Liam Lawrence [Archive] - Page 2

cullenswood

01/04/2005, 8:50 AM

And his Irish credentials are what exactly? Being called Liam and maybe having a great-Grandmother born in Ireland? I thought he was unable to get an Irish passport when Givens was sniffing about a couple of years ago.

They were talking about him on Newstalk last nite. He has declared for Ireland. The bloke from the Sunderland fanzine was saying that he is excellent player and all the Sunderlands fans reckon he is much better than Kilbane....but then again they would, they hated Kilbane.

elroy

01/04/2005, 10:16 AM

Carsley has retired so it's academic. But under no circumstances would I ever consider him an option at RHM just because he's playing very well in a defensive central position.

I also don't think that RHM is that problematic. Finnan has looked very accomplished in this role. If Andy Reid gets a good move & Steven Reid continues to get back on track we have more than adequate cover. And young McGeady is getting closer & closer.

Lads am I alone in thinkin Steven Reid could well be our answer on the RHS. IMO he was one of the most exciting prospects prior to the WC and did very well in the game against Cameroon when he came on. Its only recently hes started getting games and regaining full fitness and its starting to show with good performances. Would must rather have a natural right footed player on the RHS than playing someone like Andy Reid there.

Stuttgart88

01/04/2005, 10:43 AM

Well I see that I've been quouted going back a month or two (at least). I just posted on the O'Shea vs Harte thread that I think the tight pitch on Saturday was a really telling factor. It completely negated our preference for width. Fiunnan is a much better player than he looked on Saturday.

But yes, I do have hopes for Steven Reid. His first season in the Premiership was a virtual write-off and he's slowly re-establishing himself. If he continues to progress at Blackburn he could be a fine player. He can play well centrally too, maybe even better. I prefer him now to Miller.

The fact that Reid is left footed doesn't seem to bother him. I love it when he & Duff interchange. So with Andy Reid and Finnan as our current options, and McGeady & Steven Reid as future options I don't think we're too bad. OK, so neither Reid nor Finnan covered himself in glory on their last showings but I don't think it's symptomatic of an ongoing "problem" in RHM.

Then again, maybe I'm an ostrich!

dr_peepee

01/04/2005, 5:55 PM

FYI from Soccernet

"The rejuvenated Steven Reid's athleticism and hitherto unseen passing ability have helped the Irishman establish himself as the most offensive of the three central midfielders.

Reid was instrumental in perhaps Blackburn's most notable victory under Hughes, a 1-0 success at Everton where the absence of Savage"

brine3

01/04/2005, 6:05 PM

I thought Steven Reid was fantastic in the run up to the World Cup. I thought he should have gotten more time in the World Cup too. We could have done with him tearing into the knackered 10 man Spanish in extra time.

FarBeag

01/04/2005, 9:04 PM

zinedineontour

02/04/2005, 9:13 AM

Forget about Lawerence.He is not one of us apart from his first name,end of story. Let Carsley off into pastures we dont want him back no matter how good ye think he is playing. Stephen Reid appears to be coming back to his best so i will go along with him.Sod the other two plums.

what a ****ing stupid thing to say hes not one of us .. you ignornat little prat.. we cant be too picky and choosy and i didnt hear anyone complaining when the likes of aldo or ray houghton were scoring for us .. or matt holland for **** sake... if players give 100% for us then fair play .. would love carsley back in the form he is in ,, stephen reid looks well away from the squad imo but lawrence looks a canny player from the games ive been over at this season !

Plastic Paddy

02/04/2005, 10:01 AM

what a ****ing stupid thing to say hes not one of us .. you ignornat little prat

Attack the post and not the poster. You should know the rules by now. No more personal attacks please.

:ball: PP

FarBeag

02/04/2005, 5:35 PM

Originally Posted by zinedineontour
what a ****ing stupid thing to say hes not one of us .. you ignornat little prat

Just as well I am not aloud attack the poster. Obviously Mr zinedineontours IQ levels are a little on the low side so i wont say any more in order not to confuse him. I still stick to my opinion on Liam Lawerence and Lee Carsley though 'MATE' which i am not of course.

livehead1

03/04/2005, 5:05 PM

**** not a personal attack ****
your POSTS are full of shi*e with reference to liam lawrence

FarBeag

03/04/2005, 5:47 PM

your POSTS are full of shi*e with reference to liam lawrence..

Ok Liveheader1...Just don't make a statement back the fcuking thing up if you are able of course.

Colie

03/04/2005, 7:39 PM

We're not complaining about Clinton are we & he took a fair bit of time to make up his mind.

Are people saying that people of Irish decent born in Britain have no right to call themselves Irish :mad: ? I think the Manchester, Birmingham & London boys will have a thing or 2 to say about that......

FarBeag

03/04/2005, 8:37 PM

Quote by Colie....Are people saying that people of Irish decent born in Britain have no right to call themselves Irish ? I think the Manchester, Birmingham & London boys will have a thing or 2 to say about that......

I am not anyway.Where in the post does it say that???I have got every respect for guys brought up in England with Irish blood,my son is born here in London and some of my best mates are born here.My point is that until it is proven that Liam Lawrence is of Irish stock then he is truly English apart from his name(Liam) unless you know any different.if this is the case let us know where the conection is and then i will re-assess what i have posted and eat my words.

Colie

03/04/2005, 9:24 PM

My point is that until it is proven that Liam Lawrence is of Irish stock then he is truly English apart from his name(Liam) unless you know any different.

Oh, sorry mate, I see what you mean, but I reckon he must have some Irish blood if he's thinking of declaring for Ireland & I have heard it touted over the last year that he can play for Ireland, but its all hearsay (as ever).

livehead1

03/04/2005, 10:10 PM

rite heres how i back it up
in the squad at the moment we have quinn, playing for sheffield united. he has had his chance and this level and has never shown anythin that has made peopel stand up and take notice of him. graham barrett is another player not far away from the squad, playing reserve team football for coventry city, who are fighting relegation
liam lawrence has played very well when fit and scored 22goals for masnfield from midfield. not a very high level but i have seen him play many times and indeed played against him once and with the stags he always looked like a player who was a class above everyone around him and him declaring for ireland is excellant news as when sunderland go to the premiership next season he is quite likely to be a key performer for them, therefore gaining experience at the highest level and possibly fulfilling his potential, making him a key candidate to become a full irish international. i hope that fulfills the requirement of me "backing up" my comments,
and by the way the username is "Livehead1", Not Liveheader1, maybe you should put some glasses on...

FarBeag

03/04/2005, 10:33 PM

livehead1 or whatever..You need to calm down my friend or you will do yourself some unnecessary damage and that would be a big big shame ;) ..So are you telling me that the guy is Irish then or is of Irish decent? You should know i guess seeing you have played football with him. :) and i am sure you became close and had a chat or two on this subject in the showers.Give me a little inside info on the boy, where his Irishness lies etc etc and If this is the case then there is no problem.Play the man.

supasparx

03/04/2005, 11:17 PM

..So are you telling me that the guy is Irish then or is of Irish decent?
Depending on his own personal feeling this is one in the same.

Plastic Paddy

04/04/2005, 10:24 AM

livehead1 and FarBeag, in the light of comments made elsewhere in this thread I've asked posters not to get personal with each other but neither of you seem to have taken notice of this. Cut out the veiled attacks in public, take it to PM or find another message board for the verbal jousting.

:ball: PP

FarBeag

04/04/2005, 2:11 PM

Sorry.Won't happen again.

livehead1

04/04/2005, 3:25 PM

tetsujin1979

04/04/2005, 3:46 PM

i was attacking the post, not the poster. im sure he has many valid views on many subjects, but simply do not agree with his vies on liam lawrence. farbeag...lawrence has said for around 2 years that he wants to play for us

I'm convinced I read an interview with him in FourFourTwo a few months back (before he'd moved to Sunderland) saying he was eligible to play for Ireland and wanted to attract Brian Kerr's attention.

FarBeag

04/04/2005, 9:20 PM

..Quote....Originally Posted by livehead1
i was attacking the post, not the poster. im sure he has many valid views on many subjects, but simply do not agree with his vies on liam lawrence. farbeag...lawrence has said for around 2 years that he wants to play for us

Fine.I will agree to disagree with you on this before i get into more trouble.Let's leave it at that ya...Cheers

livehead1

04/04/2005, 9:37 PM

I'm convinced I read an interview with him in FourFourTwo a few months back (before he'd moved to Sunderland) saying he was eligible to play for Ireland and wanted to attract Brian Kerr's attention.

ye he did say that but hes been saying for a good while he wanted 2 play for ireland. i remember a interview wit a local paper and he said he wanted to play for ireland them and thats about 18months. its different when you realise you have irish in you e.g. lawrence and then someday discovering that you are eligible e.g. marlon king etc... im sure lawrence feels some affinity wit ireland

Peadar

06/04/2005, 8:59 AM

Lawrence did well last night.
He had a great first half.

tetsujin1979

06/04/2005, 9:49 AM

Nice pass for the opening goal too, but did the ball cross the line??

zinedineontour

23/05/2005, 7:24 PM

Has to be close to an international call up.. been over to 11 sunderland games last season and as the season went on he improved dramatically .. think he is a great option on the right as its not a position we have that much options.. andy reid prefers the left and stephen reid seems to prefer the centre ... worth be worth an outing in the italy friendly imo.

Eirambler

23/05/2005, 8:22 PM

zinedineontour

23/05/2005, 8:35 PM

Not sure if he's actually got his international papers sorted out, so it might not be possible to call him up just yet. But I'd agree with you, from what I've heard about him this season he's a definite prospect.

got his passport in feb .. great crosser of the ball a bit similar to beckhams style of play on the sense he doesnt usually fly past people on the wing would rather pop in a cross ..

concanta

15/10/2005, 5:23 PM

What position is he?
Is he any good?

TheJamaicanP.M.

15/10/2005, 6:11 PM

He generally plays on the right side of midfield which has tended to be a problem position for us. However, I don't think he's international standard. He scored plenty of goals from his midfield position in the lower leagues. From what I know of him he would seem to be part of what Pat Kenny described as the "Rolex watch" brigade. He fancies himself a bit and has been fined for speeding in his sports car.

I would describe him as a decent Championship player but he doesn't have enough pace, strength or skill to cut it at the top level.

Dodge

15/10/2005, 9:21 PM

Not Irish in any way either...

concanta

16/10/2005, 11:03 AM

so what if hes not irish
dont think we can be choosy

concanta

16/10/2005, 11:20 AM

apparently parents are

gustavo

16/10/2005, 1:20 PM

welll thats just great then!

davey

16/10/2005, 1:51 PM

Don't think anyone on this forum has yet established the credentials of young Lawrence.

Dodge

16/10/2005, 2:02 PM

so what if hes not irish
dont think we can be choosy
:rolleyes: Jesus ****ing christ....

concanta

16/10/2005, 7:47 PM

don't f*cking start that sh*te
don't you want us to challenge again

gustavo

16/10/2005, 8:02 PM

so we just go out and get any old journeyman englishman ?

livehead1

16/10/2005, 8:37 PM

hes a good player...has an irish passport and is playing in the premiership. if breen, o'shea, miller, doherty can get in the squad then why cant he

dynamo kerry

16/10/2005, 10:21 PM

hes a good player...has an irish passport and is playing in the premiership. if breen, o'shea, miller, doherty can get in the squad then why cant he

miller? youmean mcgeady I hope?

Dodge

16/10/2005, 11:38 PM

don't f*cking start that sh*te
don't you want us to challenge again
You stated "so what if he's not irish". How can you justify picking people who aren't Irish?!?!?

And to answer your question, I'd rather we lose every game than play a load of mercenaries. Lawrence decided to get an irish passport when he was 24? Did he not want to be Irish before? Oh and on a football matter, he's fairly poor. Decent championship player but no more

livehead1

17/10/2005, 8:55 AM

miller? youmean mcgeady I hope?

nah mcgeady aint been in the squad at the moment. lawrence has played better than miller this season, he started against united, i dint see miller?lol

gustavo

17/10/2005, 9:47 AM

hmm maybe thats cos its a lot easier to get into the sunderland team than the manchester united team.

zinedineontour

17/10/2005, 10:26 AM

Lawrence is a good player ... plays in the style of beckham in the fact he doesnt really go pass his man but sprays the ball around the field very well. In and out of the side this season but has had injuries so hopefully he will cement a place in the side .. as others have said if miller and doherty can get in the side he deserves his chance ..

superfrank

17/10/2005, 4:38 PM

Apparently, he is in the business of getting an Irish passport.

Also, Anton Ferdinand qualifies somehow?

Zidane

17/10/2005, 5:42 PM

I find the Anton Ferdinand story a bit hard to believe. ASAIK he has played U21 for England

FarBeag

17/10/2005, 9:12 PM

We have been through all this before with Lawerence.Just another Irish wanabee.With regard to Rio's little brother this has got to be some kind of joke.One brother playing for Ingerland and the other for us.That is just hilarious.

Irish_Praha

17/10/2005, 9:15 PM