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theboywonder8
23/06/2011, 4:01 PM
I'm saying they were put up to it ya.in other words they were made the scapegoats and didn't realise what they were letting themselves in for.

tedd11
23/06/2011, 4:53 PM
i think its an excellent facility and am looking forward to playing on the new astro.im sure aisling players and players on every other team will agree it is a much better option than the bottom field which is wrecked due to so many games.well done to all involved

thegreatone
23/06/2011, 9:13 PM
I'm saying they were put up to it ya.in other words they were made the scapegoats and didn't realise what they were letting themselves in for.


I highly doubt that now,how did you get this info?? and why would ldmc go to Aisling of all clubs like.

theboywonder8
23/06/2011, 9:53 PM
I highly doubt that now,how did you get this info?? and why would ldmc go to Aisling of all clubs like.

Don't believe it if you don't want to,that's your own business,but time will tell.

abbeyvale
23/06/2011, 10:52 PM
Has Ailsings new astro pitch also got floodlights? just curious, as it would be handy for winter evening games.
Boots for all players shouldnt be an issue in this day in age,
Surface is the same as most clubs train on atleast once a week in the winter months,
As for Aisling having an advantage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe, to start off with, but to make things even for all clubs..........why dont the LDMC hold the coming season's Touhy Cup in Aislings ground under floodlights (if they have them) , with Aisling's first round game being played last in order to give their opponents enough time to get used to the surface (and their players enough time to get moulded boots), and from there on its a win win for all concerned, all teams in the tournament will get more game/s to play on it and get used to it for the more important league games.

theboywonder8
23/06/2011, 11:55 PM
It is floodlit,and can you see ldmc paying the rent for the pitch and also losing gate money?

Fairkop
24/06/2011, 6:21 AM
Has Ailsings new astro pitch also got floodlights? just curious, as it would be handy for winter evening games.
Boots for all players shouldnt be an issue in this day in age,
Surface is the same as most clubs train on atleast once a week in the winter months,
As for Aisling having an advantage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe, to start off with, but to make things even for all clubs..........why dont the LDMC hold the coming season's Touhy Cup in Aislings ground under floodlights (if they have them) , with Aisling's first round game being played last in order to give their opponents enough time to get used to the surface (and their players enough time to get moulded boots), and from there on its a win win for all concerned, all teams in the tournament will get more game/s to play on it and get used to it for the more important league games.great suggestion,an ideal chance for all to sample the surface.

kalyani
24/06/2011, 8:08 AM
Don't believe it if you don't want to,that's your own business,but time will tell.

Does this mean that something is going to be changed or amended with the rule that you are saying time will tell or is this rule going ahead for the coming season for definite?

Johnnie C
24/06/2011, 1:11 PM
I believe there is a problem with the grading of clubs in Munster. Sides like Clonmel Town, St.Michael's, Carrick United, Fairview and Pike should be playing in the Munster Senior League or A Championship maybe. Pike beat a Louth side 8-0 in the latter stages of the Junior Cup which was ridiculous. You don't get scores like that in the Intermediate Cup. The above sides should be playing at a higher grade.

lfc at heart
24/06/2011, 1:41 PM
Has Ailsings new astro pitch also got floodlights? just curious, as it would be handy for winter evening games.
Boots for all players shouldnt be an issue in this day in age,
Surface is the same as most clubs train on atleast once a week in the winter months,
As for Aisling having an advantage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe, to start off with, but to make things even for all clubs..........why dont the LDMC hold the coming season's Touhy Cup in Aislings ground under floodlights (if they have them) , with Aisling's first round game being played last in order to give their opponents enough time to get used to the surface (and their players enough time to get moulded boots), and from there on its a win win for all concerned, all teams in the tournament will get more game/s to play on it and get used to it for the more important league games.


great idea

theboywonder8
24/06/2011, 1:59 PM
I believe there is a problem with the grading of clubs in Munster. Sides like Clonmel Town, St.Michael's, Carrick United, Fairview and Pike should be playing in the Munster Senior League or A Championship maybe. Pike beat a Louth side 8-0 in the latter stages of the Junior Cup which was ridiculous. You don't get scores like that in the Intermediate Cup. The above sides should be playing at a higher grade.

The crowd pike beat,bellurgan play in the aul premier.

mulla
24/06/2011, 4:27 PM
Has Ailsings new astro pitch also got floodlights? just curious, as it would be handy for winter evening games.
Boots for all players shouldnt be an issue in this day in age,
Surface is the same as most clubs train on atleast once a week in the winter months,
As for Aisling having an advantage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe, to start off with, but to make things even for all clubs..........why dont the LDMC hold the coming season's Touhy Cup in Aislings ground under floodlights (if they have them) , with Aisling's first round game being played last in order to give their opponents enough time to get used to the surface (and their players enough time to get moulded boots), and from there on its a win win for all concerned, all teams in the tournament will get more game/s to play on it and get used to it for the more important league games.

it is a good idea and i'm not knocking it but don't most if not all premier tems train on similar surfaces during the winter months anyways abbeyvale?

Monster
25/06/2011, 8:56 AM
Has anyone thought of the consequences of this ridicoulous new rule?? firstly it will be a long time before a Limerick team win a provincial or national cup.. secoundly any kid a club has brought up thru the ranks and is good enough to attract the attentions of Limerick will more than likely not be able to come back to his club if he is classed as ex league of Ireland as any of the top clubs will have their quota filled.. and is that what it takes to catch fairview and pike a rule change? pike fairview Boro have earned the right to be the top clubs as it took years to build tradition and the vision to have a bar shower and dressing rooms and quality playing surfaces and yet clubs who havnt the tradition or the facilities to attract the best players come together with a stupid rule to even things out.. it takes time lads and hard work to be a top club not a rule change that stops genuine lads old and young from playing football in this town.. the rule should have been any current league of Ireland senior player cannot play junior when their season ends in November until the following august..

Jofspring
25/06/2011, 9:49 AM
How many players though came through the ranks with Pike and Fairview (the two teams with predominantly ex-loi players), not that many I'd say. If anything the rule might encourage a lot of ex-LOI players to return to the clubs they came through the underage with and not just join Pike and Fairview. In saying that the U19 and A team part of the rule is still stupid and the rule needs to be tweaked. It will open up a lot of complaints from teams saying a club fielded 5 players, some of whom played ten seconds of U20 LOI about 5 years ago and stupid objections like that.

pearse4t3
25/06/2011, 9:50 AM
Has anyone thought of the consequences of this ridicoulous new rule?? firstly it will be a long time before a Limerick team win a provincial or national cup.. secoundly any kid a club has brought up thru the ranks and is good enough to attract the attentions of Limerick will more than likely not be able to come back to his club if he is classed as ex league of Ireland as any of the top clubs will have their quota filled.. and is that what it takes to catch fairview and pike a rule change? pike fairview Boro have earned the right to be the top clubs as it took years to build tradition and the vision to have a bar shower and dressing rooms and quality playing surfaces and yet clubs who havnt the tradition or the facilities to attract the best players come together with a stupid rule to even things out.. it takes time lads and hard work to be a top club not a rule change that stops genuine lads old and young from playing football in this town.. the rule should have been any current league of Ireland senior player cannot play junior when their season ends in November until the following august..

First decent and honest post on the matter.

theboywonder8
25/06/2011, 12:17 PM
First decent and honest post on the matter.

Agree 100%..it's riduclous and should never have been carried,maybe the fai will have something to say on it,after all they are the ruling body and they don't have that rule.

theboywonder8
25/06/2011, 12:22 PM
How many players though came through the ranks with Pike and Fairview (the two teams with predominantly ex-loi players), not that many I'd say. If anything the rule might encourage a lot of ex-LOI players to return to the clubs they came through the underage with and not just join Pike and Fairview. In saying that the U19 and A team part of the rule is still stupid and the rule needs to be tweaked. It will open up a lot of complaints from teams saying a club fielded 5 players, some of whom played ten seconds of U20 LOI about 5 years ago and stupid objections like that.

If it wasn't for those junior clubs you mention limerick wouldn't be in existence now,don't ever forget that,fairview and pike supplied the whole limerick team few years ago,the whytes,kev McCarthy,Dec Casey,e hickey,Connie,e walsh,r Hanrahan and a few more.

bluewhitearmy
25/06/2011, 12:30 PM
If it wasn't for those junior clubs you mention limerick wouldn't be in existence now,don't ever forget that,fairview and pike supplied the whole limerick team few years ago,the whytes,kev McCarthy,Dec Casey,e hickey,Connie,e walsh,r Hanrahan and a few more.

So?

Smaller junior teams supply the players for Pike and Fairview are they eternally grateful for that?

Even though Fairview do bring through a lot of very good players from their under-age teams.

A lot of Pikes FAI winning team were with Limerick recently are ye grateful to Limerick for that?

thegreatone
25/06/2011, 12:40 PM
Has anyone thought of the consequences of this ridicoulous new rule?? firstly it will be a long time before a Limerick team win a provincial or national cup.. secoundly any kid a club has brought up thru the ranks and is good enough to attract the attentions of Limerick will more than likely not be able to come back to his club if he is classed as ex league of Ireland as any of the top clubs will have their quota filled.. and is that what it takes to catch fairview and pike a rule change? pike fairview Boro have earned the right to be the top clubs as it took years to build tradition and the vision to have a bar shower and dressing rooms and quality playing surfaces and yet clubs who havnt the tradition or the facilities to attract the best players come together with a stupid rule to even things out.. it takes time lads and hard work to be a top club not a rule change that stops genuine lads old and young from playing football in this town.. the rule should have been any current league of Ireland senior player cannot play junior when their season ends in November until the following august..


I agree with you on a young player not coming back to play for a club, but tradition ha your having a laugh. Its all about money, nothing got to do with tradition.

Jofspring
25/06/2011, 1:21 PM
If it wasn't for those junior clubs you mention limerick wouldn't be in existence now,don't ever forget that,fairview and pike supplied the whole limerick team few years ago,the whytes,kev McCarthy,Dec Casey,e hickey,Connie,e walsh,r Hanrahan and a few more.

What has that got to do with anything? Where in my post did I say Limerick didn't get players from Pike and Fairview? Your point in this thread makes no sense at all and you seem to be trying to make an arguement from nothing.

Plenty of clubs have supplied Limerick with players down through the years not just those two clubs by the way.

As Bluewhitearmy says Limerick have gotten players from top junior teams and the top junior teams have gotten players from the weaker junior sides thats football.

Very few teams have players coming from underage right up to junior and if they are quality players stay with the club.

theboywonder8
25/06/2011, 1:30 PM
And where do you think ye got them from.???????

Jofspring
25/06/2011, 1:33 PM
And where do you think ye got them from.???????

Have you even read my post properly? :confused:

theboywonder8
25/06/2011, 2:00 PM
Have you even read my post properly? :confused:

Not your post I was answering,it's bwa's post.

bluewhitearmy
25/06/2011, 4:16 PM
Not your post I was answering,it's bwa's post.

We got some from Junior very little from Pike recently id say.

Who in Pikes squad came up through the Pike ranks?

Do Pike and other big junior teams go around thanking the smaller junior teams whos players they take as you seem to want Limerick to do?

Its called progressing and taking a step up you step up from the small junior teams to the likes of Fairview and Pike if your good enough then you step up from that to LOI if your good enough.

Read Jofs post says it all really.

blueboy2
25/06/2011, 5:31 PM
Has anyone thought of the consequences of this ridicoulous new rule?? firstly it will be a long time before a Limerick team win a provincial or national cup.. secoundly any kid a club has brought up thru the ranks and is good enough to attract the attentions of Limerick will more than likely not be able to come back to his club if he is classed as ex league of Ireland as any of the top clubs will have their quota filled.. and is that what it takes to catch fairview and pike a rule change? pike fairview Boro have earned the right to be the top clubs as it took years to build tradition and the vision to have a bar shower and dressing rooms and quality playing surfaces and yet clubs who havnt the tradition or the facilities to attract the best players come together with a stupid rule to even things out.. it takes time lads and hard work to be a top club not a rule change that stops genuine lads old and young from playing football in this town.. the rule should have been any current league of Ireland senior player cannot play junior when their season ends in November until the following august..
Thats a very good point have any of the clubs put in a motion for an E.G.M. to be called to amend the rule.

hoops38
25/06/2011, 5:54 PM
We got some from Junior very little from Pike recently id say.

Who in Pikes squad came up through the Pike ranks?

Do Pike and other big junior teams go around thanking the smaller junior teams whos players they take as you seem to want Limerick to do?

Its called progressing and taking a step up you step up from the small junior teams to the likes of Fairview and Pike if your good enough then you step up from that to LOI if your good enough.

Read Jofs post says it all really.

did limerick ever thank pike for keeping them in football,when everyone else in this town turned their backs on limerick was it not pike that provided them with a field,a groundsman and on occassions a kitman ,and before u ask it was all free of charge because limerick had nothing,so i dont think pike need to be grateful to limerick for anything

theboywonder8
25/06/2011, 6:04 PM
They forget all that,they very small memories,they're all saying it will be great to have bar facilities,when they had one in pike they wouldn't even go in,or rathbane for that matter.

hoops38
25/06/2011, 6:09 PM
They forget all that,they very small memories,they're all saying it will be great to have bar facilities,when they had one in pike they wouldn't even go in,or rathbane for that matter.

the only time they came in was to collect their share of the gate

Horse24
25/06/2011, 6:50 PM
Lads, Are yellow cards fines applied in all Limerick leagues?

Jofspring
25/06/2011, 7:35 PM
Ye are a gas shower. Ye are starting an arguement from nothing lads. Show me where we have said Pike have never done anything for Limerick. Show me where we have said any club in Limerick has never done anything for Limerick.

I love all this short memory stuff. No one has said anything about Pike never doing anything for Limerick but some how we suddenly have short memories and would want to realise what Pike have done for Limerick. Grow up lads and stop trying to make arguements out of nothing.

This discussion was about players progressing from one club to another if it meant going up a level i.e lower division junior, up to premier and up to LOI but some how ye turned it into Limerick vs Pike.

Fairkop
25/06/2011, 11:07 PM
jofspring,despairingly some of us have to put up with a few supporters of one of the big clubs on these forums,these ..supporters have what i would term a ...tourist..approach.they jumped on the orient express a while back not knowing its real history and as you can see are babbling away like they have been on it for all its long existence.its a pity such a great history is being tarnished by a few,however its image will be saved ,the good will prevail.

theboywonder8
26/06/2011, 11:01 AM
jofspring,despairingly some of us have to put up with a few supporters of one of the big clubs on these forums,these ..supporters have what i would term a ...tourist..approach.they jumped on the orient express a while back not knowing its real history and as you can see are babbling away like they have been on it for all its long existence.its a pity such a great history is being tarnished by a few,however its image will be saved ,the good will prevail.
Hahaha,don't read them then,you're some tourist ain't you,

lfc at heart
26/06/2011, 8:31 PM
Irish junior internation team beat russia 2-1, they are now in the final

nononsense
26/06/2011, 9:09 PM
Irish junior internation team beat russia 2-1, they are now in the final

Yes, came from behind for a marvellous win. (Actually its the Irish Amateur International team i.e. players who never played LOI). Three St.Michaels players involved, Chalky Walsh, who captains the team, Chris Higgins and Paul Breen. They now play Portugal in the final on Tuesday.

nosebleds
26/06/2011, 11:06 PM
jofspring,despairingly some of us have to put up with a few supporters of one of the big clubs on these forums,these ..supporters have what i would term a ...tourist..approach.they jumped on the orient express a while back not knowing its real history and as you can see are babbling away like they have been on it for all its long existence.its a pity such a great history is being tarnished by a few,however its image will be saved ,the good will prevail.

Agreed,the orient reached its objective,thats over, wheels geting greased and ready for year on the road.Good luck to all involved.

bald eagle
27/06/2011, 11:59 AM
I am glad to give this rule change a decent go,and if we're not happy with how its running then we can propose a switch back to the old way. That is unless someone tries to use some version of the Bosman ruling and claim breach of His right to free movement, with His rights interfered with, by the LDMC rule. Not so far fetched as you might think, what with ALL the money that SOME clubs have at their disposal. Jaysus I hope I didn't put ideas in someones head, someone with bottomless pockets.

lfc at heart
04/07/2011, 9:27 PM
Yes, came from behind for a marvellous win. (Actually its the Irish Amateur International team i.e. players who never played LOI). Three St.Michaels players involved, Chalky Walsh, who captains the team, Chris Higgins and Paul Breen. They now play Portugal in the final on Tuesday.

just heard that 2 irish Players were included in the Ueafa regions cup team of the Tournament, they are Ray Whelehan and James Chalky Walsh, Chalky is on fire at the moment and cant see him stepping down from international soccer for a long time to come yet, weldone to both of them, some achievement

Fairkop
04/07/2011, 10:09 PM
reading the STAR,s reports on the games both these players seemed to be the pick of the bunch alright,fair play to them and tbf walsh has always been an outstanding centre half.