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DolansWaistcoat
05/08/2004, 10:31 AM
Well done Shels,great result and well deserved.I was shouting like a lunatic when the first goal went in,delighted. :)
Fair_play_boy
05/08/2004, 10:39 AM
so you're pleased to see shels get two big pay days and by ollie byrnes own omission this morning on des cahill's sports report they're looking to netc.€450k from depor match
the eL is over as a competition for the next 5yrs minimum :mad:
Yeah, now they can afford to buy a few decent fans!
Hecko
05/08/2004, 11:35 AM
Don't know how people can see it as a bad thing that $hels have gone thru...
If they are going to be in a dominant position then it just sets the standard higher for City, Bohs and others to get to - and we should realise that with proper investment and management we can.
Surely it's better for eth long-term future of the league that we're trying to be competitive with a team in the third round of eth CL than being happy that a few clubs are at the same standard getting knocked out in the first round every year.
The bottom line is that IF we win the league this year or next year or the year after, we will now be going in with a real hope of trying to get to the Third Round or even Group Stage - and for the first time there are financial backers out there that will be willing to support an eL team trying to do so.
...And while I would have preferred it to be any other team than $hels, eth fixture pile-up could even up the league a bit too...
Brits on Sky.
The Brits were on Sky last night alright, Sky Sports News had a good report on the Shels game!
Shelsman
05/08/2004, 12:23 PM
It's not "stone-age" or "begrudging" to not want $h£l$ to get through. That club has done NOTHING for this league over the years except cause it hassle and grief. On the one hand I'm happy to see an Irish, (well really Little Britain), side do well, but they are also rivals to our club and we don't want to fall any further behnd them. Lets be honest, this could mean total domination of the league by the one club which doesn't give a f*ck about the league.
What the begrudgers seem to be thinking is that this is taking away from the other clubs, all it means is that Shels have jumped ahead ( and I would be glad to see any eL club do this ). It doesn't mean that other clubs have suddenly got poorer or weaker, they are exactly the same they were a few days ago.
As for Shels being selfish, I'm not a fan of Ollie Byrne's carry on over the last few years ( arguing over the fine print in the rulebook -except for the registration row ) but that doesn't mean the whole club is bad. I think that other clubs will raise their standards even more now ( but let's hope they don't gamble / overspend in doing so and end up in debt ).
The fact that so many fans from different clubs were there to support an Irish team says it all.
Shelsman
05/08/2004, 12:24 PM
...And while I would have preferred it to be any other team than $hels, eth fixture pile-up could even up the league a bit too...
Would you REALLY want to see Dublin City or UCD representing us in the Champions League rather than Shels????
Schumi
05/08/2004, 12:26 PM
Would you REALLY want to see ...UCD representing us in the Champions League rather than Shels????
Yes... :)
namloc
05/08/2004, 12:33 PM
Agree hecko. Shels have really set the standard for the like of City and Bohs and the rest to follow them. It's now time for City to step up and show the rest of the eL that we can be as good as Shels. There's too many "ifs" and "maybes" and blaming linesmen with City. Shels have taken the lead, it's time for City to follow.
There's too many "ifs" and "maybes" and blaming linesmen with City.
And there's none of that with Shels I suppose. :rolleyes:
Must have been another reason why Ollie Byrne was on the pitch chasing the ref up in Drogheda a few weeks ago so!
namloc
05/08/2004, 12:59 PM
And there's none of that with Shels I suppose.
Who said there wasn't?? You should try reading posts once in a while.
What the begrudgers seem to be thinking is that this is taking away from the other clubs, all it means is that Shels have jumped ahead
The fact that so many fans from different clubs were there to support an Irish team says it all.1. Its not begrudging to not want success for a rival....:rolleyes:
2. Many, many fans are happy to support other eL clubs in Europe. On the whole I think its positive that $h£l$ have got through, extremely dissappointing that Bohs and LTC performed so badly, and great that City did so well.
3. Its only natural that some fans are worried about the possible consequences for their club of one club getting a lot of money, and more importantly, media attention, which could mean that the little money that is there could go towards them. ( I actually think clubs could use the heightened attention for their own benefit)
They've switched the deportivo match to Lansdowne it seems
namloc
05/08/2004, 1:30 PM
They've switched the deportivo match to Lansdowne it seems
After the money so i guess.
and they want the first leg at home...............talk about conceeding the tie
ccfcman
05/08/2004, 2:22 PM
lansdowne isnt the great idea it sounds to be as ollie said today there are extra costs,rent,cleaning,stewarding :rolleyes: and insurance,also they will be playing on a bigger pitch which will play into depor's hands.on top of that any atmosphere associated with tolka dump from last week will dwindle due to the size of lansdowne
financially maybe a good idea but and this is a big but ,if they are still in the tie for the second leg they might throw away the tie!remember the wembley fiasco with arsenal :o
thecorner
05/08/2004, 2:44 PM
looks like shels arent even gonna try to give deoportivo a game
now,if it was city,tight pitch,crowd on top of them
go for it
3. Its only natural that some fans are worried about the possible consequences for their club of one club getting a lot of money, and more importantly, media attention, which could mean that the little money that is there could go towards them. ( I actually think clubs could use the heightened attention for their own benefit)
This is the key issue for me. The success of Rangers & Celtic and Rosenberg has not necessarily filtered down to other teams in their leagues. I don't think City's business brigade is going to match TV and Euro money that Shels are going to rake in. We can aspire to match them all we like, but they have a head start that they won't relinquish to easily.
Sure it's great for Shels, good for Ireland's profile, but for CCFC and their ambitions to win the league it sucks.
and they want the first leg at home...............talk about conceeding the tie
oh how surprising. I'll congratualte shels for what they did last night, they raised the bar for eL teams competeing in Europe. Well done to them, but I certainly won' be cheering them on. For a club that is so self-important and acts on its on whims (or that of its chief exec) to the detriment of the rest of the league so often, its a bit rich for them to come on expecting plaudits. The idea of we're all in it together is fine up to a point, but when it comes to a club raking in cash that will set them light years ahead, it goes out the window. look after your own club first, and then think about the league as a whole- thats what shels do
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