Transfer Rumours - Summer 2011

[CraftyToePoke]

Shane Long to Leicester according to Sven, if he can fend off all the Premiership interest in the player.

http://www.dailymail...o=feeds-newsxml


Leicester are ready to table a £7million bid for Reading striker Shane Long as boss Sven Goran Eriksson bids to beat off competition from the Barclays Premier League for the prolific hitman.
Championship rivals West Ham had a bid totalling £7m for the Republic of Ireland forward rejected, but it seems Eriksson has persuaded the club’s wealthy Thai owners to stump up the cash for Long.
It will take Eriksson’s spending on new players to more than £15m and the spree is not yet over as the East Midlands club bid to return to the Premier League.

£7m bid: Long (left) has been targeted by Leicester
Eriksson is also interested in signing Rotherham forward Adam Le Fondre.
Newcastle and West Bromwich are also interested in Long, who scored 44 goals in 94 Championship starts for Reading, 24 of them last season

[gastric]

I'm probably behind the times but has he actually declared for us yet?

I have read from several sources that he has certainly declared for us, but it seems our Northern neighbours have designs on him. The sheer audacity!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A76945558http://www.northernireland-mad.co.uk/arsenal/player/season_141/rhys_murphy_59941/index.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A76945558http://www.northernireland-mad.co.uk/arsenal/player/season_141/rhys_murphy_59941/index.shtml)

[tetsujin1979]

I have read from several sources that he has certainly declared for us, but it seems our Northern neighbours have designs on him. The sheer audacity!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A76945558
http://www.northernireland-mad.co.uk/arsenal/player/season_141/rhys_murphy_59941/index.shtml
fixed those two links for you

I wouldn't worry about the link on northernireland-mad, any football mad site (e.g. reading mad, celtic mad, liverpool mad, ireland mad, etc) displays the player stats, with all the site dressing for that club, regardless of their actual affiliation
here's Robbie Keane on Northern Ireland mad: http://www.northernireland-mad.co.uk/tottenham_hotspur/player/season_141/robbie_keane_1710/index.shtml
Or Conor Clifford with Reading: http://www.reading-mad.co.uk/chelsea/player/season_140/conor_clifford_90444/index.shtml

[gastric]

Thanks Tets. Keith Andrews has supposedly turned down a move to Leeds while Forest still remain interested.

[jbyrne]

Thanks Tets. Keith Andrews has supposedly turned down a move to Leeds while Forest still remain interested.

and Ipswich on loan i heard

[bohsRap]

O'Dea might be going to Leeds on a season long loan:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11715_7079313,00.html

Not a bad move at all.

[theworm2345]

Joe Lapira on trial at his old club Nybergsund

[gastric]

Worm, you are the only who seems to follow Joe's career and it is great how you consistently update us on his world travels. You are a bit like a worm with the bit between his teeth!

[DannyInvincible]

Robbie Keane (or David Bentley or Sebastien Bassong) being offered to Blackburn plus £10 million in exchange for Christopher Samba, according to the Sun and the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2021843/Tottenham-Arsenal-race-sign-Christopher-Samba.html

There's little more than a line about Juventus being ready to bid for Kevin Doyle here: http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2011/08/03/latest-transfer-rumours-%E2%80%93-august-3-2/

Wasn't that rumour doing the rounds a few weeks ago?

[theworm2345]

Worm, you are the only who seems to follow Joe's career and it is great how you consistently update us on his world travels. You are a bit like a worm with the bit between his teeth!
Thanks? I feel it is my duty to not let anyone forget about a period (and player) that can only be referred to as "The Shame." No matter what Trap does just remember it can almost certainly be worse.

P.S. Do worms have teeth?

[CraftyToePoke]

Wasn't that rumour doing the rounds a few weeks ago?

It was I think, the hand of Trap was upon it if I recall. Just like it was on Alex Bruce one time.

[theworm2345]

Read today Rob Elliot being linked with Newcastle

[paul_oshea]

Read keano is on his way to la

[CraftyToePoke]

Read keano is on his way to la

Doubt it Paul.

[BonnieShels]

Can't see it happening.
MLS? MUCK! He should got to a good hardy English Championship club.

[Closed Account]

Read today Rob Elliot being linked with Newcastle
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/football-league-blog/2011/aug/19/football-league-weekend-preview


Players to watch

• Rob Elliot: the Charlton goalkeeper has conceded just a solitary goal en route to the top of League One. But now the rub: manager Chris Powell faces losing his No1 before the end of the month, with Newcastle leading the chase. "I can't stop anyone from having ambitions to play higher because I've been there as a player in my past," admitted Powell.

[Junior]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/football-league-blog/2011/aug/19/football-league-weekend-preview

Celtic signed Frazer Foster on loan from Newcastle again in the last day or so - So makes sense the Geordies want to fill that slot.

[Stuttgart88]

I'll reference the sources later, but there were a few reports during the week that Arsenal want Kevin Doyle to replace Bendtner.

[p2011]

Yesterday's Guardian talking about Kevin Doyle to Arsenal again...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/18/football-transfer-rumours-kevin-doyle-arsenal

[Closed Account]

http://www.cafc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10267~2425761,00.html
Further info about Rob Elliott


Charlton have rejected an offer from Newcastle United for goalkeeper Rob Elliot, and have protested to the Premier League about the Magpies' conduct.
Newcastle made a formal written bid of £100,000 for the 25-year-old custodian on Wednesday, which was immediately rejected by Charlton.
"The offer was rejected within minutes, and Newcastle then confirmed they no longer had an interest in the player. "

[elroy]

I'll reference the sources later, but there were a few reports during the week that Arsenal want Kevin Doyle to replace Bendtner.

His peno miss last week wouldnt have helped his chances. Might be something in it, as Wenger needs to get players in quick but doesnt seem to be having much luck so far.

[SkStu]

I presume this Rob Elliott character is eligible for Ireland? Dont think ive heard of him before now?

[DannyInvincible]

I presume this Rob Elliott character is eligible for Ireland? Dont think ive heard of him before now?

Not familiar with him myself, although I do note that the 'international' section of his Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Elliot) states very simply and forthrightly:


International

Elliot made his international debut for the Republic of Ireland Under 19 team.

Who could argue with that?

[BonnieShels]

The IFA for one.

[elroy]

With the Keane and Longs move now done and dusted, are we likely to see any of our lads move in the last few hectic days of the window?

More talk of Doyle to Arsenal again, but very unlikely.

Gibson may move, to where, who knows!

[CraftyToePoke]

With the Keane and Longs move now done and dusted, are we likely to see any of our lads move in the last few hectic days of the window?

Duffy and Clifford but I suppose both those will be loans so may not happen just yet, but will be interesting ones, Championship for both probably.

With young guys like McCann, Rooney, O'Brien, Brady, Mason, Kendrick having started well this season, that division will be worth keeping an eye on, also O'Brien in the side at West Ham, Clarke at Blackpool, Garvan featuring for Palace and Dicker stepping up with Brighton, you never know, a couple of more options will hopefully emerge.

[Eminence Grise]

Gibson may move, to where, who knows!

Around midfield, with purpose and vigour, would be a start!

[Charlie Darwin]

Duffy and Clifford but I suppose both those will be loans so may not happen just yet, but will be interesting ones, Championship for both probably.

With young guys like McCann, Rooney, O'Brien, Brady, Mason, Kendrick having started well this season, that division will be worth keeping an eye on, also O'Brien in the side at West Ham, Clarke at Blackpool, Garvan featuring for Palace and Dicker stepping up with Brighton, you never know, a couple of more options will hopefully emerge.
Clifford mentioned Hamburg a few weeks ago. Chelsea have some sort of exchange deal with them similar to Man United's with Antwerp.

[Closed Account]

Gibson may move, to where, who knows!
Blackburn Rovers rumours are resurrfacing.
http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/blackburn-rovers-fc/1210275-blackburn-rovers-close-in-manchester-united-midfielder-gibson.html

[Stuttgart88]

Gibson to Villa?

Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2029392/Aston-Villa-want-Manchester-Uniteds-Darron-Gibson.html)

[BonnieShels]

Better move than Blackburn.

[Murfinator]

Villa have their captain Petrov, the young and promising Delph and Bannan as well as the potentially talented Stephen Ireland competing for 2 midfield spots at the moment. They've hogg as well making up the numbers. I can't see them wanting another and if they did I don't honestly see Gibson winning the battle against them for a starting spot.

[paul_oshea]

I honestly think half the managers in the EPL don't have a clue.

They automatically think cos ferguson brought gibson through the ranks that he must be a gem of some sort. If i were a premiership manager and based on anything I have seen of him on those games, I would not be looking to bring him in.

[Stuttgart88]

I actually think Gibson is OK, though I think he could do with a week's training with Leinster rugby to teach him a thing or two about getting physical.

[SwanVsDalton]

Villa have their captain Petrov, the young and promising Delph and Bannan as well as the potentially talented Stephen Ireland competing for 2 midfield spots at the moment. They've hogg as well making up the numbers. I can't see them wanting another and if they did I don't honestly see Gibson winning the battle against them for a starting spot.

Makoun too, with Clark occasionally filling in.

Having said that McLeish has been looking for an athletic midfielder for sometime - linked to Parker, Barton etc. Petrov rarely has 90 minutes in him anymore, Delph is young and Makoun may get sold on. Hogg won't make it. Bannan and Ireland wouldn't suit that role. So I can see why they're looking at Gibson - even though Darron rarely appears particularly athletic.

[Charlie Darwin]

I'd have thought Gibson would be competing with Petrov - they're similar types of player.

[paul_oshea]

Makoun too, with Clark occasionally filling in.

Having said that McLeish has been looking for an athletic midfielder for sometime - linked to Parker, Barton etc. Petrov rarely has 90 minutes in him anymore, Delph is young and Makoun may get sold on. Hogg won't make it. Bannan and Ireland wouldn't suit that role. So I can see why they're looking at Gibson - even though Darron rarely appears particularly athletic.

Gibson as an athletic midfielder?

You must have a very different definition of athletic to me.

[SwanVsDalton]

Gibson as an athletic midfielder?

You must have a very different definition of athletic to me.

Nope. Do you read everything half-way?


Makoun too, with Clark occasionally filling in.

Having said that McLeish has been looking for an athletic midfielder for sometime - linked to Parker, Barton etc. Petrov rarely has 90 minutes in him anymore, Delph is young and Makoun may get sold on. Hogg won't make it. Bannan and Ireland wouldn't suit that role. So I can see why they're looking at Gibson - even though Darron rarely appears particularly athletic.

[paul_oshea]

Nope even if you hyphenate at the end to try and somewhat qualify what you said the whole statement then makes no sense.

LIke any good point well made, you use the TDT approach, the subject i.e. looking for an athletic midfielder, you give reasons as to why that is the subject i.e. the reasons why he is looking for an athletic midfielder given those currently at his disposal/available, you then conclude your point by saying "so i can see why they're looking at Gibson......

If your qualification at the end is your actual conclusion then you wouldn't or at least shouldn't have bothered with that paragraph and just left a blank.

[SwanVsDalton]

Nope even if you hyphenate at the end to try and somewhat qualify what you said the whole statement then makes no sense.

LIke any good point well made, you use the TDT approach, the subject i.e. looking for an athletic midfielder, you give reasons as to why that is the subject i.e. the reasons why he is looking for an athletic midfielder given those currently at his disposal/available, you then conclude your point by saying "so i can see why they're looking at Gibson......

If your qualification at the end is your actual conclusion then you wouldn't or at least shouldn't have bothered with that paragraph and just left a blank.

The statement makes complete sense. There are two conclusions. First - Villa are looking for an athletic type midfielder which Gibson is by reputation at least. He'd widely be considered to have an all-round game, can play defensively and burst forward and hit a decent pass. That's a objective assessment of why Villa could be linked to him.

The second conclusion is he isn't particularly athletic. That's a subjective assessment of his actual abilities. It was a throwaway FNAR FNAR. It wasn't particularly funny. But it doesn't invalidate the previous conclusion since they are not contradictory as one is Villa's possible view and the other is my own.

An example: If I'd said 'Oxford University are looking for an O'Shea to give sentence construction seminars, for x reasons, so they've been linked to paul_oshea' but then ended the par with 'but paul_oshea rarely constructs a good sentences' then it would still make perfect sense. :)

I don't know who I'm more miffed at - you, Paul, for provoking me, or me for taking the bait and spelling that out.

[paul_oshea]

An example: If I'd said 'Oxford University are looking for an O'Shea to give sentence construction seminars, for x reasons, so they've been linked to paul_oshea' but then ended the par with 'but paul_oshea rarely constructs a good sentences' then it would still make perfect sense. :)

I don't know who I'm more miffed at - you, Paul, for provoking me, or me for taking the bait and spelling that out.

Well if they were I would hope an institution such as Oxford would at least get the structure, semantics and syntax right if they were looking at me....

I still stick by what I said, you started off with Villa looking for an athletic player, finished with thats why you can see they are looking at Darron. You're almost as bad as geysir trying to refute it. :)

[SwanVsDalton]

Well if they were I would hope an institution such as Oxford would at least get the structure, semantics and syntax right if they were looking at me...

You never cease to amaze. Picking out a random typo and then following it up with this number...


I still stick by what I said, you started off with Villa looking for an athletic player, finished with thats why you can see they are looking at Darron. You're almost as bad as geysir trying to refute it. :)

Astonishing. Anyway no wonder you're sticking with your view, you totally ignored my explanation. As my previous post step-by-stepped, that is not simply what I said but, hey, I had a go at spelling it out. Ultimately I'm glad you ignored the explanation as it might result in you altering your, eh, inimitable writing style. And this place gets too boring for that.

Transfer rumours?

[paul_oshea]

Attack the post not the poster. SVD. Come on you know the rules :)

And I don't know what step-by-stepped(in the usage above) means either.

Anyway as you say lets not take over this thread about whether or not you think Gibson is an Athletic footballer or not, or whether villa are potentially buying him as an Athletic footballer or not, whether or not he (ever/never) appears to be this type of player and just focus as you rightly say on actual transfer rumours.

Has anything come of the Doyle one, the fact that McCarthy came out the exact same day as this broke suggests there was some truth in it or someone was potentially interested and the papers got it wrong. By all accounts though Mccarthy isn't going to sell. Which leads me to the next point I've been dwelling about, a lot of people seem to have this c2 year window where a footballer is at their peak and thats it, then after that they are over the hill almost, doyle is now 27, to me to fit in with this belief he would be reaching his peak and has only a couple/possibly 3 years at the top, and therefore if he is ever to make it(not exactly sure how we define this) he needs to move now.

[SwanVsDalton]

Attack the post not the poster. SVD. Come on you know the rules :)

Forum rules or sentence rules? And I don't think I did attack you, but apologies if you feel offended.


And I don't know what step-by-stepped(in the usage above) means either.

It's just 'step-by-step' in verb form. I probably made it up and, before you or anyone says, I'm sure it's prescriptively incorrect. Ah well.


Anyway as you say lets not take over this thread about whether or not you think Gibson is an Athletic footballer or not, or whether villa are potentially buying him as an Athletic footballer or not, whether or not he (ever/never) appears to be this type of player and just focus as you rightly say on actual transfer rumours.

This is the first time you've come (relatively) close to representing what I said correctly, much obliged. :)


Has anything come of the Doyle one, the fact that McCarthy came out the exact same day as this broke suggests there was some truth in it or someone was potentially interested and the papers got it wrong. By all accounts though Mccarthy isn't going to sell. Which leads me to the next point I've been dwelling about, a lot of people seem to have this c2 year window where a footballer is at their peak and thats it, then after that they are over the hill almost, doyle is now 27, to me to fit in with this belief he would be reaching his peak and has only a couple/possibly 3 years at the top, and therefore if he is ever to make it(not exactly sure how we define this) he needs to move now.

Doyle would have to push for the move and, problem is, he still wouldn't command a regular first-team place in a big club (top four) right now. A stellar season at Wolves could change that.

[Kingdom]

Doyler could be helped by the fact that he hasn't been worn down by the daily grind in Italy since he was 15/16. Plus he's another one of our gems who isn't lightning fast, which will help stave off obvious decline that bit more.

He wouldn't get a look in at United, City, Chelsea, but outside of that there isn't a whole lot of difference, Arsenal perhaps he could struggle at, but he would be capable at any of the others, and numerous European clubs if he so wished.

[gastric]

As mentioned in other threads, Gibson has picked up an injury and this may scupper any hope of a transfer in this window.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2030242/Darron-Gibsons-Aston-Villa-doubt-ankle-injury.html

[SwanVsDalton]

Hearing today Bellamy could be heading back to Liverpool on a free. Would surely exclude any move for Doyle.

[theworm2345]

Terry Dixon on trial at Bradford, scored the winner for their reserve team against Rotherham's reserve team.

[gastric]

Terry Dixon on trial at Bradford, scored the winner for their reserve team against Rotherham's reserve team.

Dixon is a bit like Lazarus, he comes coming back to life and tempts us to believe that he could be an okay footballer!

[theworm2345]

Dixon is a bit like Lazarus, he comes coming back to life and tempts us to believe that he could be an okay footballer!
By all accounts he could...if he gets his head right.