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Shilts
06/09/2011, 2:48 PM
I'm not from the MFA but will give my opinion. As I understand, any player who hasn't played more than 5 games at Senior level this season would be eligible to play in this junior cup competition.
So because Douglas Hall's senior team have not played 5 games yet this season, then ALL their senior team are eligible to play on saturday in the junior competition?
Surely not!!!
Bobby D
06/09/2011, 2:53 PM
So because Douglas Hall's senior team have not played 5 games yet this season, then ALL their senior team are eligible to play on saturday in the junior competition?
Surely not!!!
That only counts if the first game they played was with the jnr team, if the first match they played was with the snr team well then they have to play the snr cup.
Shilts
06/09/2011, 3:38 PM
It would be good if the MFA would clarify the situation though!
nononsense
06/09/2011, 6:32 PM
So because Douglas Hall's senior team have not played 5 games yet this season, then ALL their senior team are eligible to play on saturday in the junior competition?
Surely not!!!
In my opinion if Douglas Hall senior team have not played 5 games yet this season then, yes, all their senior team are eligible to play on Saturday in the junior competition.
In my opinion if Douglas Hall senior team have not played 5 games yet this season then, yes, all their senior team are eligible to play on Saturday in the junior competition.
If this is the case then it makes a mockery of another Junior competition.
Shilts
07/09/2011, 2:28 PM
In my opinion if Douglas Hall senior team have not played 5 games yet this season then, yes, all their senior team are eligible to play on Saturday in the junior competition.
Ouch!!!
nononsense
07/09/2011, 5:31 PM
Ouch!!!
Shilts, this is my personal opinion. I may be wrong but that is how I see it. Perhaps a phonecall to MFA will clarify. Would like to know am I correct. I am not familiar with the Munster Senior League but good on the rules. Anyway, surely Douglas Hall wouldn't put out their senior team. That wouldn't be fair on the junior team.
nononsense
11/09/2011, 6:24 PM
1st round results
Clonmel Town 3 Newmarket Celtic 0.
Killarney Celtic 2 Nenagh AfC 1.
Kinsale 2 Douglas Hall 0.
Abbeyfeale 0 Bunratty (West Cork) 1.
all results to form except the abbeyfeale result. they should be beating west cork league opposition
southern kid
12/09/2011, 9:21 PM
From what i heard abbeyfeale were missing 5 or 6 due to gaa.they obviously were not 2 interested in this comp,
JA023
13/09/2011, 12:17 AM
all results to form except the abbeyfeale result. they should be beating west cork league opposition
Why should abbeyfeale be beating west cork league opposition? Excuses of Gaa don't wash, a good performance by a WCL team who are only just getting going in their season, well done Bunratty, watch out Pike :)
limkdesmond
13/09/2011, 9:03 AM
Abbeyfeale utd were missing 7 players due to gaa..they are favourites to win the county football as they are in the county semi final and were told not to play against bunratty..a handy draw for pike in the next round
Mission Bell
13/09/2011, 9:22 AM
Abbeyfeale utd were missing 7 players due to gaa..they are favourites to win the county football as they are in the county semi final and were told not to play against bunratty..a handy draw for pike in the next round
Told not to play? By whom?
southern kid
13/09/2011, 9:06 PM
told not to play by their gaa manager, its the players i blame in dat situation, grow some balls like an play if that what the player wants.its happening all the time in west limerick.
Mission Bell
14/09/2011, 8:19 AM
told not to play by their gaa manager, its the players i blame in dat situation, grow some balls like an play if that what the player wants.its happening all the time in west limerick.
Thought as much. What a shame.
When a chance comes for a club to pit themselves against the better teams something like this happens. It's the guys who run the these clubs and have worked hard to make football available for people who I feel sorry for.
However, I agree with you that if a guy wants to play football and is told not to do so because of another code it does not say much for him.
nononsense
14/09/2011, 9:33 AM
Thought as much. What a shame.
When a chance comes for a club to pit themselves against the better teams something like this happens. It's the guys who run the these clubs and have worked hard to make football available for people who I feel sorry for.
However, I agree with you that if a guy wants to play football and is told not to do so because of another code it does not say much for him.
Agree with you. Fact of the matter though is most players involved in both codes, gaa and soccer, gaa will get first choice. Its a cultural thing, bred into the brain from schooldays e.g. the national game, for the parish, etc etc. It will always be that way, especially in rural areas. Sadly, in this case, it shows disrespect to this new and prestigious competition.
First
14/09/2011, 10:20 AM
Agree with you. Fact of the matter though is most players involved in both codes, gaa and soccer, gaa will get first choice. Its a cultural thing, bred into the brain from schooldays e.g. the national game, for the parish, etc etc. It will always be that way, especially in rural areas. Sadly, in this case, it shows disrespect to this new and prestigious competition.
We also had the same issue last week where players chose hurling over football but that is their decision. When you sign players who are involved in both codes then that is the chance you take. We fulfilled the fixture with the lads available to us, and they gave a very good account of themselves. We would love to have travelled with a full squad to choose from because if we did we would be still in it.
Dual codes will always clash and imo the players themselves will decide what they do on the day.
Pressure being applied from either faction is unfair.
Mission Bell
14/09/2011, 10:33 AM
We also had the same issue last week where players chose hurling over football but that is their decision. When you sign players who are involved in both codes then that is the chance you take. We fulfilled the fixture with the lads available to us, and they gave a very good account of themselves. We would love to have travelled with a full squad to choose from because if we did we would be still in it.
Dual codes will always clash and imo the players themselves will decide what they do on the day.
Pressure being applied from either faction is unfair.
I understand and the fact that in rural areas, especially, you dont have the pick available in urban centres.
That is one of the main reasons why lads from the country go and join the bigger clubs because football is the number one.
limkdesmond
14/09/2011, 4:11 PM
It's a pity really for the other abbeyfeale players who wanted to win the game and now missed their chance to play pike rovers in the next round
Shilts
03/10/2011, 1:16 PM
QFinal
Tile King v Kinsale
Sat 2.30 ko
Big game this weekend for us.
We've never come across Tile King before so I don't know how good they are.
We will be giving them plenty of respect though.
Any league champions would be dangerous on their own turf.
Shilts
08/10/2011, 3:54 PM
Tile King 1
Kinsale 8
Quite a mismatch here.
This game was done and dusted early on and was blown up with 20 mins left.
Great to make it to the semis tho :)
twohalves
09/10/2011, 3:44 PM
Pike rovers 2-1 Bunratty (Cork).
prawnsandwich2
10/10/2011, 8:06 AM
Pike not at the races today saying that alot of players rested (boyle,boris,tierney,moloney)enright out with three broking toes out for two or three months i say.(hammer fell on leg at work)
big loss for pike if true.
was outstanding against the boro a few weeks back.
young byrnes will probably go in there.
hotspur
10/10/2011, 12:44 PM
Was the draw for the next round made?
theboywonder8
10/10/2011, 12:50 PM
Was the draw for the next round made?
Pike play winners of clonmel town and Killarney Celtic,TSDL played OT yesterday so I presume that's why it didn't go ahead yesterday,according to tsdl forum though it was a St michaels selection against cork,players from St michaels B were called into the squad.
fifty50
10/10/2011, 12:52 PM
Pike not at the races today saying that alot of players rested (boyle,boris,tierney,moloney)enright out with three broking toes out for two or three months i say.(hammer fell on leg at work)
enright was not involved in any accident at work and was walking just fine today
nononsense
10/10/2011, 1:25 PM
Was the draw for the next round made?
Clonmel Town play Killarney Celtic on October 23rd in second round.
Shilts
10/10/2011, 2:43 PM
Has the semi-final draw been made yet?
theboywonder8
10/10/2011, 4:05 PM
Has the semi-final draw been made yet?
Ya pike play winners of clonmel match,and I presume carrick and ntdl and cork aul are on the other side of draw,
Shilts
18/10/2011, 10:21 AM
Semi Draw
Kinsale v Clomel Town or Killarney Celtic
At Cork venue nominated by MFA
Carrick Utd. v Pike Rovers
At Waterford venue nominated by MFA
cufc champions
25/10/2011, 8:16 AM
Im looking forward to the Pike game in Ozier park, we are not as strong as a couple of years back after losing McSharry and Coady but are still competitive and are looking to a big test early on in the season against last years FAI Junior Cup winners. This competiton is probably low down on the list of priorities of both teams but with a potential final in the offing Im expecting a decent compeitive game in 3 weeks time.
Shilts
27/10/2011, 9:45 AM
Was the Clonmel Town v Killarney Celtic QF played last weekend?
What was the result?
balls
27/10/2011, 11:34 AM
its being played this sunday in clonmel shilts
Sunday 30-10-2011
1/4 FINAL Result
Clonmel Town 0-0 Killarney Celtic, Killarney Celtic won 4-3 on penalties after extra time.
great win for killarney not many teams come out of the complex with a result
Shilts
01/11/2011, 4:31 PM
Semi Final
Kinsale v Killarney Celtic
Turners Cross, Cork
Sat 12 November 7.30 PM
Munster Champions Cup quarterfinal Match Report
Clonmel Town 0 Killarney Celtic 0
(Celtic win 4-3 on penalties after extra time)
This Munster Champions Trophy quarter final started at whirlwind speed with both sides forcing a number of corners.
Stephen Hayes was the first to get a shot on target following one of these but Burke in the Clonmel goal saved easily.
In what would be a pattern for the first half hour the home side broke quickly and Conor Connelly sat up Jimmy Hayes but the Celtic defence got back just in time.
Connolly himself was next to try his luck but David Hayes did well to get in a block.
It was a wide open game at this stage and Packie O’Connor and Hayes combines to set up G Paketarus but his effort was wide.
At the other end Bartlett did very well to smother a Tynon effort and his long ball sent G in but he couldn’t take advantage of the chance.
In the 30th minute Stephen Hayes volleyed over and little did we know what would happen in the next 5 minutes to totally change the game.
Ronan Stanley and Gary Keane had a coming together and the Clonmel Town player kicked out at the Keane as he was walking away. The referee flashed a straight red
to the consternation of the home side. Before they could catch their breath they lost another player when the ‘red mist’ descended on Niall Kelly and he lashed out at Celtic defender to
join Stanley in the early showers.
This should have been the signal for Celtic to dominate and the pushed three up front but Clonmel ended the half with the better chances as Walsh and Connolly went close.
Half time gave Clonmel the break to re organise and this they did admirably. For the rest of normal time the frustrated Celtic who had a distinct lack of clear cut chances against the 9 men.
Celtic did start the second period very brightly with Terrance Moriarty pushing on and getting crosses into the box.
One found Chris Davies lurking but he volleyed over while Moriarty put in a free kick which Burke fumbled but there was no Celtic player on hand to finish.
Clonmel Town had settled at this stage to keep it tight and to try on rare occasions to hit Celtic on the break. Hynes did get in at one stage on the by-line but Bartlett was out smartly to avert the danger.
Celtic made changes with Stephen Devane (who didn’t start as he was feeling ill) and Billy Goulding coming in for Brian Spillane and Chris Davies.
Watson and Moriarty were finding a lot of space on the wings and putting in cross after cross but to the credit of the Clonmel Town back four and keeper they dealt with everything the visitors could throw at them.
Extra time came and went without much change with Clonmel Town creating one good chance when Hynes cross was flicked on to Scully but he shot wide.
Clonmel rang the changes and brought in Levi Walsh and Shane Flynn who had just won a County Minor title at lunch time and they gave fresh energy to a tiring Clonmel side.
For Celtic they did put together one great move at pace – something they should have done a lot more of. Stephen Hayes raided down the right wing, crossed deep to Watson who
knocked it back to the in rushing Peter McCarthy but from ten yards he was not able to keep his shot on target and so onto the dreaded penalties.
Celtic went first with McCarthy scoring. Scully levelled it at 1 a piece but Stephen Hayes put Celtic in front again. Tynan then missed for Clonmel to hand the advantage to Celtic.
Stephen Devane took that advantage to make it 3-1 before Loughnane pulled one back. David Hayes then seemed to change his mind and his kick went just the wrong side of the post
to give Whelan the chance to level matters at 3-3.
Robert Watson showed ice cold nerves to slot home thee final penalty for Celtic meaning Tim Hynes had to score to keep his side in the game.
He hit a decent penalty to Bartlett’s right but the Celtic keeper dived full length to turn the ball around the post to the relief of all in The Hoops!!
Celtic now goes on to meet Kinsale at a Cork venue in the Last 4. They will be very relieved to get over a very well drilled, fit and dangerous Clonmel Town side
that didn’t let the loss of two players affect them. They are used to their narrow pitch and used this to their advantage.
From a Celtic point of view they battled hard and were very tight at the back but did lack a few ideas and some creativity but in Cup competitions it’s only the
result that matters and its Killarney Celtic that will play in the semi final while Clonmel will wonder what might have been.
Killarney Celtic: St Bartlett, Chris Davies, David Hayse,Brian Spillane, Terrence Moriarty, Gary Keane, Packie O’Connor, Robert Watson, Peter McCarthy, G Paketarus, Stephen Hayes.
Subs used: Billy Goulding and Stephen Devane, unused Thomas Templeman and Alex Courtney.
Clonmel Town.
Darren Burke, Adrian Cleere, Derek Loughnane, Raymond Condon, Ronnie Stanley, Tony Scully, Conor Connolly, Eoin Walsh, Timmy Hynes, Martin Tynan, Niall Kelly.
Subs used Shane Flynn and Levi Whelan.
Semi Final
Kinsale 1-1 Killarney Celtic,
Killarney Celtic won 5-4 on penalties AET.
Turners Cross, Cork
cufc champions
13/11/2011, 4:08 PM
Carrick 1 Pike Rovers 0
Keith Walsh scored for Carrick half way through the first half with a well taken volley. Pike pushed hard second half with their left winger leading the charge with a great display but they could not break down the Carrick defence and when they did get past them, they couldn't beat the excellent Adrian Walsh in goal. Carrick were without John Walsh and two strikers Alan Coady and Glenn Keane. This forced then to play 4-5-1 which worked very well today. Great result for Carrick.
Mission Bell
13/11/2011, 5:51 PM
Carrick 1 Pike Rovers 0
Keith Walsh scored for Carrick half way through the first half with a well taken volley. Pike pushed hard second half with their left winger leading the charge with a great display but they could not break down the Carrick defence and when they did get past them, they couldn't beat the excellent Adrian Walsh in goal. Carrick were without John Walsh and two strikers Alan Coady and Glenn Keane. This forced then to play 4-5-1 which worked very well today. Great result for Carrick.
Yes, great performance from the Carrick lads today. With many of last year's Munster Senior Cup winning team departed and minus some regulars it was a major test of the squad.
However there's nothing won yet.
great win for carrick, no better team to be the 1st winners of the competion. they will definatly start as favourates in the final. will the final be on in a neutral venue or whats happening
Second
14/11/2011, 7:29 AM
Anyone have pike line up
blinkx
14/11/2011, 9:38 AM
Anyone have pike line up
Pike : Neville, Ahern, Enright, Mullins, Donovan, Borris, Tierney, Kavanagh, Carroll, Boyle, Moloney
Loving the missing players stuff lads.. I'm sure if Carrick had the 10 or so missing players in the lineup they would have hammered Barcelona never mind Pike..
Getting Serious, Thought Pike were very unlucky not to come out the winners yesterday. Deined by some fantastic keeping. Walsh merits being the Junior National Keeper on this outting alone.
Congratulations to Carrick and best of luck in the final lads.
cufc champions
14/11/2011, 11:14 AM
Im under no illusions Pike played the better football, but it was a real case of digging deep for Carrick. There squad is light and not as strong as years gone by, but a win like this will give them a real shot in the arm. We were forced to play a formation we have never played before by losing 2 of our strikers last week. The same two strikers that when combined in the Munster Semi final took the game to Pike from 3-1 down to eventually lead 4-3 and win on pens. Our centre half from last week had to emigrate on Thurday leading a restucting of our back 4. We went to Ozier more in hope of a performance rather than a result but got both. Pike are very very strong and will probably win one of the big two if not both and best of luck to them.
nononsense
14/11/2011, 5:39 PM
great win for carrick, no better team to be the 1st winners of the competion. they will definatly start as favourates in the final. will the final be on in a neutral venue or whats happening
My guess is there will be a toss up for home venue.
the truth
15/11/2011, 8:51 AM
isnt it amazing that this is the same Adrian Walsh who was villified by Mick Ahern and Declan Considine on a live broadcasting of the MJC Final between Carrick and Fairview some years back. if memory serves me right the comment from Mr. Considine was 'that they would give caps to anyone these days'. poetic justice that those words have come back to haunt him. Adrian Walsh has been the best keeper in junior football over the past 10 years and correctly recognised by Smith as being that !!!!
cufc champions
15/11/2011, 10:11 AM
isnt it amazing that this is the same Adrian Walsh who was villified by Mick Ahern and Declan Considine on a live broadcasting of the MJC Final between Carrick and Fairview some years back. if memory serves me right the comment from Mr. Considine was 'that they would give caps to anyone these days'. poetic justice that those words have come back to haunt him. Adrian Walsh has been the best keeper in junior football over the past 10 years and correctly recognised by Smith as being that !!!!
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Mission Bell
15/11/2011, 11:12 AM
isnt it amazing that this is the same Adrian Walsh who was villified by Mick Ahern and Declan Considine on a live broadcasting of the MJC Final between Carrick and Fairview some years back. if memory serves me right the comment from Mr. Considine was 'that they would give caps to anyone these days'. poetic justice that those words have come back to haunt him. Adrian Walsh has been the best keeper in junior football over the past 10 years and correctly recognised by Smith as being that !!!!
Fair comment, an excellent keeper and clubman.
Adrian is a highly respected figure within the game and any praise is well merited. I'm sure that anyone who has seen him play will concur.
He has kept goal for Carrick Utd, Waterford Oscar Traynor and Ireland for many years and has had carried his colours and himself with the utmost dignity at all times.
Well done Adrian!!
no sign of the Pike fans, were are they all gone lol
cufc champions
16/11/2011, 9:39 AM
Not sure what happened here, normally for home games in Carrick grub is put on in a local pub but with the game on in Waterford City this may have being over looked.
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