Conor Casey

[dynamo kerry]

a yank
anyone ever heard of him
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=206452

[finlma]

a yank
anyone ever heard of him
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=206452

What does this have to do with Irish soccer? An American playing in Germany. Just cause his name is Irish doesn't mean we have to talk about him.

[lopez]

What does this have to do with Irish soccer? An American playing in Germany. Just cause his name is Irish doesn't mean we have to talk about him.Yeah, his ancestors f*cked off to a better life so that's the last we should hear or see of them. :rolleyes:

[Metrostars]

I've watched Casey a few times in friendlies over here. A bit like Tony Cascarino in the way he plays. Big lad, holds the ball up well, not much else. Speaking of Americans of Irish descent, there was a rumer a while back that Kerr was looking at Pat Noonan of the Revs up in Boston. He has made a habit of scoring a bucketfull of goals whenever they play the Metrostars. I think his parents are from Ireland.
It's kinda funny though that the scorers for the US against Portugal in the last WC were O'Brien, Donovan and McBride.

[Littlest Hobo]

I've watched Casey a few times in friendlies over here. A bit like Tony Cascarino in the way he plays. Big lad, holds the ball up well, not much else. Speaking of Americans of Irish descent, there was a rumer a while back that Kerr was looking at Pat Noonan of the Revs up in Boston. He has made a habit of scoring a bucketfull of goals whenever they play the Metrostars. I think his parents are from Ireland.
It's kinda funny though that the scorers for the US against Portugal in the last WC were O'Brien, Donovan and McBride.

Sounds ****e to me. We don't need another bingpole in our team.
The football in the US is of a crap standard anyway.

[tiktok]

The football in the US is of a crap standard anyway.

and what exactly are you basing that opinion on....:rolleyes:

I lived over there for a while and it's a pretty decent standard. It's easy to knock it from here because we have no exposure to it, but the majority of their (top ten ranked in the world btw) national team are based at home and players like Tim Howard and Brian McBride made the transfer to the premiership with great ease.

If it does have a drawback it's the absence of divisions 2-4, the semi-pro leagues are poor and the collegiate system is responsible for the majority of players coming through, it can make them over reliant on substandard (usually former greats now past it) foreigners to fill out the ranks, although thats an accusation that can be levelled at most american team sports.

[Metrostars]

The football in the US is of a crap standard anyway.

Sure, whatever you say :p But I think this is a good time to remind you that the US with mostly US-based players got to the quarter finals of the last World Cup. Sure enough, they used to be crap but not any more.

[dynamo kerry]

What does this have to do with Irish soccer? An American playing in Germany. Just cause his name is Irish doesn't mean we have to talk about him.


if you don't like it- don't continue to read the thread. Oh- are you someone who thinks kids of emigrants shouldnt be considered irish enough for the team?? oooh sorry :rolleyes:

Let's face it someone with a name like Conor Casey has to be more than a little bit irish. At least 1st generation. I'd heard Kerr scouted a lot of dudes in the US. Noonan is pretty good but he's not turning it on thi year and has been capped surely by the USA anyway by now

I Reckon this guy casey is fairly bog standard anyway from what I've read of him but 'tis just a passing note

as a resident of canada and a frequent viewer of MLS I can tell ye it's not that bad - the general consensus is that the good teams are like coventry or other mid-div 1 england sides while therer are one or two appaling teams also

[blobbyblob]

Is it true that (Ex Newcastle/Juve/Time Magazine Person of the Century)Ronnie O Brien is doing well in the MSL.

[dynamo kerry]

yes.. it is

[Metrostars]

Is it true that (Ex Newcastle/Juve/Time Magazine Person of the Century)Ronnie O Brien is doing well in the MSL.

O'Brien is doing ok. Set up a goal at the weekend: mms://a1503.v115042.c11504.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/11504/v0001/mlbmls.download.akamai.com/11504/2004/open/topplays/archive06/060504_dabnym_johnson_goal_384.wmv

Also scored a nice one last week:
mms://a1503.v115042.c11504.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/11504/v0001/mlbmls.download.akamai.com/11504/2004/open/gp/archive05/052904_dablag_gp_384.wmv

BTW Noonan scored a hattrick last week:
mms://a1503.v115042.c11504.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/11504/v0001/mlbmls.download.akamai.com/11504/2004/open/gp/archive06/060204_nerkcw_gp_384.wmv

[finlma]

if you don't like it- don't continue to read the thread. Oh- are you someone who thinks kids of emigrants shouldnt be considered irish enough for the team?? oooh sorry :rolleyes:


Its just that in the article it says he is a US international so I'm assuming that means he is American and cannot play for us. Hence I don't think an American moving to a German club warrants discussion on an Irish soccer forum.

[Metrostars]

Eddie Gaven whose parents from apparently from Galway scored two great goals last night for the Metros, check them out:
mms://a1503.v115042.c11504.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/11504/v0001/mlbmls.download.akamai.com/11504/2004/open/gp/archive06/062304_nymlag_gp1_384.wmv

He will end up playing in Europe in a couple of years, he's a diamond in the rough but has tremendous potential. Capped for the US at underage level, I wonder if Kerr would have a chat with him.

[cclinton]

Casey played a few weeks ago in WC qualifier for the US vs Grenada.

[1MickCollins]

I would be very surprised if any American "Irishman" would declare for ROI if he felt he had a chance of representing the US. The level of patriotism over here would embarrass any European, not to mention the national superiority complex.

[Metrostars]

I would be very surprised if any American "Irishman" would declare for ROI if he felt he had a chance of representing the US. The level of patriotism over here would embarrass any European, not to mention the national superiority complex.

Actually an American plays full-back for Jamaica and one of the stars of Italy's U-17 team is from New Jersey.

[tricky_colour]

The reality is that if the Yanks ever took football seriously they would
probably be world ranked no 1 and winning everything, so lets just
be thankful they don't. (Look at the top ten golfers in the world).
Fortunately they play games which no one else gives a toss about.

If the Yanks ever did win the world cup it would still be pushed off
the the sports headlines by baseball, american football and basketball
such is soccors status over there.

Apparently they are planning to organise a basesball world cup :p
no doubt to rival the real world cup with baseball giants such as:-
Australia, Canada, China, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Italy, Japan, Mexico, the Netherlands, Panama, Puerto Rico, South Africa, South Korea, Taiwan, and Venezuela, competing with the winners - the USA.

Obviously the idea would be scrapped if the USA didn't win!

[Metrostars]

tricky_colour, you are correct in some of your observations. However, the US has made great strides since 1990. In the 80's for a long time they didnt even have a team. Now they are probably the best team in the region. (They have consistantly beaten Mexico since 2000 except 1 in the Azteca).

MLS with all its warts and flaws but it turning around into a normal sort of league. Gone are the shoot-out wins and extra-time if tied after 90 for regular season games. But it has proved to be a great springboard that helps the national team and players who end up moving to Europe. They have a number of underage players who could make an impact by the 2006 or more likely the 2010 World Cup. Not saying they will win it or anything but probably good enough to get out of the group stages with a bit of luck.

As for the popularity, yes it does lag behind Pointyball, Baseball, Basketball and Ice-Hockey though I think it will overtake Ice-Hockey in a few years. The 3 major sport dominate the sports stage on TV and I really don't think that stranglehold will be broken for a long time. Commercial-wise, these sports are more "TV-friendly" over here, allowing the TV network to cut to ads every few minutes, unlike soccer. (a 60 minute pointyball game takes 3-4 hours to play, a 48 minute basketball game takes 2.5 hours to play)Therefore, TV networks make less money off soccer. Soccer therefore is relegated to niche pay channels like Fox Sports World, GOL TV and to a lesser extent ESPN2. It's sad but true, but ESPN who own the rights for Champions League sometimes puts on Fly Fishing or Worlds Strongest Man Competition reruns instead of showing live CL. Why? Because they make more money that way. In 2002, some local markets did not show ABC's live coverage of the World Cup final, showing infomercials instead.

So in a way, it is an uphill battle but slowly it is getting there.