach. Which is my point, if you can say 1 guy is a better coach than the other guy because he has more badges, then you have amazing powers of deduction. Unless you've played under both, you or I can't tell who is a better coach, which is why I said about Kerleys record...if you think he's a better coach because he has gone further with badges, then I think he's a worse coach because he has nothing to his name. If he was "gifted" as you said, you'd imagine Athlone or Waterford would have done better.

Budgets play a part, but just because there wasn't a great budget there doesn't mean things shouldn't have gone better. Mourinho won a champions league with Porto from having an organised and disciplined team. 2 sides to every coin. If he is gifted like you said then I'm sure people will respond to it...if he's a poor man manager then I'm sure people won't respond to him.

Treaty Gooner
02/01/2013, 4:56 PM
Didn't every squad he's been in charge of as Limerick boss respond to him? We had some of our best results and performances with him in charge and a very young squad. Don't think you can question that side of his record.
Comparisons with Mourinho are beyond ridiculous.

kingpin4
02/01/2013, 5:40 PM
Didn't every squad he's been in charge of as Limerick boss respond to him? We had some of our best results and performances with him in charge and a very young squad. Don't think you can question that side of his record.
Comparisons with Mourinho are beyond ridiculous.

With zero results!
I know it's ridiculous...but so is saying someone is a better coach because they have more badges.