LoI live on TV

[mypost]

Staying in Dublin for Ireland away games is understandable, but not for games in Galway. Broadcasters that take the national league seriously, send all their crew to the stadium for live games, wherever they are.

[Dunny]

Who gives toss aslong as the game is on tv?!?

[A N Mouse]

Staying in Dublin for Ireland away games is understandable, but not for games in Galway. Broadcasters that take the national league seriously, send all their crew to the stadium for live games, wherever they are.

Seriously?

I realise I risk carpal tunnel syndrome here for nothing, but would you ever listen to yourself?

There are various genuine complaints can be levelled at rte in mns and their live coverage of the league, but I don't believe any of your's can be taken at all seriously.

Are you saying that the bastion of broadcasting that is sky take about half of their sunday coverage seriously?

It's all very well saying they should be there, but at the majority of grounds in the country that means providing a mobile studio, in addition to all the other setup. And for what? Five minutes before the game, same again at half time and if you're lucky five afterwards!

You talk about bbc's coverage of the football league.

How much did they pay for the rights?
How many live games do they show?
Have you watched the show? Notice anything happening when they get outside the championship/big games in league 1/2?

I'll explain the last one for you. The highlights get shorter, discussion and replays become less frequent. Is this because of a lack of interest, or time? Or because they're going from games covered, from multiple angles, by very high-end video equipment through ones covered by a couple of people with merely high-end tech to some bloke with a camcorder (and, at times it would seem, no tripod)?

Any of this sound vaguely familar?

Now I would like to see first division highlights as much as the next fan, but unless every game can be guarenteed to be covered to an agreed standard then it's a wastes of time. And yes some of the best video coverage is in the first division - would this still go on the web if it going to rte?

Also are you actually advocating the highlights be shown at 3-5am on a saturday morning?

I'd much rather we kept mns and had friday night sports back on the radio.

[Charlie Darwin]

Does Terryland even have facilities for a studio show?

[A N Mouse]

Just as an aside. I'm open to correction but I don't remember rte cramming all their games, at the start of the season, into such a short space of time before.

Am I putting two and two together and getting an odd number, or could there be a reason for that? Maybe they were getting in match practice, or something?

[Mr Maroon]

Does Terryland even have facilities for a studio show?

No, but they've done it here before.

[ped_ped]

Just as an aside. I'm open to correction but I don't remember rte cramming all their games, at the start of the season, into such a short space of time before.

Am I putting two and two together and getting an odd number, or could there be a reason for that? Maybe they were getting in match practice, or something?

How do you mean?

[Charlie Darwin]

RTE have some sort of complicated agreement with Setanta to gradually take over all the coverage of LOI, or maybe just most of it. I assume they agreed to let Setanta have the matches during the summer when there's no football from other countries to show.

[mypost]

Are you saying that the bastion of broadcasting that is sky take about half of their sunday coverage seriously?

Their live EPL Sunday coverage is anything from 3 hours-6.5 hours long, depending on how many games are on. RTE's is 2.


It's all very well saying they should be there, but at the majority of grounds in the country that means providing a mobile studio, in addition to all the other setup. And for what? Five minutes before the game, same again at half time and if you're lucky five afterwards!

Last night was the first time I have seen any Irish broadcaster have their presenters sitting in HQ for a domestic game. In our first game in Tallaght, there were no studio facilities of any kind. However, they went out to present the game from the halfway line in the rain, so it's not the lack of a "mobile studio", that's stopping them going out there.


You talk about bbc's coverage of the football league.

How many live games do they show?
Have you watched the show? Notice anything happening when they get outside the championship/big games in league 1/2?

I'll explain the last one for you. The highlights get shorter, discussion and replays become less frequent. Is this because of a lack of interest, or time? Or because they're going from games covered, from multiple angles, by very high-end video equipment through ones covered by a couple of people with merely high-end tech to some bloke with a camcorder (and, at times it would seem, no tripod)?

Sky show most of the live games in English football, with proper promotion and marketing beforehand, presentation and coverage on the night. There is a highlights show on their sports stations, with multiple repeats. Setanta are the closest to that level here. If you want to watch a repeat of RTE's coverage live or highlights though, then it has to be through a PC.

As for the BBC, their live game coverage is decent. Their highlights show may be only once a week, but it covers every single game from all 4 divisions. It doesn't matter that there's no tripod, what does matter is that the game is shown. Pre-1992, the BBC covered 2 games every week on it's MOTD show. Nowadays, every game is shown, with full commentary, and every lower league game is shown afterwards. On the same night. That is comprehensive coverage, and that's what we deserve in our own league. Anything less is frankly, second, third, and fourth-best.

[Dodge]

You sill don't get the economics of it, do you?

Ask yourself WHY we deserve it? And if the answer is anything other than "we just do" or "its our league" then you're lying to yourself

[mypost]

You're more interested in the cost of it all, than what the public should have.

Every broadcast costs money. If that was the only factor, there'd be nothing shown at all.

[A N Mouse]

You're more interested in the cost of it all, than what the public should have.

Every broadcast costs money. If that was the only factor, there'd be nothing shown at all.

The public should have a proper space agency.

You can be in charge of the mission to mars.

[mypost]

RTE This weekend:

10 EPL games, 3 hours of highlights. 15 LOI games, 1 hour highlights.

Priorities, Priorities.....

[hoops1]

Ye viewing figures.

[Dodge]

You're more interested in the cost of it all, than what the public should have.

Every broadcast costs money. If that was the only factor, there'd be nothing shown at all.
Some broadcasts make money.

The LOI ones don't...

[marinobohs]

RTE This weekend:

10 EPL games, 3 hours of highlights. 15 LOI games, 1 hour highlights.

Priorities, Priorities.....

Think we all want more LOI football on TV but comparing with EPL is stupid. better coverage (I think SKY use 15 cameras per game) of the most hyped league in the world ? How the hell can we compete ?
LOI must operate on a stand alone, complimentary basis to EPL - only time I make any headway with barstoolers is the "if you like football so much how come you dont go........".
if you want to do comparison between EPL coverage and that accorded LOI then match the viewing figures alongside them. think it will help you understand the apparent RTE fixation with EPL.

[mypost]

We compare ourselves to the English in many ways, not only on the sports field, with varying degrees of success. But there'd be none at all if we didn't bother.

The average barstooler has wall-to-wall EPL coverage shown in his face, on tap, from multiple stations. He also has about 200 streams of live EPL football available, in case one of the stations happens to miss a game. He only has to wait a few hours max for highlights too. But he has LOI shown in his face, primarily whenever RTE feel like it. Faced with that choice, of course he'll choose free football over live football.

What RTE excel at is the CL and Internationals. Even in difficult economic times, the coverage of it is excellent. So they can do it for LOI, if only they bothered.

[A N Mouse]

We compare ourselves to the English in many ways, not only on the sports field, with varying degrees of success. But there'd be none at all if we didn't bother.

The average barstooler has wall-to-wall EPL coverage shown in his face, on tap, from multiple stations. He also has about 200 streams of live EPL football available, in case one of the stations happens to miss a game. He only has to wait a few hours max for highlights too. But he has LOI shown in his face, primarily whenever RTE feel like it. Faced with that choice, of course he'll choose free football over live football.

What RTE excel at is the CL and Internationals. Even in difficult economic times, the coverage of it is excellent. So they can do it for LOI, if only they bothered.

You have enlightened me, I genuinely didn't realise rte were sending ob crews all over europe each week to cover each and every cl match. And I take it's not really sky and the bbc doing the feeds for the premiership. :D

[Dodge]

Its been pointed out to him several times. He either refuses to acknowledge it, or doesn't believe it

[hoops1]

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

If Mypost posts and no one replies does he cease to exsist?

[marinobohs]

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

If Mypost posts and no one replies does he cease to exsist?

Dont know Hoops 1, but its got to be worth a try :D

[A N Mouse]

Its been pointed out to him several times. He either refuses to acknowledge it, or doesn't believe it

Been informed that, at least for people with dementia, it's best to engage in the delusion.

[mypost]

He either refuses to acknowledge it, or doesn't believe it

Both


If no one replies does he cease to exsist?

No.

[born2bwild]

The world has changed and if this debate changes with it the League of Ireland could benefit enormously. People are still talking about what RTE can do for the LOI. LOI fans - including, or rather, especially, people like those running this website and extratime.ie - need to use the internet as the medium for the promotion of the league. The LOI needs more fans - that much is clear, so go after them. Everyone uses facebook and twitter, everyone uses Google. And these are the places where the league should be promoted.
For example, Foot.ie does not have a facebook page. It should have a facebook page. It's a small thing but it could make a big difference.
Individual LOI clubs should aggressively market the product using the viral marketing, investment in SEO.
Take how quickly the 'the fella in the green and white shirt' went around the country...the internet is the most potent medium out there.
RTE does not really care about the LOI: not only that, but if it is seen to support the LOI too much then the GAA heads will start complaining, so they're never going to push it very hard.
At any rate, the point is, the LOI is the best kept secret in this country; it's up to its supporters to spread the word. RTE usually make a bollock$ of it when they're offered something decent; they rejected Father Ted.

[BonnieShels]

They were never offered Father Ted. Graham Linehan confirmed this several times. Outside of that grievous error I agree with your post.

[bennocelt]

They were never offered Father Ted. Graham Linehan confirmed this several times. Outside of that grievous error I agree with your post.

But the point is a neglect of genuine Irish talent on their doorstep, like the LOI

[Charlie Darwin]

Well it's not really a point at all because it never happened.

[mypost]

Just want to mention Setanta's excellent live coverage of last night's game. They may not cover many games, but when they do, it's excellent work. Detailed analysis, lengthy interviews, extensive pre-game and post-game coverage. Shame the game was poor, but that's out of their hands.

[bullit]

Just want to mention Setanta's excellent live coverage of last night's game. They may not cover many games, but when they do, it's excellent work. Detailed analysis, lengthy interviews, extensive pre-game and post-game coverage. Shame the game was poor, but that's out of their hands.
Oh FFS!! gROW uP ;)

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[sligoman]

Sligo Rovers' home game versus Shamrock Rovers switched to Friday, June 24th, at 7.35pm for TV coverage.

[bullit]

DundalkFC v Galway Utd FAI cup match has been changed from Friday 3rd June to Sunday 5th June with a 3pm KO.Not sure yet if this change is for TV purposes but cant see any other reason for the switch to the Sunday ??
If required, a replay will take place at Terryland Park on Tuesday 7 June, kick-off 7.45pm.

[Dodge]

I'd imagine there'd be live GAA on that day. Doubt its for TV

[Mr Maroon]

DundalkFC v Galway Utd FAI cup match has been changed from Friday 3rd June to Sunday 5th June with a 3pm KO.Not sure yet if this change is for TV purposes but cant see any other reason for the switch to the Sunday ??
If required, a replay will take place at Terryland Park on Tuesday 7 June, kick-off 7.45pm.
Dundalk wanted to change the game from the Friday. I'm not sure why.

[bullit]

If Dundalk are moving the fixture for anything else other than TV coverage then its a shocking disgrace :mad: Fans 2nd best again.

[Dunny]

Dundalk wanted to change the game from the Friday. I'm not sure why.

Nobody knows why, Ive asked and no reply.

[Mr Maroon]

Nobody knows why, Ive asked and no reply.

Apparently there's some kind of function on in your clubhouse in Friday?

[oriel]

Strictly Come Dancing is on in the Youth Devel Centre on Friday night, and there is usally a party booked most fri/sat nights (which usually takes place in the YDC), I still dont see why this should be reason to change a match though, the bar in the centre of the stand would still be open.

These are obviously big revenue sources for the club, but things like this should never interfere with a scheduled league match night.

Now for cup games, I could be wrong, but I do think clubs have the option of playing over the 3 weekend days.

[Dunny]

Strictly Come Dancing is on in the Youth Devel Centre on Friday night,.

Jesus, I thought that was a joke when I seen it on Orielweb....

[legendz]

Derry City v Shamrock Rovers
Airtricity League RTE Two (19:00-22:00 Ireland Only)

[SkStu]

Ireland only?!?!?! since when have they made LOI games Ireland only?

[legendz]

http://www.livesportontv.com/football/ will have the answer I guess!

[Hibs4Ever]

Ireland only?!?!?! since when have they made LOI games Ireland only?



It's worldwide according to RTE website

[SkStu]

cheers H4E. I thought legendz might have copied it from the RTE website. Thank Christ.

[placid casual]

cheers H4E. I thought legendz might have copied it from the RTE website. Thank Christ.

Good to see your so excited about seeing the Champions.:D

might not be that many hoops there tho, as there is a boycott being mentioned.

[poster]

might not be that many hoops there tho, as there is a boycott being mentioned.

And this will achieve??

[nigel-harps1954]

And this will achieve??

This will achieve the attendances thread going into meltdown.

[hoopy]

Good to see your so excited about seeing the Champions.:D

might not be that many hoops there tho, as there is a boycott being mentioned.

Looking likely to be a very small travelling support. I always look forward to Derry but will have to miss this one as I don't fancy getting my own car smashed up now that there probably won't be any supporters club buses going.

[dfx-]

This will achieve the attendances thread going into meltdown.

And no repeat Trouble Outside Stadiums thread of the last Hooped visit there.

[sligoman]

Sligo Rovers Vs. Derry City, 3rd September on RTE with a ridiculous kick-off time of 2.45pm.

[holidaysong]

Dundalk vs Shamrock Rovers on Setanta that evening too. 5.30 k.o.