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freddieflinston
29/10/2011, 1:47 PM
Rule 2f - Any player who plays in the Senior Cup or Intermediate Cup is not eligible to play in the competition.
The Lawd
29/10/2011, 5:20 PM
Was down Leeside park 2day watching the Kilumney match. Lawds if anyone telling me that kearney a great player your having a laugh. Delea distroyed him and Ricky Getts distroyed him in the air.. Good game to watch tho...
super_mario
29/10/2011, 5:49 PM
Southsider what club you attached to?? I speak to alot of senior managers including premier and they all say they'd love to have babsy so your wrong there I also watch alot of senior games and I know they'd do a job up there didn Paul condon go to rockmount and doing well and I remember last year peopl were saying he wasn't a good player either? Crows kicking was poor in the past but I know he's worked on it and his kicking has come on an awful lot, O Connell with rockmount seniors I'd the worst kicker of a ball I've seen and he played with Ireland so your honestly saying he couldn play senior cos of some of his kickouts cop on will ya, gettings was chased all summer by corintians and as far as I know delea approached by rockmount so there obviously good enough, I'd reckon keegan be good enough and he should start instead of Kearney on the AUL team if you ask me a much better centre half..
People love putting players down on here I dunno is it an Irish thing or what but it's disgraceful, people hate to praise people even when they deserve it!
pacman
29/10/2011, 7:20 PM
Was down Leeside park 2day watching the Kilumney match. Lawds if anyone telling me that kearney a great player your having a laugh. Delea distroyed him and Ricky Getts distroyed him in the air.. Good game to watch tho...
To be fair Lawd you're pretty spot on there although you're probably being a bit harsh on Kearney. Delea had the best game ive seen him in a long time and yes Gettings won everything in the air. Leeside should have won by a lot more to be honest.
Big Wilton contingent there watching it.
Ricky wasn't cashed by anyone this season and that Is fact and Delea is on the same boat lads!! So the facts are wrong there lads.... As for match today, leeside should of been 2 if not 3 up before killumney scored, good goal in fairness to them u must say, worked well and well finished. Leeside had pen 10 min to go in 1st half, ref card was shown to culprit, first yellow for fowl and then red for dissent, for what was said after it was fair. Pen missed. Leeside dominated game really afterwards. Double sub made 15min in 2nd half and fair play to management it worked well, within 5min 2 goals and subs scored and set up the 2. After that it could of been many more if chances taken.
Now to the good stuff, leeside player was spoken to at half time for taking Pisa out of opposition player, that player in q, was able to take but not give!! Killumney made complaint at half time that Aaron was being picked on so leave him alone!!!! Haha well done!!! As for best defender in Aul which he quoted himself on pitch today, that's another fantasy in people's heads and to tell Delea that he past it and then to be given a show in football by him, I'll say no more!!! Sure win, loose, draw, €30 how bad!!!!
the ghost
29/10/2011, 10:03 PM
[QUOTE=Donnie Darko;1547258]Were you at the game wednesday Ghost out of interest. Your always very quick to point out what's wrong but have very little to offer in terms of improving things. What would your starting 11 be since your AUL knowledge seems to cover all the leagues.[/QUOTE
I'm always very quick to point out whats wrong? I'd say I post about 3 times a year so what are you talking? And I have very little to offer in terms of improving things?? I think picking a strong squad and a strong first team is kind of self explanatory don't you think?
Id say I must of touched a nerve with my post with you I'd say did I? You involved with squad since your so defensive with my post? And cleary im not the only one who doesnt think kearney is great lookin at posts tonight
shetland
29/10/2011, 11:19 PM
was at leeside match today too,and i would echo the sentiments of previous posters,derek delea was awsome,his quickness of feet was ajoy to watch,he won a penalty and the sending off was right for the dissent.i missed the killumney goal but i think they will upset a few teams, i thought the introduction of nodwell made a huge difference to leeside too,but i have to say delea in that form up top which i think is his best position ,could have made a huge difference to aul team last wednesday.what i will say though is that referee chalky should realise that the game is not about him and i thought he was centre of attention far to much,it was good game though ,kearney is big strong defender but i thought he was dragged about a bit ,not one of his better days but wouldnt like to come up against him every week. as for leeside still a force to be reckoned with.
Kearney
30/10/2011, 8:13 AM
[QUOTE=Donnie Darko;1547258]Were you at the game wednesday Ghost out of interest. Your always very quick to point out what's wrong but have very little to offer in terms of improving things. What would your starting 11 be since your AUL knowledge seems to cover all the leagues.[/QUOTE
I'm always very quick to point out whats wrong? I'd say I post about 3 times a year so what are you talking? And I have very little to offer in terms of improving things?? I think picking a strong squad and a strong first team is kind of self explanatory don't you think?
Id say I must of touched a nerve with my post with you I'd say did I? You involved with squad since your so defensive with my post? And cleary im not the only one who doesnt think kearney is great lookin at posts tonight
Ghost you are entitled to your opinion, hence why I asked you to name your 11. I want to see improvements within the AUL. I think if people voice them here, then they might be taken on board because everyone reads this don't they?
Kearney
30/10/2011, 8:46 AM
I was at the game yesterday & I said to myself that I wouldn't post unless there were lies being told on this. Mario said it when he said people love naming players and putting them down on this. It's harsh at the best of times but wrong when the facts are wrong. Bluey you are involved with Leeside so a bit of honesty would be nice from you. I was standing on yer line for the whole game & I have never heard so much abuse from a team. I heard various members on the line & a lot of players on the pitch dish out some of the worst abuse I have seen in a long time.
On the game itself, I thought Leeside started better & delea was causing problems as he was up front on his own & the 2 centre halves with Killumney didn't know who was marking him. Killumney scored a nice goal & were on top until the sending off. Delea made the penalty with a nice bit of skill before being taken down in the box. The ref booked the midfielder twice, once 4 abuse & once for the foul even though personally I thought the small centre half took delea down. Ricky missed & the away side held out for half time. I thought Leeside would come out all guns blazing 2nd half but being honest it was quite the opposite. Killumney actually looked quite comfortable despite being a man light as Leeside stayed with delea up front on his own. Strange decision IMO. The 2 subs were made & credit 2 the management there because within minutes of coming on nodwel scored. Was a good flick on by delea & then a tap in at the back post. Shocking defending by Killumney though. The 2nd came soon after when a long throw in to ricky was too long, the keeper came out but didn't grab it & it was poked home. A howler by the big man in goal but the leeside player didn't stop when some people might have.
As for the player in question which a lot of people have an opinion on, there was words between him & delea towards the end of the 1st half & that was it from the centre half. When Leeside scored I heard delea shout abuse at him, same with the 2nd from ricky & I'm sorry now but the keeper must have called him a "tramp" at least 4 times. People are quick to post on here with "facts" when they couldn't be further from the truth. Ricky was playing right wing, wasn't marking Killumney's centre half for any kick outs or set pieces so I disagree with you there lawd. The truth is Ricky did win a lot of ball but in his position, on his man. He clearly isn't everyone's cup of tea but I thought he done well 2nd half as they were a man down & kept trying to push his team on. At the end of the game, I seen a lot of handshakes which I couldn't see coming during the game as it was fairly heated. As I said earlier, the abuse was crazy & I think the ref didn't handle it well. Don't think he handled the game well either but that's for another day. Leeside won but the sending off spoiled what was shaping on to be a good game. Leeside should push on from here, on their day & when delea is buzzing like that, it will take something special to beat them because they have characters in their team. As for Killumney I would expect them to finish top 5. There not a bad side for a newly promoted 1 but will probably lack that experience they need to get points away at the big sides.
shetland
30/10/2011, 9:01 AM
in fairness to ya donie , i think you were spot on there in everything you said .we must have been near each other so as i was behind the leeside bench outside the wire.,.most come on here and voice their oppinions and rightly so but its also good to see posters have similar oppinions too. well done.
pacman
30/10/2011, 9:55 AM
I was at the game yesterday & I said to myself that I wouldn't post unless there were lies being told on this. Mario said it when he said people love naming players and putting them down on this. It's harsh at the best of times but wrong when the facts are wrong. Bluey you are involved with Leeside so a bit of honesty would be nice from you. I was standing on yer line for the whole game & I have never heard so much abuse from a team. I heard various members on the line & a lot of players on the pitch dish out some of the worst abuse I have seen in a long time.
On the game itself, I thought Leeside started better & delea was causing problems as he was up front on his own & the 2 centre halves with Killumney didn't know who was marking him. Killumney scored a nice goal & were on top until the sending off. Delea made the penalty with a nice bit of skill before being taken down in the box. The ref booked the midfielder twice, once 4 abuse & once for the foul even though personally I thought the small centre half took delea down. Ricky missed & the away side held out for half time. I thought Leeside would come out all guns blazing 2nd half but being honest it was quite the opposite. Killumney actually looked quite comfortable despite being a man light as Leeside stayed with delea up front on his own. Strange decision IMO. The 2 subs were made & credit 2 the management there because within minutes of coming on nodwel scored. Was a good flick on by delea & then a tap in at the back post. Shocking defending by Killumney though. The 2nd came soon after when a long throw in to ricky was too long, the keeper came out but didn't grab it & it was poked home. A howler by the big man in goal but the leeside player didn't stop when some people might have.
As for the player in question which a lot of people have an opinion on, there was words between him & delea towards the end of the 1st half & that was it from the centre half. When Leeside scored I heard delea shout abuse at him, same with the 2nd from ricky & I'm sorry now but the keeper must have called him a "tramp" at least 4 times. People are quick to post on here with "facts" when they couldn't be further from the truth. Ricky was playing right wing, wasn't marking Killumney's centre half for any kick outs or set pieces so I disagree with you there lawd. The truth is Ricky did win a lot of ball but in his position, on his man. He clearly isn't everyone's cup of tea but I thought he done well 2nd half as they were a man down & kept trying to push his team on. At the end of the game, I seen a lot of handshakes which I couldn't see coming during the game as it was fairly heated. As I said earlier, the abuse was crazy & I think the ref didn't handle it well. Don't think he handled the game well either but that's for another day. Leeside won but the sending off spoiled what was shaping on to be a good game. Leeside should push on from here, on their day & when delea is buzzing like that, it will take something special to beat them because they have characters in their team. As for Killumney I would expect them to finish top 5. There not a bad side for a newly promoted 1 but will probably lack that experience they need to get points away at the big sides.
Fair assesment Donnie but I think when Leeside went 2 up top thats when Ricky started winnign the ariel battle. If I recall one of Boos posts from the mossie linane game i'd say the verbals carried over from that game and in fairness it was the same Kilumney player in question again. I think he is being harshly treated on here but at the same time i'd suggest he is probably not doing himself any favours either.
As for Blueys post I can only assume he was speaking to the players directly so might have a better version of events than the rest of us of course he could be just stirring the pot also. Given its a bank holiday weekend we'll probably get a post from Boo at 3am tonight with another version of events
overthehill
30/10/2011, 12:45 PM
Well done Donnie, a superb grasp of the game whereas Bluey was a "little" blinkered. Sending off did spoil the game and the referee did not have one of his better days. Seems to scatter cards like confetti these days and enjoys a bit of confrontation but usually not one of the worst out there. Not easy to get a result in Leeside esp. with 10 men for 65mins but fair play to Killumney who kept going to the end. The experience will serve them well.
The Lawd
30/10/2011, 1:36 PM
If you didn't see the incident why the keeper called kearney a "tramp" 4 tomes, you shouldn't be commenting on it... I believe he shouted "tramp" 3 times and it was beecause kearney punched him in the stomach with the ball.
shetland
30/10/2011, 5:55 PM
Correct lawd, u must be leeside to come out with that statement!!! True u are, look lads I can go on all day who said what and what was said, yes as someone said earlier I am buddies with lads and I told truth. As for what AARON said to Delea, I heard it myself cause I was behind goal when happened. Ya he ok player when up against nothing but when put against class like yesterday, well who was there knows themselves. :-)well bluey that may have been the case yesterday ,but against wilton a few weeks back he didnt give their forwards a sniff. i dont know the lad from adam but id rather him playing with me than against me.,as reguards winding up other players it happens all the time ,even in english prem,look at john terry he is supposed to be one of englands best ,but was dire yesterday.
The Lawd
30/10/2011, 8:27 PM
No bluely. Not Leeside at all. Not even close, I just say it as I see it. And must say I agree with you but you do sound abit bios.. Donnie Darko, its a man's game, people wind people up, if poor AARON can't take a wind up, he might aswell stop playing ball.
overthehill
30/10/2011, 9:01 PM
Who said Kearney couldnt take a wind up, its easy to critisise on this forum hiding behind the screen, as Gordon Strachan once said "im delighted when i hear the barracking from opposing fans because it means they are aware of the damage i can do, nobody bothers to barrack an "average" or lesser known player. Killumney can take pride in the way Leeside celebrated the win at the end, it showed how seriously they had taken the calibre of the opposition. There were a couple of guys missing for Killumney aswell so they can field a stronger side than what started yesterday. Surprised to see Nodwell on the bench for Leeside, so they must have been near full strenght. Good to see handshakes at the end and management of both sides being gracious.
shetland
30/10/2011, 9:14 PM
well put hill as always,.
offside rule
30/10/2011, 9:27 PM
Kilreen 0 - 2 Springfield
Great start for Springers here in the match(after the hassle of negotiating the Wilton traffic disruption(fly-over works) and jazz weekend city centre traffic-some of our players only arriving 10mins before kick-off). - Kilreen keeper messed up a clearance, ball fell kindly at Springfield strikers feet and he tucked it away nicely, to put Springers 1up!.Kireen had 1notable chance after that, their striker going passed Springers keeper but only managed to find the side netting from a tight angle. Springfield slighlty having the better of the possesion & chances following this but score remained 1-0 at half-time.
Kilreen chasing the game had a good 15min spell in 2nd half where they searched for the equaliser but never really threatened Springfileds goal. Good build up play, involving some nice passing carved open the Kilreen defence and our on-rushing centre mid collected pass at edge of the box before going round the keeper and tucking it away. After this the game was more or less in the bag for Springers, had majority of the possesion and chances ut failed to add to add to the scoreline.
A good 3pts away from home, Game next week home to Castleview in the league.
2games played, 6pts! - happy with that.
On a previous discussion that was on here, about cup games & backlog of fixtures, would have to agree that if it could be looked at-where Prem Teams(incl Prem A) are introduced at a latter stage / or teams who make the last 8 from previous Seasons cup comp are given a bye into latter rounds, would certainly help witht the fixture congestion!
pacman
30/10/2011, 9:36 PM
Who said Kearney couldnt take a wind up, its easy to critisise on this forum hiding behind the screen, as Gordon Strachan once said "im delighted when i hear the barracking from opposing fans because it means they are aware of the damage i can do, nobody bothers to barrack an "average" or lesser known player. Killumney can take pride in the way Leeside celebrated the win at the end, it showed how seriously they had taken the calibre of the opposition. There were a couple of guys missing for Killumney aswell so they can field a stronger side than what started yesterday. Surprised to see Nodwell on the bench for Leeside, so they must have been near full strenght. Good to see handshakes at the end and management of both sides being gracious.
Not sure leeside were at full strength either. Just by looking at lads down there, there was Paudie Sullivan, Conor Murray, Terry Lotty and the young fella that plays up front just down there watching. No Hackett there either
shetland
30/10/2011, 10:34 PM
connor murray was an unused sub sat ,terry lotty was not togged off as was playing gaa final with mayfield,which they lost so should be back next week.hackett who now lives in mallow was unavailable,
scaffa7
31/10/2011, 10:20 AM
BOHEMIANS 2-1 LEEDS
Game of 2 halfs really played in the fairfield yesterday morn pitch was a bit iffy in the middle but it held up well enough.
Leeds better in the 1st half and deservedly went ahead after 20 mins when a mistake at the back resulted in us giving away a soft goal our keeper made another one or two saves to keep the scoreline at 1 nil, we had a couple of half chances but we went in 1 nil down at the break
Got a bit of bollicking at half time from the gaffer and went out a different team in the 2nd half and soon enough had the game level on 55 mins when Graham Doherty got to the end a David lynch flick on.
Had Leeds on the backfoot now went close and couple of times Midgy McCarthy going closest when his half volley was cleared of the line.Got 2nd and the winner when our winger Christy Bullman created a goal all on his own beat 2 players smashed a great right footer into a tight angle for 2-1 lead on 80 mins.
But with Bohs theres always some excitement at the end of a game and sure enough 90 min it happened again when our player handled on the line recieved a straight red and peno awarded.
Leeds centre forward steps up slotts it to the right and our keeper David Rea pulls off a brilliant save to get us all 3 points and a great win!
Nedge
31/10/2011, 12:43 PM
Must be very frustrating from teams in AUl league with the number of cups, wen will there league campaign start? Very harsh views on AUL team, wouldnt be suprised if the go to TIPP and hammer them off the pitch
thebooboys
31/10/2011, 9:13 PM
There is alot being said about the kill]umney game and all i have to say is that it was a fair result, with regards to the bitching the only bit i can remember is when the kilumney keeper started telling me the,booboys, shut up, instead of concentrating on the game. I also thought the ref had a good game as he got all the big decisions right on the day.
Kearney
31/10/2011, 9:48 PM
If you didn't see the incident why the keeper called kearney a "tramp" 4 tomes, you shouldn't be commenting on it... I believe he shouted "tramp" 3 times and it was beecause kearney punched him in the stomach with the ball.
Lawd you really do like to exaggerate don't you. The incident you are talking about is very clear in my mind. Killumney had a free, it went wide, kearney got the ball & handed it to the keeper, he then threw the ball away. The player then got the ball & placed it "firmly" in to the keepers chest. Yes it wasn't a friendly gesture but saying that I know I could have reacted alot worse myself given the intensity of the game. The abuse that followed should have been a yellow at the least but the ref turned a blind eye as he did all afternoon. I love a report but do try telling the truth.
Kearney
31/10/2011, 9:54 PM
No bluely. Not Leeside at all. Not even close, I just say it as I see it. And must say I agree with you but you do sound abit bios.. Donnie Darko, its a man's game, people wind people up, if poor AARON can't take a wind up, he might aswell stop playing ball.
Look Lawd, I always seem to be commenting on your posts but I can't say nothing when your posts make no sense. I'm sure the player is well able to take a wind up but you are missing the point. The 2 players in question were spoken to at half time & warned "if it continues, they will be booked or sent off". 1 player stopped, the other didn't. In that case the player should have been booked or sent off. The ref heard the abuse but said nothing. I didn't see the Killumney player complain about it & I also seen the 2 players in question shake hands at full time.
skippy7
31/10/2011, 11:54 PM
i think we are going to need a fourth official to keep an eye on who said what at the games in the future,come on now who cares who said what on the pitch the two players shook hands at the end of the game its over. AND i see John Terry is being critcised on here as well you must have been some player shetand
The Lawd
01/11/2011, 7:38 AM
So its ok for the player to react but not the keeper? We'll agree to disagree Donnie.
Shilts
01/11/2011, 1:24 PM
So its ok for the player to react but not the keeper? We'll agree to disagree Donnie.
A keeper is a player too I think :)
The Lawd
01/11/2011, 1:32 PM
A keeper is a player too I think :)
There's always one.. :)
freddieflinston
01/11/2011, 3:10 PM
I posted before about players not making themselves available for the AUL panelhere is the rules according to the AUL handbook20. Representative Matches –20(a) Each club shall be bound to place its players at the disposal of the league for representative and other matches arranged by the League.20(b) Any player selected to play and, without good and sufficient cause, failing to comply with the arrangements of the League may be judged by the league to be guilty of misconduct and shall be dealt with as the management committee think fit.20(c) The management committee may also deal with any club(s) who has encouraged players in the breach of instructions or rules.
freddieflinston
01/11/2011, 3:13 PM
So what would count as good and suffecient cause??? Bit of a non-rule if anything
Shilts
01/11/2011, 4:27 PM
There's always one.. :)
...at each end :)
The Lawd
01/11/2011, 4:57 PM
Lawd you really do like to exaggerate don't you. The incident you are talking about is very clear in my mind. Killumney had a free, it went wide, kearney got the ball & handed it to the keeper, he then threw the ball away. The player then got the ball & placed it "firmly" in to the keepers chest. Yes it wasn't a friendly gesture but saying that I know I could have reacted alot worse myself given the intensity of the game. The abuse that followed should have been a yellow at the least but the ref turned a blind eye as he did all afternoon. I love a report but do try telling the truth.
I don't think you had the best of it too be honest. Cos what I seen was a bit different and as for name calling, I would of called him a lot worse. Could have even been red card in my eyes.
maninthemiddle
02/11/2011, 2:07 PM
i had two fellas early on in the season go in for a 50/50 ball with great commitment. ball went out for a throw to one team.
the two lads got off the ground and were squaring up to each other.
one fella said to the other "ya ****in langer,you could have broke my leg"
the other fella says as they were just going head to head "shut up ya ****in *****".
i was right ther and blew the whistle as throw was being taken and just got myself between them and was having a word.
one fella says "ref are you going to allow him to call me a ***** like that" and the other fella says "you called me a langer sure".
i said "lads lads lads would ye ever calm down please. we will just say that ye are both right and we will just get on with it".
everyone agreed and we got on with it.
there is a line and if it gets crossed you take action. if we had to talk to every line and every player when there was a bit of verbals going on it would take 5 hours to get through a game. as i said there is a line.
cross it and out come the cards. if i had a penny for every time i was called a langer from the line or supporters i'd need no match fee.
Shilts
02/11/2011, 3:03 PM
Maninthemiddle, that's good common sense reffing - well done!!
Southsider
02/11/2011, 3:18 PM
i had two fellas early on in the season go in for a 50/50 ball with great commitment. ball went out for a throw to one team.
the two lads got off the ground and were squaring up to each other.
one fella said to the other "ya ****in langer,you could have broke my leg"
the other fella says as they were just going head to head "shut up ya ****in *****".
i was right ther and blew the whistle as throw was being taken and just got myself between them and was having a word.
one fella says "ref are you going to allow him to call me a ***** like that" and the other fella says "you called me a langer sure".
i said "lads lads lads would ye ever calm down please. we will just say that ye are both right and we will just get on with it".
everyone agreed and we got on with it.
there is a line and if it gets crossed you take action. if we had to talk to every line and every player when there was a bit of verbals going on it would take 5 hours to get through a game. as i said there is a line.
cross it and out come the cards. if i had a penny for every time i was called a langer from the line or supporters i'd need no match fee.Best post iv seen since i started..
six-yard-box
02/11/2011, 5:56 PM
Anybody hear bout an appeal been lodged from the aul with the fai over the recent Oscar traynor game?
the truth
02/11/2011, 7:31 PM
it appears msl used a player who played in fai intermediate cup this year which deems him illegal. nice one for aul as they will be awarded a 3 nil victory if appeal is successful
villaman10
02/11/2011, 8:04 PM
it appears msl used a player who played in fai intermediate cup this year which deems him illegal. nice one for aul as they will be awarded a 3 nil victory if appeal is successful
what player? would of been a stupid thing to do if proven true??
six-yard-box
02/11/2011, 9:06 PM
Killian murphy played intermediate cup for Douglas hall. Rule 2f states any player who plays senior cup or intermediate cup not eligible to play Oscar traynor.
freddieflinston
03/11/2011, 8:07 AM
Ah six yard box - i alluded to that illegal player a few days ago but no one picked up on it :-D . I think the MSL will be thrown out of the competition so it wont be a 3-0 win awarded - both MSL results will be irrelevant
freddieflinston
03/11/2011, 8:09 AM
i actually posted that rule on the 29th of October :D Shetland for someone who pays so much attention to the contents of the echo i'm surprised you didnt cop it haha
zohan
03/11/2011, 11:20 AM
Just looking back on the comments about the killumney game and the referee npt controlling it, i think the standard of referee has defnitly dropped! There are two or three who shouldnt be reffing at prem level! Theres a young ref o connell think its alan he looks like a lost boy out on the pitch! He sent off 3 and booked 12 or sumthong recently in a mjc cup game involving pearse and springers, and the game wasnt dirty at all but he just lost control of it and was booking for every tackle that went in! Ive been heard complaints from a few teams about the reffing this year! Feels like there throwing cards out for fun! Are they being told i wonder? €5 a yellow 25 a red is a lot of money
super_mario
03/11/2011, 1:02 PM
AUL made what was it 14 grand on fines last year?? Of course there told book at every opportunity or send off they have to make the 200,000 back somehow
maninthemiddle
03/11/2011, 1:38 PM
Just looking back on the comments about the killumney game and the referee npt controlling it, i think the standard of referee has defnitly dropped! There are two or three who shouldnt be reffing at prem level! Theres a young ref o connell think its alan he looks like a lost boy out on the pitch! He sent off 3 and booked 12 or sumthong recently in a mjc cup game involving pearse and springers, and the game wasnt dirty at all but he just lost control of it and was booking for every tackle that went in! Ive been heard complaints from a few teams about the reffing this year! Feels like there throwing cards out for fun! Are they being told i wonder? €5 a yellow 25 a red is a lot of money
thats your opinion and you are entitled to it.its a common view but not one which many refs will be worried about.
AUL made what was it 14 grand on fines last year?? Of course there told book at every opportunity or send off they have to make the 200,000 back somehow
i wont even dignify that with a response because im 100% sure you are joking. there is an easy way to avoid those fines.
freddieflinston
03/11/2011, 3:26 PM
Sorry maninthemiddle but i've seen this O'Connell fella reffing - was in the MSL junior section last yearhe is appalling . I saw him book a player twice . Two yellow cards . It was pointed out to him by the opposition and he did nothingIt was DEFINITELY the same player booked twice . he bottled it
Yeah sounds like him alrite, have seen him twice this season and taught he was poor! In big games in prem and mjc u need refs with experience and a bit of common sense and not be flashing cards just for the sake of it
maninthemiddle
04/11/2011, 8:07 AM
Sorry maninthemiddle but i've seen this O'Connell fella reffing - was in the MSL junior section last yearhe is appalling . I saw him book a player twice . Two yellow cards . It was pointed out to him by the opposition and he did nothingIt was DEFINITELY the same player booked twice . he bottled it
Yeah sounds like him alrite, have seen him twice this season and taught he was poor! In big games in prem and mjc u need refs with experience and a bit of common sense and not be flashing cards just for the sake of it
lads as i have said before i will never come on here and bad mouth any ref. how could i after all?
you are well entitled to your opinion and i wont be saying much about any individual on here or any individual situation in matches either. all my talk will be very general im afraid.
refs dont get to grade one without being assessed regularily and ill leave it at that. of course a ref can have a bad day or even a few of them over a season just like any players can.
i have played since i was 7 and being a ref is far far different to what i would have considered it to be when i was a player. there is so much more to it than just blowing the whistle when there is a foul or getting out a card. you could write 5 books on the back of what is needed from you from a safety and control point of view.
no two games are the same and what on paper may seem like a run of the mill game can be very difficult to ref and what may seem like on paper is going to be difficult and tense game to ref may be easy on the day.
what has always gotten me is that when i played we trained and tried everything to improve whether it was a new free kick routine or corner balls etc. we left no stone unturned including dealing with officials. i realised early in my 20's that there was no point in arguing with a ref even if i thought i was being robbed. a build up of frustration was only going to hamper my performance as much as a pulled hamstring.
i know thats not the same for everyone but i had other things to worry about other than what the ref was doing.its part of the game that the ref will be wrong at times. they cant get it right some days with fourth officials and tv replays so you can imagine how difficult it is on your own on a cold wet sunday morning in coachford.
for me the top top teams and the top top players in a league get this and its a part of their make up.
we are expected to be professional in every thing we do so why cant players and clubs be the same. they are for the most part and im always aware that lads have been training hard all week and more still are there putting up nets and lining pitches week in week out.
i do my best.
the sub
04/11/2011, 10:50 AM
saw the game must say he was reffing another game, the game was held up for 10 mins because he turned up with two wrong boots and the clubs had to get a pair for him.. the game was a very good clean game over all except for the first sendings off he had to go because a two footed challange on the keeper, the other two were a joke.. the amount of yellow cards that day was un called for.. Pearce were winning with 9 players and he played 10 mins over time and when springers scored he blew up a min later.. one of Pearce players blew his top and he was sent off that left 8 players.. springers 2nd goal was off side by 4 yards .. if im right he also booked one player twice and left him on the pitch and when he was told he did nothing .. i think that would bring the team down to 7 players and the game would have to be called off..
I hear he's earmarked for loi
shetland
04/11/2011, 12:53 PM
freddie i dont know the rules of the oscar traynor to be honest as id say a lot more dont.
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