Cork AUL 2012/13

[1fortheTeam]

Oh watch later the Douglas hater coming on blowing his trumpet.
Ya I agree they should give killumney a good game in the finalim here now yes i hope kilumney blow them away by half time lol .

[Leftside]

I heard today that Killumney are going to be deducted points in the league for playing a player who wasn't signed 14 days before their cup game against Clonmel. Anyone know if there's any truth in that? That was ages ago and can't see it being fair if they are to be deducted points

Dont think they can be docked league points for a cup error. They may be fined alright but can't see points being deducted.

[Just my opinion]

Ya that's what I was thinking but the lad who told me was convinced.

[Blackandwhite]

im here now yes i hope kilumney blow them away by half time lol .

Ya thought you would say something stupid alright. Just like they blew ur leeview away in the aoh couple weeks ago. If blarney st had any sense they wouldn't give u any position in their club.

[1fortheTeam]

Ya thought you would say something stupid alright. Just like they blew ur leeview away in the aoh couple weeks ago. If blarney st had any sense they wouldn't give u any position in their club.you and 3 others give me so much attention i know im driving you crazy take a panadol each and you should be fine i was going to go off here but il stay now .338 views to my page and you head it.

[Kearney]

Ye are right. Killumney are being deducted for playing an “illegal" player against Castleview. The player in question is Dave Kenny, the same player called in by the AUL before Christmas to be investigated. So the AUL called in a player that wasn't signed but said nothing. Then when he came on against Castleview the league did a “random" check on the match card and informed us that he wasn't signed. He didn't sign the main form as he was on holidays but signed an individual one which was sent to the league. A form they claim not to have received. Just find the whole thing a bit strange. As soon as he was called in and the league knew he wasn't signed shouldn't they have told us? Just to state that he has played with us the for the last 3 seasons and got the winner in the AOH final last year. So we weren't exactly hiding this “illegal" player of ours. Anyways it is done now. What small chance we had of a title push are now well over and we look forward to the AOH final now.

[Take-a-bow]

Ye are right. Killumney are being deducted for playing an “illegal" player against Castleview. The player in question is Dave Kenny, the same player called in by the AUL before Christmas to be investigated. So the AUL called in a player that wasn't signed but said nothing. Then when he came on against Castleview the league did a “random" check on the match card and informed us that he wasn't signed. He didn't sign the main form as he was on holidays but signed an individual one which was sent to the league. A form they claim not to have received. Just find the whole thing a bit strange. As soon as he was called in and the league knew he wasn't signed shouldn't they have told us? Just to state that he has played with us the for the last 3 seasons and got the winner in the AOH final last year. So we weren't exactly hiding this “illegal" player of ours. Anyways it is done now. What small chance we had of a title push are now well over and we look forward to the AOH final now.

That's harsh on killumney from reading this donnie.do ye know how much points deduction by any chance?

[Kearney]

Sorry was actually replying to the original post. 3 points

[Take-a-bow]

Sorry was actually replying to the original post. 3 points

3points surely won't knock ye off a chance of winning the league,plenty games still to go for killumney.

[littleman]

Considering what goes on week in week out its a petty way to take 3 points of a team.

[robot]

That shouldnt happen to kilumney can ye not appeal it.we had same thing this year with a player who only played with us for years but with 3 changes in management at start of year never signed.common sense doesnt come into rules unfortunately.

[donaldihno]

Harsh on Kilumney..very petty from aul..common sense must come into play sometimes

[Leftside]

How do the AUL decided the punishment for illegal players. Just looking at the tables now we've all different symbols next to different teams for illegal players. How do they decide that Bweeng get deducted 1 point "for playing an illegal player" and why Ballinhassig get deducted 3 "for playing an illegal player"??

[Just my opinion]

Bweeng obviously drew the game and ballinhassig won their game I'd say. Richmond were thrown outta the St Michaels Cup for a similar thing to Kilumney. They forgot to sign their keeper who has played with them for a few years. It's the new Assistant Registrar is going through match cards and reg forms with a fine tooth comb

[well past it]

Hey lads just a note from the hall we re delighted to have reached the AOH final professional job done last night its great for the club to be back in the final last won by the hall in 86 i think its been a tough enough season up in premier a, a lot of things have gone against us losing some quality players like deano great to hear he's terrifying defences up prem best of luck to him for the remainder of the season, injuries etc true all clubs face the face these battles but would like to thank all involved for pulling together when times were tough and we have some reward with a trip to the cross we ll be under no illusions about the task facing us quality side kilummney we know that from 3 yrs ago when they pipped us to the div 1 title great hard fair battles with them that yr and im sure the final will be the same they ve obviously added more quality so theyll be big favourites but its cup football so we r in with a chance. To be honest its games like that we all want to play in. We'll take confidence from big performances in some of our cup games like away to coachfoard home to knockavilla and try learn from our poor league form of late But first and for most we ll be looking to pick up the nessecary league points in the nxt few wks to ensure our survival in prem A which has been one tough league to compete in and best of luck to all involved for top spot in the run in. As for i for although ur opinion interesting as it may be at times we aint too concerned with it we ve more important things to focus on :)

[Kearney]

[QUOTE=redandwhite;1680046]If he played last three years wit ye why wasn't he signed on original form in aug?[/QUOTE

He was away when main form was filled out. Also he was injured up until Christmas so filled out individual one.

[thebooboys]

[QUOTE=redandwhite;1680046]If he played last three years wit ye why wasn't he signed on original form in aug?[/QUOTE

He was away when main form was filled out. Also he was injured up until Christmas so filled out individual one.

Anything sent in by clubs should always be done by registered post. "Clerical errors" by that organisation inevitable

[Radiostar]

Was it not all individual forms this year? Not a nice thing to happen when points are deducted for a genuine error.
I agree with leftside too, the punishment for illegal players is confusing, it should be the one punishment no matter what, there was a situation last season in the same division where one team was given a 3 nil win for a game they lost to a team with an illegal player and the other instance a team were deducted 3 points for having an illegal player but the other team were not awarded a 3 nil win, the reason which was given was that one club put in the complaint, the other didn't, should that even matter???

[Tekkers]

Ye are right. Killumney are being deducted for playing an “illegal" player against Castleview. The player in question is Dave Kenny, the same player called in by the AUL before Christmas to be investigated. So the AUL called in a player that wasn't signed but said nothing. Then when he came on against Castleview the league did a “random" check on the match card and informed us that he wasn't signed. He didn't sign the main form as he was on holidays but signed an individual one which was sent to the league. A form they claim not to have received. Just find the whole thing a bit strange. As soon as he was called in and the league knew he wasn't signed shouldn't they have told us? Just to state that he has played with us the for the last 3 seasons and got the winner in the AOH final last year. So we weren't exactly hiding this “illegal" player of ours. Anyways it is done now. What small chance we had of a title push are now well over and we look forward to the AOH final now.

Can't believe that Donnie very harsh on ye but I don't think it rules ye out of the league ye are more than capable of doing it!!

[schoolboygodno9]

Bweeng obviously drew the game and ballinhassig won their game I'd say. Richmond were thrown outta the St Michaels Cup for a similar thing to Kilumney. They forgot to sign their keeper who has played with them for a few years. It's the new Assistant Registrar is going through match cards and reg forms with a fine tooth comb

We were deducted that point for player who signed an individual form that was posted then after his sixth game for us we were informed that he wasnt signed and they hadnt recieved it they tried to deduct us all the points we said we would be contacting a solicitor then we were told just to pay 250 and have a point deducted we said we wanted to appeal that and then were informed that just take the punishment because under no circumstances would we win the appeal

[1fortheTeam]

Can't believe that Donnie very harsh on ye but I don't think it rules ye out of the league ye are more than capable of doing it!!your right tekkers and this is bad for the aul you have a club like kilumney in the hunt for the title playing the right way and some of the best players in cork and their youths on a high as well .we need our big clubs like them i hope it not going to be an anybody but kilumney thing .that day v clonmel they were outstanding i watched then v pearse last week and thought they were one of the teams to beat.lots of decent football people out there it takes the gloss off it who ever wins it after this.and of course the aul dont want to look mugs to the fai if it did happen that day on a lighter note it didnt help that the lad in question was man of the match.

[tricksey]

That's very harsh lads and It's not like killumney went out played 2r3 illegal players under different name and got caught ! It was a simple mistake like I think the aul should have a look at thus again. In all fairness the funny part of this is it probably said Dave kenny on the match card so it's not like killumney were trying to hide him or anything common sense the aul should have

[Horse24]

Oh watch later the Douglas hater coming on blowing his trumpet.
Ya I agree they should give killumney a good game in the final

Shows why we love football. Differing opinions. heard the match was a shocker!

[Horse24]

Donnie, no Master form this year. All individual forms.

To be fair to the registrar, he sends out a list of signed players as soon as you add one. Your sec should have been looking for it or check the list. Is it his son is the illegal player?
No blame on AUL for this one.

Same for ye at Bweeng. Check your list and he isnt on it. Ye were lucky, they could have clung ye for the six games.

If we want proof for ourselves, we just have to register the letters. Remember Castleview got caught because the letter got stuck in the machine in An Post, and therefore had no postmark , just a tick.

The points deductions is a strange one - I think it should be 3 points to the legal team in the game so be that minus 1 or whatever. If the losing team play illegal, take 3 points from them. Hang a suspended sentence over them for 3 - 5 years. Do it again in that time and its 6 points etc. We will get clarification at the AGM.

[Horse24]

Was he down as a different name in the AOH final?

[tricksey]

Was he down as a different name in the AOH final?

Coachford killumney tommorrow night surely the pick of the games will coachford play on the top pitch or bring killumney down the bottom bitch to try stop there football ?

[killer"B"]

like to say congrats to the glen B team on officially winning 3A title over the weekend 9 points clear 3games left and and the better head to head over leeview well done lads its only onwards and upwards for that mighty team of yer"s all the best nxt season in div 2

[Kearney]

Was he down as a different name in the AOH final?

I don't follow you. A different name in the AOH? His name is dave Kenny, his name was down for the final & the castleview game. Thats the thing. He was illegal because he wasn't signed apparently not that we played someone else.

[Kearney]

Donnie, no Master form this year. All individual forms.

To be fair to the registrar, he sends out a list of signed players as soon as you add one. Your sec should have been looking for it or check the list. Is it his son is the illegal player?
No blame on AUL for this one.

Same for ye at Bweeng. Check your list and he isnt on it. Ye were lucky, they could have clung ye for the six games.

If we want proof for ourselves, we just have to register the letters. Remember Castleview got caught because the letter got stuck in the machine in An Post, and therefore had no postmark , just a tick.

The points deductions is a strange one - I think it should be 3 points to the legal team in the game so be that minus 1 or whatever. If the losing team play illegal, take 3 points from them. Hang a suspended sentence over them for 3 - 5 years. Do it again in that time and its 6 points etc. We will get clarification at the AGM.

Horse you are always one to answer honestly so tell me this. This player was called in to be investigated by the AUL after the clonmel game. Are you telling me that they didn't know he wasn't signed & as soon as he played against castleview there wad a random check on the match card & we got “caught". The fact is this. The AUL were annoyed they couldn't punish us over the fai game. The fai didn't want to bring it further & neither did clonmel. So they punished us the best way they could. They took 3 points off us for playing an illegal player. I just find the whole thing baffling to be honest. But its done now. I have said my piece on it. Dont agree with it but what can we do.

[Just my opinion]

Ya Donnie they should have told ye when ye went in after the Clonmel game. I think its very harsh. I think club secretary's are gonna have to keep a very close eye on what forms are "received" by AUL from next season on. Or as has already been stated use registered post

[Sjb101]

like to say congrats to the glen B team on officially winning 3A title over the weekend 9 points clear 3games left and and the better head to head over leeview well done lads its only onwards and upwards for that mighty team of yer"s all the best nxt season in div 2

+1 very good side.

Having said that....if they hadn't won the div with that team then sum thing badly wrong! A lot of players well below their true level IMO. If they stay together they cud win a lot more.

[killer"B"]

+1 very good side.

Having said that....if they hadn't won the div with that team then sum thing badly wrong! A lot of players well below their true level IMO. If they stay together they cud win a lot more.
spot on sbj another call for off ye to over the weekend ?!?!?

[our_ball_ref]

Because that was his first league game and we were made aware of it before the next game and he signed then, its a disgrace and the AUL prove once again how ridiculous the whole lot of em are, if someone is doing well they tend not to like it. They will be sorry when everyone wants no more to do with them an players start leaving to play MSL and MJL

[overthehill]

Donnie, are you saying that the AUL are vindictive? surely not! Had a few strange decisions from them over the years myself and sometimes you feel they make up the rules as they go along. Wasnt the problem with the Clonmel game that the player in question had his name on the card but he wasnt playing? A player that was signed within the 14 day rule played illegally under his name? Common knowledge but i agree it should have nothing to do with the League points. Thats a shocking decision imo.

[1fortheTeam]

Horse you are always one to answer honestly so tell me this. This player was called in to be investigated by the AUL after the clonmel game. Are you telling me that they didn't know he wasn't signed & as soon as he played against castleview there wad a random check on the match card & we got “caught". The fact is this. The AUL were annoyed they couldn't punish us over the fai game. The fai didn't want to bring it further & neither did clonmel. So they punished us the best way they could. They took 3 points off us for playing an illegal player. I just find the whole thing baffling to be honest. But its done now. I have said my piece on it. Dont agree with it but what can we do.i knew it was somthing like that .uproar over ref and prob letters of complaint then some guy on here from clonmel blowing. aul didnt like being made to look like mugs in fronts of fai and now our race for prem is tarnished kilumney will bounce back .

[tricksey]

Il give 1 incident on how different msl is to aul when castleview season in the msl finished I signed for Cobh (summer soccer) then signed back from Cobh when castlview started back after 4 games the msl asked castleview where s this players registration and they said we sent it in when he came back with the transfer form Cobh confirmed it had been signed!
Msl just said they never received it but used there heads and said no problom and just registered me again why didn't aul just do this instead of docking killumney points

[Sjb101]

spot on sbj another call for off ye to over the weekend ?!?!?

Not us this time!

Pitch was grand....Knocknaheeny couldn't field. Not sure why but bit of a split in club apparently.

dunno what that means for the game or table if they fold???

[Tekkers]

Not us this time!

Pitch was grand....Knocknaheeny couldn't field. Not sure why but bit of a split in club apparently.

dunno what that means for the game or table if they fold???

If they fold and have played more than 50% of there games then the results for the games they have played will stand and all teams left that they have not played yet will be awarded a 3-0 win.

[killer"B"]

If they fold and have played more than 50% of there games then the results for the games they have played will stand and all teams left that they have not played yet will be awarded a 3-0 win.
ya sure there is only 3 or 4 games left for most teams barr boscos !! and did they say they could not field a team ?!?!?

[Radiostar]

like to say congrats to the glen B team on officially winning 3A title over the weekend 9 points clear 3games left and and the better head to head over leeview well done lads its only onwards and upwards for that mighty team of yer"s all the best nxt season in div 2
They still need 1 point Killer, or for yourselves or Boscos to drop points in any of your remaining games, head to head doesn't come into deciding any league.

[oldlegs]

Theirs only one problem with common sense and that's it's not common :)

[killer"B"]

They still need 1 point Killer, or for yourselves or Boscos to drop points in any of your remaining games, head to head doesn't come into deciding any league.
my bad i didnt know i tought it did i know goals dont count good man for seein that error radio :cool:

[killer"B"]

Not us this time!

Pitch was grand....Knocknaheeny couldn't field. Not sure why but bit of a split in club apparently.

dunno what that means for the game or table if they fold???
i hear tower are stuggling to put a team Together too !

[Sjb101]

ya sure there is only 3 or 4 games left for most teams barr boscos !! and did they say they could not field a team ?!?!?

that was why I heard the game was called off.

[Sjb101]

i hear tower are stuggling to put a team Together too !

shame, they had the makings of a decent team.

[killer"B"]

shame, they had the makings of a decent team.
yup they had once fella in centre midfield great player broke our hearts til he got send off i think he on the cork aul panel !?!?!

[robot]

How have macroom jumped ahead of us when they havent played according to all results on website.?

[1fortheTeam]

How have macroom jumped ahead of us when they havent played according to all results on website.?i think the mighty castleview couldnt get a team together this league is becoming a joke to be honest .aul go after a club like kilumney and this goes on .

[sharpshooter]

i think the mighty castleview couldnt get a team together this league is becoming a joke to be honest .aul go after a club like kilumney and this goes on .
Think the macroom castleview game was off cause castleview ad a team playing in the national cup so I've been told.

[Just my opinion]

AUL appear to have gone after a few teams 1for. Can't be accused on that front.