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EalingGreen
16/09/2010, 2:42 PM
I dont think it's accurate to characterise McCourt as a "Fourth Division failure" or an impact player for when you are cruising to victory. Many of his goals and impact contributions have been in games where Celtic have been struggling. It's sad in a way that "the British game" has difficulty accomodating talents like McCourts, and is inevitably inclined to dismiss them as "luxury players".It is even more incredible that NI with their present embarrassment of medicrity can ignore a player who could genuinely make a difference to a game. Come on GR you dont honestly mean to tell me that players like Little, McAuley and the Coleraine goal machine (Patterson) are a class above McCourt? Niall McGInn's impact at Celtic has hardly been more significant and yet he is a squad regularAs I've said many times before, nothing would please me more than to see McCourt strutting his stuff in an NI shirt.

But when I look at his actual record, as opposed to his "Two Minutes of Fame" on YouTube etc, I side with Strachan, Mowbray, Lennon, McIlroy, Sanchez and Worthington, each one of whom has taken a look, even given him a run-out, then decided against.

Face facts. Paddy is in his 3rd season at Parkhead, during which time he has made just six (five?) SPL starts, none against Rangers btw. I'm not sure he has ever completed 90 minutes in any of those. As for his 6 SPL goals to date, I think I'm right in saying all bar one has been after coming on as a sub, when Celtic have either been level, or more usually ahead i.e. opposing defenders have tired. He has yet to score against Rangers, and his recent injury-time goal vs Hearts (he came on with 17 minutes to go with Celtic 2-0 up), was his first at home.

Beyond that, he usually gets a cameo in Scottish Cup games, but hardly features in the 'must-win' European games, including all four this season (vs Utrecht and Braga).

And to be quite honest, as a wonderfully skillful, but lazy-arsed player, he's not even unique for being ignored by an Irish international manager, as this guy demonstrates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ilqmcslw4

P.S. Little and McAuley are both Right Backs (our problem position) and Patterson is an out-and-out striker, whereas McCourt is neither. As for McGinn, such has been his impact for NI that I wouldn't swap him if you offered me three Paddy McCourts, to play half an hour each!

RiffRaff
17/09/2010, 12:28 PM
Anyway back to the thread...I seem to remember prior to the 82 world cup, there were some newspaper articles about Sean Byrne, ex Dundalk all conquering team of the late 70's, who had moved to live in New Zealand and was hoping to be involved in their squad. In the end I dont think he made it, but I'm not sure if he was capped at any stage.

Philly
17/09/2010, 12:37 PM
Could it be this Sean Byrne?

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/statisticsandrecords/players/player=47120/

Paddy Garcia
17/09/2010, 8:35 PM
Paul McShane

... in every match I've watched anyway.

dahamsta
18/09/2010, 5:37 PM
Crap stripped to Rubbish, back on topic please.

EastTerracer
03/10/2010, 2:34 AM
Don't know if anyone else has come across these lads but the Japanese U-19 squad recently included a young fella called Colin Killoran (Irish father, Japanese mother). Both he and his brother Niall play for Tokyo Verdy in the second division of the J-League. The wikipedia page below has an Irish flag beside both their names. Anybody know anything about them?

http://www.jfa.or.jp/eng/topics/2010/119.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Verdy

Nagger
03/10/2010, 7:43 AM
Dont know anything about them. Great find though ;)

Did find some more info on them. http://www.liberosports.com/players/colin-killoran?format=simple and http://www.liberosports.com/players/nial-killoran?format=simple

boovidge
03/10/2010, 10:09 AM
I wonder if they FAI know about those two?

Dodge
03/10/2010, 10:12 AM
I wonder if they FAI know about those two?

Is the Japanese 2nd division where they should be looking?

Spudulika
03/10/2010, 11:28 AM
Is the Japanese 2nd division where they should be looking?

If they're playing first team football in a 2nd level league at a young age, and good enough for the Japanese underage teams......sign them up, though I think they'd prefer to play for Japan. Both look like good players.

Spudulika
03/10/2010, 11:28 AM
A guy I played rugby with, Sean O'Neill, played for the Cayman Islands in World Cup qualifiers in rugby, and for some reason I think he played football too.

EastTerracer
03/10/2010, 4:08 PM
Dont know anything about them. Great find though ;)

Did find some more info on them. http://www.liberosports.com/players/colin-killoran?format=simple and http://www.liberosports.com/players/nial-killoran?format=simple

One thing that makes me a little wary is that Libero Sports are the same agents that represent one Joseph Lapira:sarcastic:

holidaysong
07/10/2010, 9:46 PM
It hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet but Éamon Zayed is set to earn a cap for Libya this weekend.

Closed Account
07/10/2010, 10:18 PM
It hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet but Éamon Zayed is set to earn a cap for Libya this weekend.
http://i53.tinypic.com/i6wd52.jpg

Charlie Darwin
07/10/2010, 10:33 PM
He's carrying an injury so he might not be able to.

holidaysong
10/10/2010, 2:02 PM
Libya vs. Zambia kicks off at 7pm Irish time tonight. Can't find any starting line-up for Libya anywhere yet though (well, nothing in English anyway).

bennocelt
10/10/2010, 5:00 PM
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=90731&part=sports

How many football nerds will watch this one;)
Wonder will Paddy Power have a book on it, I wouldnt mind backing him to score a goal

AlaskaFox
10/10/2010, 7:57 PM
Did he play?

DannyInvincible
10/07/2017, 5:52 PM
An in-depth piece from The42.ie on Eamonn Zayed's career in the League of Ireland and beyond: http://www.the42.ie/eamon-zayed-interview-3484674-Jul2017/


I had finished my Master’s. I was actually contemplating quitting full-time football, going back to part-time football and getting a ‘real job,’ as some people would say. I even interviewed for three or four places, sent out my CV to numerous accountancy and finance firms. What changed it was going to the Libya national team. They called me into a camp. We had a game. We went over for a week. I jumped off a plane and was met by numerous TV cameras in my face. I was going: ‘What the **** is going on here?’ They followed me in training and every day, there were interviews.

They didn’t know anything about football in Ireland. All they knew was ‘this player coming from Europe’. When they think of Ireland, they thought of the national team and ‘Robbie Keane, Roy Keane,’ and that’s what they thought. They thought playing football in Ireland was the exact same as playing football in England, in terms of the setup, the professionalism, the standard — everything. So they made a big fuss about me going over there. And I loved that… You were a star.