New LOI Book

[MariborKev]

Just noticed this on our forum, but I am sure it has wider interest

"The launch is in the Burlington Hotel next Monday (Nov 22) from 7.30pm onwards. The book is called 'Gods versus Mortals' and comprises 10 separate chapters, each of which deals with a great European game from the last 50 years involving an Irish club."

[Jofspring]

Limerick vs Real Madrid?

[MariborKev]

I dunno, the discussion on our forum was round the fact that Derry v Benfica is in there in Chapter 8.

[Jofspring]

Will have to keep an eye out for this book. Should be an interesting read regardless of Limerick in it or not. Surely that match should be though.

[A face]

Athlone v Inter Milan??

[Dee1975]

Lads, I've asked the author for a full list of games I'll post them when I get a reply.

[culloty82]

Athlone v Inter Milan??

AC, but that will definitely have to be in there.

[Dee1975]

The 10 games are;
Shamrock Rovers v Man United, 1957
Waterford United v Man United, 1968
Athlone Town v AC Milan, 1975
Limerick United v Real Madrid, 1980
Dundalk v Spurs, 1981
Bohemians v Rangers, 1984
Galway United v Groningen, 1986
Derry City v Benfica, 1989
Shelbourne v Rangers, 1998
Shelbourne v Deportivo, 2004

There are nearly 60 different interviewees in it, including; Liam Tuohy, Ronnie Nolan, Paddy Crerand (Man United) Alfie Hale, John Minnock, Eoin Hand, Des Kennedy, Mick Fairclough, Dermot Keely, Damien Richardson, 'Rocky' O'Brien, Ian Redord (Rangers), Paul Mason (Groningen), Liam Coyle, Paul Doolin, Jonas Thern (Benfica), Paul McGee, Pat Fenlon, Jason Byrne, Stuart Byrne, Mark Rutherford and Pat Scully.

I think the price is €16.99 and you are all more than welcome to come to the book launch on Monday.

[pineapple stu]

Let the "Where's this game" moaning begin! :p

Must keep an eye out for it though.

[Bluebeard]

Sounds like a good list of games. A bit 80s heavy, but what can you leave out. Thought that Bohs Uefa Cup run - where they beat both Aberdeen and Roddy Collins "tactics" - might have made it, but probably just as well not have that interview.

Obviously it isn't complete without a full chapter on when we beat Bordeaux in the Cup Winners Cup in the 80s because Paul Cashin nutmegged Tigana, but the cheating french ****** appealed to UEFA and got the result rejected and they used goals scored to decide the outcome, all on a technicality.

[SwanVsDalton]

Would've sacrificed one of the Shels' games at the end to get another team in. Cork vs Bayern Munich or Drogheda vs Kiev maybe.

[Dunny]

Bohs v TNS?

[SwanVsDalton]

Bohs v TNS?

Bohs certainly played like a bunch of Buddha's that day.

[razor]

Would've sacrificed one of the Shels' games at the end to get another team in. Cork vs Bayern Munich or Drogheda vs Kiev maybe.
Would have certainly bought it if our Bayern tie was in it.

[Dodge]

Would have certainly bought it if our Bayern tie was in it.

Definitely more worthy thatn Shels v rangers or Galway's game. Rovers had a classic game with bayer in early 60s too. Only Pats possibility was v Celtic in 1998 (same year as Rangers v Shels)

[ndrog]

Would've sacrificed one of the Shels' games at the end to get another team in. Cork vs Bayern Munich or Drogheda vs Kiev maybe.

Drogs v kiev should have made it in .What a heartbreaking end to that game .Memories ...

[seand]

Good line up of games I reckon, should be an interesting read

[Rasputin]

Surely the Depor Vs Shels game and the Galway Vs Groningen games could have been substituted with some more worthy ones.

[Finlay Harp]

Everything surrounding the Dundalk v Linfield game many moons ago would have made a book in itself!

[Dunny]

Everything surrounding the Dundalk v Linfield game many moons ago would have made a book in itself!
+1

Currently doing a project on it!

[pineapple stu]

Volume 2 in the works already so.

I'll throw in my usual mention of UCD v Everton.

[stann]

Excellent, looks good, will be dropping hints over the next few weeks.
Scope for a sequel too with the games left out? [edit: PS beat me to that one]
Can't believe they did the Blues v Man U match without interviewing Johnny Matthews though! :laugh:

[Jofspring]

Will this be available at most book stores around the country does anyone know?

[marinobohs]

Excellent news and at least one of my Christmas presents sorted :o. good spread of games (although agree RE some of those mentioned that were not included). Hope the book sells well as there are not enough books about the LOI and it may encourage other such projects.

[Dee1975]

Will this be available at most book stores around the country does anyone know?

It should be on sale this weekend in Eason's and all major book shops throughout the country @ €16.99

[Dee1975]

Excellent, looks good, will be dropping hints over the next few weeks.
Scope for a sequel too with the games left out? [edit: PS beat me to that one]
Can't believe they did the Blues v Man U match without interviewing Johnny Matthews though! :laugh:

Johnny Matthews is interviewed!!

[corkharps]

Sounds like a good list of games. A bit 80s heavy, but what can you leave out. Thought that Bohs Uefa Cup run - where they beat both Aberdeen and Roddy Collins "tactics" - might have made it, but probably just as well not have that interview.

Obviously it isn't complete without a full chapter on when we beat Bordeaux in the Cup Winners Cup in the 80s because Paul Cashin nutmegged Tigana, but the cheating french ****** appealed to UEFA and got the result rejected and they used goals scored to decide the outcome, all on a technicality.
Or Surley the Harps v Derby classic in the 70's, when Derby sneaked through on goals scored!

Sounds like a good read all the same.

[oriel]

Sounds a great book, and no matter what ten games were selected, there would have been 10 more 'should have been in there'.

Def worth buying I think.

[gspain]

The 10 games are;
Shamrock Rovers v Man United, 1957
Waterford United v Man United, 1968
Athlone Town v AC Milan, 1975
Limerick United v Real Madrid, 1980
Dundalk v Spurs, 1981
Bohemians v Rangers, 1984
Galway United v Groningen, 1986
Derry City v Benfica, 1989
Shelbourne v Rangers, 1998
Shelbourne v Deportivo, 2004

There are nearly 60 different interviewees in it, including; Liam Tuohy, Ronnie Nolan, Paddy Crerand (Man United) Alfie Hale, John Minnock, Eoin Hand, Des Kennedy, Mick Fairclough, Dermot Keely, Damien Richardson, 'Rocky' O'Brien, Ian Redord (Rangers), Paul Mason (Groningen), Liam Coyle, Paul Doolin, Jonas Thern (Benfica), Paul McGee, Pat Fenlon, Jason Byrne, Stuart Byrne, Mark Rutherford and Pat Scully.

I think the price is €16.99 and you are all more than welcome to come to the book launch on Monday.

Shamrock Rovers were 6 minutes away from putting Bayern Munich (eventual winners) out of the 66/7 ECWC. That really should have been included.

I presume the Galway game is there for the novelty of a game in Carraroe as Groningen were never exactly giants of European football.

Despite the good spread around the league I'm surprised no Cork game was included. There are a few candidates.

[gspain]

Another obvious one was Dundalk v Celtic 79 rather than v Tottenham. Obviously Tottenham are a bigger club but Dundalk were inches away from winning the Celtic tie (Had it been a striker rather than Tommy McConville with that chance....) and in reality were not close to knocking Tottenham out.

Dundalk would have been the first LoI side in the quarter finals of the European Cup (or any European competition) too had they won that tie in 1979.

[Straightstory]

Pretty good list, though Bayern v Shams is an obvious omission. Also Drogs v Kiev - and possibly Everton v UCD. To go a little further back, Shelbourne v Belenenses in 1964 (?) where Shels knocked out a strong Portugese side may well be the best ever result for an Irish club in Europe. (I note all ten games featured in the book resulted in Irish losses. ONE featured victory would have been nice).
Anyway, very pleased someone has written a book like this. Best of luck with it.

[Jofspring]

I suggest gspain to help out with a volume 2 :D. Seem to have a great memory for games.

[pineapple stu]

Shame there's no games from beyond the Iron Curtain. Something like Drumcondra v Vorwaerts Berlin (who were subsequently upped and moved to Frankfurt) would be interesting, both as a decent result (1-0 first leg win, 3-0 second leg loss) and an insight into what it was like for the players to travel into Communist Europe. There'd be some stories there that would be almost inconceivable now I'd say.

[Fivesilver]

Since you bring it up, could have had the Bit o' Red in '77 against a powerful Red Star Belgrade side anchored by the great Dragan Džajić.

[stann]

Johnny Matthews is interviewed!!
Ah good. It's a game he's not reluctant to talk about you see. :laugh:
Rightly so, from what I gather, mind you!

[corkharps]

Shame there's no games from beyond the Iron Curtain. Something like Drumcondra v Vorwaerts Berlin (who were subsequently upped and moved to Frankfurt) would be interesting, both as a decent result (1-0 first leg win, 3-0 second leg loss) and an insight into what it was like for the players to travel into Communist Europe. There'd be some stories there that would be almost inconceivable now I'd say.
I always wondered where the Drums had vanished to!

[El-Pietro]

City v Bayern Munich, Galatasaray, Malmo

[oriel]

Since you bring it up, could have had the Bit o' Red in '77 against a powerful Red Star Belgrade side anchored by the great Dragan Džajić.

Didnt realise that, my first Dundalk game was v Hajuck Split in 1977 (1-0) but hammered away, so we were in the same neck of the woods that year.

[bluemovie]

[QUOTE=gspain;1427029]I presume the Galway game is there for the novelty of a game in Carraroe as Groningen were never exactly giants of European football.[QUOTE]

Yeah that's a great story. TG4 did a documentary on it. As you say, it's a little out of place because Groningen weren't as strong as the other clubs, but it's a tale worth telling.

[gspain]

[QUOTE=gspain;1427029]I presume the Galway game is there for the novelty of a game in Carraroe as Groningen were never exactly giants of European football.[QUOTE]

Yeah that's a great story. TG4 did a documentary on it. As you say, it's a little out of place because Groningen weren't as strong as the other clubs, but it's a tale worth telling.

I was at the game. It is a story worth telling and was an amazing scenic venue.

[bluemovie]

Very good. I think it's one of two UEFA Cup grounds I can claim to have played on. Think the TG4 documentary was UEFA sa Ghaeltacht. It was a bit of a Rule 42 infringement.

[Fivesilver]

It was a great day though - lads dribbling in and out between stone walls, United kitted out in big woolly fishermen's ganseys and the Dutch lads getting all confused at the talk of Galway hookers.

[gufcfan]

Very good. I think it's one of two UEFA Cup grounds I can claim to have played on. Think the TG4 documentary was UEFA sa Ghaeltacht. It was a bit of a Rule 42 infringement.
As much as the GAA would love it, Rule 42 doesn't apply to pitches that they don't own.

[oriel]

Another obvious one was Dundalk v Celtic 79 rather than v Tottenham. Obviously Tottenham are a bigger club but Dundalk were inches away from winning the Celtic tie .

Spurs were not the bigger club in 1979, Celtic had won the european cup 12 years previous, a feat spurs never managed, but I do agree that game should have been included, along with a lot of others for loads of other clubs, Vol 2 def worth looking into.

Tommy McConnville reckons everyone in Dundalk was behind the goal to see him just missing that cross that night ! A good connection and it could have been Dundalk V Real Madrid. Anyone remember Gazza going close v Germany in euro 96, in extra time, similar to that.

[Ash]

I would have liked if it revisited Longfords trip to Carmarthen

[Martinho II]

I would have liked if it revisited Longfords trip to Carmarthen

dont u dare ash! i still get nightmares about it!!!:(

[Enruoblehs]

Speaking to the author, Paul Keane, at the Shels exhibition in Pearse Street Library during the week, he informed me that he was already starting on volumn two!

[pineapple stu]

Has anybody read it yet so?

[marinobohs]

Has anybody read it yet so?

Asked for it in Easons (O'Connell St) on saturday but they said it wasn't in. Anyone have any joy tracking it down ?

[gspain]

Spurs were not the bigger club in 1979, Celtic had won the european cup 12 years previous, a feat spurs never managed, but I do agree that game should have been included, along with a lot of others for loads of other clubs, Vol 2 def worth looking into.

Tommy McConnville reckons everyone in Dundalk was behind the goal to see him just missing that cross that night ! A good connection and it could have been Dundalk V Real Madrid. Anyone remember Gazza going close v Germany in euro 96, in extra time, similar to that.

Had you won the league that season it would have been Dundalk v Real Madrid too but of course.....................................