Eóin Doyle

[nigel-harps1954]

Adam Rooney's 20 goals this season for Aberdeen are testament to the fact that it's a higher level, for sure. Celtic have their draw but the SPL is in transition (if the decline is over) and Doyle is the wrong side of, say, 25 for that.


It shows just how poor the rest of the SPL is when probably the worst Celtic team in 20 years are still sitting pretty at the top of the table.

[Olé Olé]

It shows just how poor the rest of the SPL is when probably the worst Celtic team in 20 years are still sitting pretty at the top of the table.

Exactly. The plight of Hearts, Hibs and Rangers is too much for that league. Rooney has an immense tally and one he couldn't replicate in the Championship or League 1.

http://www.football365.com/transfer-centre/9685277/Transfer-Window-Peter-Beagrie-looks-at-the-strikers-attracting-attention-in-the-Football-League

Peter Beagrie has his say on Doyle:
"After an incredible season last year there were questions whether Doyle would be able to replicate his goal-scoring exploits. The answer has been a resounding yes.

His work-rate is immense and he has got everything, including a real hunger and desire. While not the biggest, he is wiry, lean and keen and never put off. It is not a case of centre-halves saying early in the game ‘I am going to leave a bit on him, put him on his backside’, he just jumps up, dusts himself down and goes again.

He has been terrific for Chesterfield, his strengths really are his work-rate, his self-belief and attitude, which are spot on. You can see he genuinely loves playing football and it oozes out of him. If his team-mates continue to give him a supply line then he could shoot them into the play-offs, which would be a remarkable achievement."

You'll see that article carries a very complimentary tone for all of the players in question and there's more reference to work-rate and attitude than footballing ability. Although he does state "he has got everything" and Doyle's record this season shows he can finish.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

He's not just getting tap ins either. He is scoring some lovely goals. He has the technique to step up to the Championship.

Mooney is another lad who only seems to score great goals.

Paddy Madden would probably be pushing him (Doyle) in terms of goals scored but he's playing on the wing for Scunthorpe.

[nigel-harps1954]

He's not just getting tap ins either. He is scoring some lovely goals. He has the technique to step up to the Championship.

Mooney is another lad who only seems to score great goals.

Paddy Madden would probably be pushing him (Doyle) in terms of goals scored but he's playing on the wing for Scunthorpe.

Doyle is a much better player than Madden in my opinion.

[Charlie Darwin]

I wouldn't say much better. Madden is younger and more talented for me but question marks over his attitude, which doesn't apply to Doyle.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Sheffield United favorites for his signature. Preston & New York City also linked.

Very underwhelming.

[Olé Olé]

http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/former-sligo-rovers-striker-eoin-5077104

Couldn't help but bag another today. Linked above with New York City which, from a personal perspective anyway,, wouldn't be a bad move at all, would it? All depends on what level Doyle envisages himself reaching- PL? Championship? Or is League 1 dominance his ceiling in which case a life in NY would become all the more attractive?

I'd like to see him move to the Championship. See if he can sustain his current hot streak at that level and push for the PL if he does.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/in-demand-eoin-doyle-would-jump-at-the-chance-of-joining-frank-lampard-in-new-york-city-30953443.html

He would jump at the chance to move to New York City but they have to increase their offer by 50%.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

TBH I think he should stay at Chesterfield until the end of the season, unless a decent Championship team comes in with a concrete offer.

At this rate, he is going to break goalscoring records for League One and could go up with Chesterfield in any event.

He will be in a stronger position to get the best possible move and the best possible financial security; a stronger bargaining position.

Chesterfield would also be more malleable in the summer than they are now.

Right now, stronger Championship teams are reluctant to make a move because it is a one month window as opposed to a four month window. If he stays fit and keeps scoring goals in a promotion chasing side, he could have his pick of teams to choose from. As it stands, Rotherham are the only Championship side to make a concrete offer, while a couple other League One teams - no stronger placed in the league than Chesterfield - have also made significant strides towards getting his signature. If it goes tits up in New York, all the progress he has made in Britain over the last four years could come undone - and in any event, once you go over there it is out of sight, out of mind.

I think he should sit on it.

[tricky_colour]

Derby and Cardiff mention as interested here

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Host-clubs-bombard-Chesterfield-Bristol-City/story-25934631-detail/story.html


(http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Host-clubs-bombard-Chesterfield-Bristol-City/story-25934631-detail/story.html)
LEAGUE One outfit Chesterfield have received inquiries from Derby, Cardiff, Sheffield United and Rotherham for in-form striker Eoin Doyle.

The 26-year-old, who has netted 24 goals in all competitions this season, was identified as target of Bristol City (http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/bristolcity)back in November, along with Freddie Sears who has since moved on to Championship high-flyers Ipswich.
Doyle netted two goals in his side's 3-0 win over Crawley last night, which moved them up to fifth in the table.
The Irishman has scored 34 goals since joining from Hibernian in 2013 and The Spireites currently value him between £1million and £2million. They are expecting at least one club to meet their asking price with as many as nine sides monitoring the forward.


£2 for 20+ goals seems pretty cheap.

[tetsujin1979]

Derby and Cardiff mention as interested here

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Host-clubs-bombard-Chesterfield-Bristol-City/story-25934631-detail/story.html


(http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Host-clubs-bombard-Chesterfield-Bristol-City/story-25934631-detail/story.html)

£2 for 20+ goals seems pretty cheap.

Last season's League One top scorer was Sam Baldock, with 24 goals. He subsequently moved to Brighton for a fee reported to be around £2m and has scored twice this season
Second top scorer was Britt Assombalonga with 23 goals, he moved to Forest for £5m and has 14 goals in 25 appearances for Forest and is the third top scorer in the division
Next two were Kieran Agard and Callum Wilson who both finished on 21 goals, and moved for £750,000 and £3m, respectively. Agard has seven goals, Wilson has 12.
Based on all that, £2m is a little below what you would expect for Doyle alright, but not by much. £3m is probably closer to his value.

[tricky_colour]

Last season's League One top scorer was Sam Baldock, with 24 goals. He subsequently moved to Brighton for a fee reported to be around £2m and has scored twice this season
Second top scorer was Britt Assombalonga with 23 goals, he moved to Forest for £5m and has 14 goals in 25 appearances for Forest and is the third top scorer in the division
Next two were Kieran Agard and Callum Wilson who both finished on 21 goals, and moved for £750,000 and £3m, respectively. Agard has seven goals, Wilson has 12.
Based on all that, £2m is a little below what you would expect for Doyle alright, but not by much. £3m is probably closer to his value.

Not sure what you point is with Callum Wilson 15 in 32 in the Championship which is almost the same strike rate as his 22 in 42 in League 1.

0.523 v 0.46 not much different, so it seem a player can go up a division with little drop in strike rate.
How much would a 20 goal a season man be in the Premiership?
£20 million+ ?

I suspect Baldock is being played out of position.

Walters seem to be getting the goals now he is playing centrally

[Olé Olé]

Last season's League One top scorer was Sam Baldock, with 24 goals. He subsequently moved to Brighton for a fee reported to be around £2m and has scored twice this season
Second top scorer was Britt Assombalonga with 23 goals, he moved to Forest for £5m and has 14 goals in 25 appearances for Forest and is the third top scorer in the division
Next two were Kieran Agard and Callum Wilson who both finished on 21 goals, and moved for £750,000 and £3m, respectively. Agard has seven goals, Wilson has 12.
Based on all that, £2m is a little below what you would expect for Doyle alright, but not by much. £3m is probably closer to his value.

Must bear in mind that every one of the above was/is younger than Eoin Doyle is now. The older memebers of that crop were 24 last summer (Baldock and Agard) and the more expensive ones were Assombalonga and Wilson were also the youngest (21 and 22). That does infer that age is a huge factor in the valuations. Doyle is 26 now and will be 27 in the summer.

In fact, as age ascends the price relatively descends in those examples- Baldock aside which is due to the fact that he has more career goals and Championship experience relative to Agard. Again, Doyle is not abundant in either.

[Olé Olé]

I suspect Baldock is being played out of position.


Not sure myself where he's playing positionally but he's playing with a struggling side in Brighton which does normally tend to impact on players' tallies.

[tetsujin1979]

Not sure what you point is with Callum Wilson 15 in 32 in the Championship which is almost the same strike rate as his 22 in 42 in League 1.

0.523 v 0.46 not much different, so it seem a player can go up a division with little drop in strike rate.
How much would a 20 goal a season man be in the Premiership?
£20 million+ ?

I suspect Baldock is being played out of position.

Walters seem to be getting the goals now he is playing centrally
I was comparing the transfers of last season's top scorers in League One to get an estimate of Doyle's value, and added in some extra information about how they're performing this season. Nothing more.

[Olé Olé]

Bit of word on twitter that he's close to signing with Cardiff City and it's been published on the deadline day tracker of the Guardian. We'll wait and see.

[zero]

from rte:

Cardiff target Eoin Doyle is believed to be heading to the Welsh capital for a medical, with a £750,00 fee which could rise above £1million with add ons thought to have been agreed between the two clubs.

would be a big move. Cardiff unlikely to make a late run at the playoffs (unless doyler goes GOAL MAD) but a season in the championship wouldn't hurt, assuming he can force his way into the side. he'd likely be playing along side a Big Man in Kenwyne Jones.

[nigel-harps1954]

Confirmed to Cardiff.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/transfer-window/video-irelands-eoin-doyle-joins-cardiff-for-an-undisclosed-fee-30958485.html

[tricky_colour]

Not sure myself where he's playing positionally but he's playing with a struggling side in Brighton which does normally tend to impact on players' tallies.


"On 6 August 2014, Assombalonga joined Nottingham Forest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Forest_F.C.) on a five-year contract for an undisclosed fee[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britt_Assombalonga#cite_note-19) reported to be in the region of £5 million which could rise to £8 million based on appearances (of which Watford will receive 50% due to sell-on clauses)."

He joined from Peterborough United (league one) stats 43 games, 23 goals.

Eoin has 25 in 33 this season.

So if Cardiff got him for the £750,000 they got the bargain of the season!!

To me kind of money paid for Assombalonga is a far more realistic amount, OK he is a bit younger but
Eoin is 40% better on strike rate, so I'd say £10,000,000 is a realistic amount.

[Olé Olé]

"On 6 August 2014, Assombalonga joined Nottingham Forest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Forest_F.C.) on a five-year contract for an undisclosed fee[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britt_Assombalonga#cite_note-19) reported to be in the region of £5 million which could rise to £8 million based on appearances (of which Watford will receive 50% due to sell-on clauses)."

He joined from Peterborough United (league one) stats 43 games, 23 goals.

Eoin has 25 in 33 this season.

So if Cardiff got him for the £750,000 they got the bargain of the season!!

To me kind of money paid for Assombalonga is a far more realistic amount, OK he is a bit younger but
Eoin is 40% better on strike rate, so I'd say £10,000,000 is a realistic amount.








I think the Doyle fee is an accurate reflection of the risk posed by signing him. I hope he repays it and then some. And when I refer to risk I suggest you look at it this way: if Doyle fails to cut the mustard at Championship level then no League 1 side will have the finances to cover Cardiff's outlay. The best they'll be able to hope for is a Championship or League 1 side taking a punt on his wages on a loan deal maybe. It's far from guaranteed he'll translate the (admittedly, phenomenal) League 1 tally to the Championship, bearing in mind he hardly lit alight League 2 in the prior season.

As regards Assombalonga, that fee was probably inflated because MacAnthony drives a hard bargain. Apparently the fee paid for Assombalonga by Peterborough was a chunky one also, demonstrating MacAnthony's ability to make a very quick buck by identifying such a player. He has 14 league goals so far this season. Hopefully Doyle can match that in the second half or so of the season.

Is Doyle the type of player more likely to thrive up top with a big striker like Kenwyne Jones?

[CraftyToePoke]

As regards Assombalonga, that fee was probably inflated because MacAnthony drives a hard bargain. Apparently the fee paid for Assombalonga by Peterborough was a chunky one also, demonstrating MacAnthony's ability to make a very quick buck by identifying such a player. He has 14 league goals so far this season. Hopefully Doyle can match that in the second half or so of the season.

I think it's more Ferguson and his team identifying these lads and improving them, than MacAnthony doing so, but maybe the money being made moving these lads on is keeping the manager / chairman relationship at Peterborough sweeter than if it was just about the clubs league form. Watford also had a first refusal clause, I think, as part of letting Assombalonga go to Peterborough in the first place.

[tricky_colour]

I think the Doyle fee is an accurate reflection of the risk posed by signing him. I hope he repays it and then some. And when I refer to risk I suggest you look at it this way: if Doyle fails to cut the mustard at Championship level then no League 1 side will have the finances to cover Cardiff's outlay. The best they'll be able to hope for is a Championship or League 1 side taking a punt on his wages on a loan deal maybe. It's far from guaranteed he'll translate the (admittedly, phenomenal) League 1 tally to the Championship, bearing in mind he hardly lit alight League 2 in the prior season.

As regards Assombalonga, that fee was probably inflated because MacAnthony drives a hard bargain. Apparently the fee paid for Assombalonga by Peterborough was a chunky one also, demonstrating MacAnthony's ability to make a very quick buck by identifying such a player. He has 14 league goals so far this season. Hopefully Doyle can match that in the second half or so of the season.

Is Doyle the type of player more likely to thrive up top with a big striker like Kenwyne Jones?


The only reason I can think of for huge differences in goals scored is different positions being played in a different system
or at a different end of the league.

I don't see there being much risk with his strike rate, also 10 assists.

I think maybe the low fee may indicates he was near the end of his contract, in which case he can make big wage demands I expect,
which could be a problem for the buying club if he turns out to be rubbish., however I am pretty sure that won't be the case.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlcwqLgSgI

Some of his goals nothing much stands out, quite a variety. I think he has scored most of his goals
for the same manager, Paul Cook, so have a manager who understands his game seems to be important,
I'd say that is the same for a lot of player though. The manager at Cardiff is pretty decent I think so I think
he will do well there, let's hope so anyway!!

[nigel-harps1954]

Assombalonga was 21 years old at the time. One for the future and had a few teams after him. Doyle is 26, turning 27 next month. One would say there's much more risk factor in his signing and age is certainly taken into account when buying a striker.

[Olé Olé]

I think it's more Ferguson and his team identifying these lads and improving them, than MacAnthony doing so, but maybe the money being made moving these lads on is keeping the manager / chairman relationship at Peterborough sweeter than if it was just about the clubs league form. Watford also had a first refusal clause, I think, as part of letting Assombalonga go to Peterborough in the first place.

I agree, Ferguson definitely identifies them. But my point more relates to MacAnthony willing to commission an outlay of around £1m on a striker who Watford probably wouldn't have let go otherwise- he probably recognised the potential, as opposed to identifying it.

It's quite an interesting business model and one which Dwight Gayle and Assombalonga have ensured realises a gain.

Has Doyle got 10 assist so far this season? That's an excellent return also.

[Crosby87]

On Doyle and Andrews
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/eoin-doyle-and-keith-andrews-swap-divisions-and-boost-international-chances-1.2090314

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Doyle off the mark for Cardiff with his 26th of the season.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Won a penalty too.

[Charlie Darwin]

Second goal for Cardiff to equalise against Mick Mc's Ipswich.

[tricky_colour]

2 in 5 games now, but that is still 2 in 13 overall, maybe he will kick on an get a few more now though.

[Olé Olé]

Cardiff are comfortably midtable so there's little to play for there at the moment. I think Doyle needed to rack up a couple of goals before the season was out to show he could adapt to Championship. It would have been easy to see Cardiff recouping their fee from an ambitious L1 side with a few pound otherwise. A few more goals while the likes of Simon Cox and Anthony Stokes are staying quiet won't do his chances of a call-up any harm either.

[Olé Olé]

Cardiff are 2-0 up to relegated Blackpool. Mason from play and Doyle from the penalty spot.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Doyle on course for a hat-trick after scoring another peno.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Doyle the MOTM for Cardiff.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-ratings-eoin-doyle-9118582

Eoin Doyle and Joe Mason started together up front and showed signs that they could develop into a first choice partnership next season, as they both got on the scoresheet to sink the Tangerines (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-3-2-blackpool-relive-9116487).

Man-of-the-match: Eoin Doyle

Quality movement, awareness. Twice played a role in build-up to Mason’s goal. Scored from penalties with clinical efficiency, taking his tally to 29 this season (25 for Chesterfield) 8

[tetsujin1979]

Included in the league one team of the season, despite not having played there since the end of January!
from http://www.thepfa.com/news/2015/4/26/l1-team-of-the-year

Eoin Doyle

Forward, Chesterfield
The Dublin-born striker’s 32 goals in 69 games for Chesterfield earned him a move to Championship club Cardiff in the transfer window. There were plenty of other suitors who recognised the striking qualities of a player who began his career in Ireland with Shamrock and Sligo before making his mark in Scotland with Hibs. Fourteen goals in the first two months of the season alerted a host of clubs, with Cardiff winning the race for his signature.

[SkStu]

Shamrock. Always good for a lol.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

30th goal of the season for Doyle this afternoon. 4 goals in his last 4 games at this level.

Well worthy of a call up this summer, never mind Callum Wilson, Patrick Bamford and players that don't want to play for Ireland.

[zero]

agreed - madden couldn't really cut it in the championship so i held back on doyle but after a slow start he has settled in at cardiff and the goals have come.

has to be considered.

[tetsujin1979]

Harsh on Madden, had a falling out with the manager at Yeovil and never really got a chance at championship level before decided a move to Scunthorpe would be better for him

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-citys-eoin-doyle-tells-9641963

Doyle tells Slade he's the man to lead the charge for Cardiff after adapting to steep step up.

[SkStu]

Doyle gone to PNE on loan for the season. Will be disappointed with that I'd say and, though I don't get much Championship footie here at all, he appeared to be faring fairly well?

[Charlie Darwin]

He hadn't made an appearance all season AFAIK.

[back of the net]

Doyle gone to PNE on loan for the season. Will be disappointed with that I'd say and, though I don't get much Championship footie here at all, he appeared to be faring fairly well?


Just checked the net to see he has 5 goals in 16 appearances for Cardiff.


Surprised to see him been loaned out considering they paid 750K for him

[Olé Olé]

Yeah, Cardiff have been going with Kenwyne Jones and Joe Mason this season. In fairness, it's hard to fault them. Jones has a solid PL record and would trouble any defence with his physicality. Mason is one of our own and has two goals in his five starts so we can't complain there.

I think 3 of those 5 goals were penalties for Doyle, no?

Anyway, it's not a bad move for him. Preston were apparently interested in January and he'll get his fair amount of chances to prove himself there, surely, and there's no drop in division.

[SkStu]

Absolutely not a bad move for him but will be interesting to see how he responds.

Charlie, for some reason I had it in my head that he'd scored this season.

[tricky_colour]

Yea I don't see this as bad new at all given the situation, if he stayed he would more
likely be competing for Mason's place.

Indeed 3 were penalties 2 v Blackpool and 1 v Ipswich.

Anyhow they way I see it is he will be getting more time on the pitch playing and that can't be a bad things.

Cardiff will not look too clever is Preston finish above them!!

And what happens when Cardiff play Preston? Will he be "cup tied"?

[Charlie Darwin]

It's more or less standard these days that all loaned players have a clause not to play their employers. Arsenal used to let their loanees play against them but I'm pretty sure they stopped after it bit them in the arse a couple of times.

[tetsujin1979]

Think that's for Premier League clubs only Charlie, and it's a regulation enforced by the PL itself, not by clubs

[PartySaint]

Doyle gone to PNE on loan for the season. Will be disappointed with that I'd say and, though I don't get much Championship footie here at all, he appeared to be faring fairly well?

He hasn't got a look in this season, he wanted a permanent move but the club said no. Delighted to get out of Cardiff for awhile apparently

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Last minute equalizer from Doyle.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Looks like the goal originally given to Marnick Vermijl in the Bolton game has been awarded to Doyle, which means he has 2 in 2, and 4 in 23 for the season.

9 in 23 starts for Cardiff and Preston when you put it like that.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/championship/top-scorers

Interesting to note also that his ex strike partner, Joe Mason, has the best shots on target conversion ratio by a distance among the leading scorers in the Championship.