Looks like Bohs will be seeded in 2nd qualifying round of CL

[abcd]

I think the form Bohs are in at present they can't afford to look further than the second qualifying round, potentially some tricky enough ties there. If they can get through that round things start to open up, of course there will be no easy games in round 3 but if Bohs(or any other Irish team) are going to make a breakthrough they'll need to take a big scalp sooner or later.

[LukeO]

I think the form Bohs are in at present they can't afford to look further than the second qualifying round, potentially some tricky enough ties there.

Agreed. :(

[topia]

You're right; mea culpa. Ditto Sparta.

But these -


- are all teams who LoI clubs played in rounds 1 and 2. I was looking at who you face in the final round before the groups. They're slightly less daunting this way.


They are the teams that actually knocked the Irish team out...I wasnt trying to make them seem less daunting, just saying that it isnt easier now if you draw the likes of Salzburg rather than that lot!

[pineapple stu]

Ha! Just on a completely different wavelength to you for some reason...

[bennocelt]

Hi, want to bump this
Next Monday the draws are on..........................

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=1498111.html

Bohs
Would like them to get.............Jeunesse, Linfield, TNC, HB Torshavn, Dinamo Tirana, FH Hafnarjardar, Metalurgs, Levadia Tallinn or Birkirkara
The best for travel woud be TNC/Linfield
An awful draw..............Renova Dzepciste (macedonia), Inter Baku (AZe) Pyunik Yerevan (Arm), Olimpi Rustavi (geo), Zeljeznicar Sarajevo (bos)
With the Euros starting then what bet that they will draw the armenian or macedonia team???

Dundalk/Fingal/Shams also in draw for Europa.
Wonder will it be regionalised?

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seedel2010.html

Wud be nice for Dundalk to get...........Llanelli FC, Sliema Wanderers, Port Talbot Town and very interesting if they got Portadown

In the second rd, the best draw wud be to get any of the Finnish or Norwwegian teams, and FK Ventspilsfrom Latvia with its nice coefficients of 4.649 wud be handy IMHO

(yes I am an anorak - love the co efficients - forget the worold cup i will be glued to the laptop on monday!!!!!LOL)

[Dodge]

Dundalk/Fingal/Shams also in draw for Europa.
Wonder will it be regionalised?


Not regionalised but they'll be seperated into "pots" before the draw so they'll know it'll be one of five (ppossibly more if they get the winners of AFC v BFC types)

[The Lep]

Llanelli could be a tricky one for Dundalk as they wont be easy to beat. Nice little stadium though.

[fionnsci]

They should be, really.

[Réiteoir]

They should be, really.

Everytime anyone says anything like that - I'm posting this link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4722241.stm

[TheBoss]

League of Ireland v WALES (Away)

PLD: 5 W: 1 D: 0 L: 4 F: 7 A: 16

[Dunny]

Portadown.

Few Drogs would be up supporting them aswell I'd say.

[fionnsci]

Everytime anyone says anything like that - I'm posting this link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4722241.stm

I knew someone would react to that! I'm not saying upsets can't or don't happen but Dundalk should be considered favourites for that game if it arises.

[Acornvilla]

Everytime anyone says anything like that - I'm posting this link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4722241.stm
i hate you

[A N Mouse]

League of Ireland v WALES (Away)

PLD: 5 W: 1 D: 0 L: 4 F: 7 A: 16

Am fairly certain that would read slightly better if it was LOI v LOW.

Your point stands though.

I would enjoy an encounter, between an LOI club and one of the (welsh) clubs that play in england, these days.

[thischarmingman]

What time does all of this start at tomorrow?

[A N Mouse]

What time does all of this start at tomorrow?

Usual times 11 and 12

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/mediaservices/newsid=1498385.html

Am I correct in thinking these would be the unseeded team in Dundalk's pot?

33 Glentoran FC (NIR) 1.324
34 F91 Dudelange (LUX) 1.249
35 JK Trans Narva (EST) 1.124
36 FK Khazar Lankaran (AZE) 1.099
37 Fylkir (ISL) 1.083

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1498176.html

These grouping seem to be decided on the day

And, no idea how on this one, rovers/spingal in against 5 of these

22 FK Dukla Banská Bystrica (SVK) 3.166
23 FC Honka Espoo (FIN) 2.899
24 NK Maribor (SVN) [CW] 2.891

or winner of 1st round ties involving theses
5 FC Nitra (SVK) 3.166
6 FK Rabotnicki (MKD) 3.066
7 Myllykosken Pallo-47 (FIN) [FP] 2.899

[danthesaint]

I think the form Bohs are in at present they can't afford to look further than the second qualifying round, potentially some tricky enough ties there. If they can get through that round things start to open up, of course there will be no easy games in round 3 but if Bohs(or any other Irish team) are going to make a breakthrough they'll need to take a big scalp sooner or later.

ya never know, we were gick in the league last year and went on a good run in europe and that was jeff kenna was in charge can ya imagine what we would have done if we had a decent manager :p

[Réiteoir]

i hate you

I hate you lot even more - I travelled up from the South of England to watch that game

[Martinho II]

I hate you lot even more - I travelled up from the South of England to watch that game

and I remember talking to you at it..

[Réiteoir]

Aye - was myself and DCFCSteve

[The Lep]

Llanelli could be a tricky one for Dundalk as they wont be easy to beat. Nice little stadium though.

A bit of a rewind on that one as Llanelli have offloaded a good few of their main lads in favour of youth to save a few quid. Didnt know that when i posted last one :).

What is the price money Bohs get for their first match ? Read that TNS are getting 330,000 but surely they must have got that wrong have they ?

[Dodge]

Yes, wildly wrong.

[bennocelt]

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/index.html


http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/draws/index.html

[The Lep]

Are they the 6 teams that Bohs could draw?

Is Rovers and Fingal on the seeded side of the Europa draw going by that link ?

[holidaysong]

Am I correct in thinking these would be the unseeded team in Dundalk's pot?

33 Glentoran FC (NIR) 1.324
34 F91 Dudelange (LUX) 1.249
35 JK Trans Narva (EST) 1.124
36 FK Khazar Lankaran (AZE) 1.099
37 Fylkir (ISL) 1.083



The pots aren't made up of clubs in consecutive order like that. Instead matrices are used so the pots look like this:

Pot
A B C D E
01 02 03 04 05
10 09 08 07 06
11 12 13 14 15..

..and so on. These pots aren't fixed though as they are then changed about a bit to make sure no two clubs from the same country can play each other.

[holidaysong]

Is Rovers and Fingal on the seeded side of the Europa draw going by that link ?

No neither of them are seeded.

[The Lep]

I know that. Its just that they are on the seeded teams side in the link above.



Also, dont forget that TNS play in Oswestry in England if you draw them. Its a bit awkward to get to if you arnt going by coach from here. Also i think they play in green and white hoops :)

[Réiteoir]

I was at the TNS - Fram game in the Europa League at the start of the season just gone. Nearest rail station is 2 miles away in Gobowen, but is some 65 miles from Birmingham. Largest nearby town is Shrewsbury

The only other problem we might have - as these games have to be all-seater - only one side of the ground will be open to spectators

[sparky12345678]

Is Rovers and Fingal on the seeded side of the Europa draw going by that link ?

Nope the link on uefa.com doesnt takae into account winners from the previous round who would be seeded.
I find wiki alot handier:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_UEFA_Europa_League#Second_qualifyi ng_round
so it shows we´re not seeded on the right and the seeded (possible opponents) on the left...

[The Lep]

I was at the TNS - Fram game in the Europa League at the start of the season just gone. Nearest rail station is 2 miles away in Gobowen, but is some 65 miles from Birmingham. Largest nearby town is Shrewsbury

The only other problem we might have - as these games have to be all-seater - only one side of the ground will be open to spectators

I think the capacity is only 3000 but i dont know if thats with the extra seats i think they are putting in. Oswestry is a big enough place.

[Infadel]

Groupings for the first round of Europa league are on UEFA.com

First Round Group 4:
Seeded- Dundalk, Kalmar FF, KR Reykjavík, FK Tauras
Unseeded- EB/Streymur, Glentoran FC, JK Trans Narva, Llanelli AFC, CS Grevenmacher

[holidaysong]

Great pot to be honest from a travelling (expense) point of view. 40% chance of it being a NI or Welsh club. Luxembourg wouldn't be a disaster either. Not sure about Estonia. I think Ryanair may fly there so that wouldn't be that expensive. The Faroe Islands is the one you want to avoid obviously.

[abcd]

In terms of progression Dundalk would have to be happy enough with that pot. The Estonians are probably the ones to avoid, Glentoran's attitude to Europe may change if they draw Dundalk, i.e. players mightn't head off on holiday.

[holidaysong]

Bohemians in the CL draw can get:

HJK Helsinki (FIN), FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL), HB Tórshavn (FRO), The New Saints FC (WAL), Linfield FC (NIR) or AS Jeunesse Esch (LUX).

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=1498111.html

[abcd]

Bohemians in the CL draw can get:

HJK Helsinki (FIN), FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL), HB Tórshavn (FRO), The New Saints FC (WAL), Linfield FC (NIR) or AS Jeunesse Esch (LUX).

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=1498111.html

Thats not bad. Obviously anyone but HJK is what Bohs would be looking for.

[Boo_Boy]

http://video.uefa.com/video/Competitions/UCL/Season=2011/liveDraw_videoFlash.html

Draw video live.

[Boo_Boy]

Bohs got TNS.

[bennocelt]

Wud be handy if it was TNS of Wales, nice easy trip, good for co efficients and into next round:)
The next round looks a stinker alright, so much for Plantini making it easier and all that...................


lolololololol brilliant, just have enuff in the bank to make that trip I think!!

[Flexy]

Good draw for Bohs nightmare for Linfield who got Rosenberg

[holidaysong]

Would love it if we got Llanelli now after Bohs getting TNS.

[Réiteoir]

I think the capacity is only 3000 but i dont know if thats with the extra seats i think they are putting in. Oswestry is a big enough place.

That's with standing - the seated capacity for the Fram game was around 1,000

[Charlie Darwin]

Fingal look to have a tricky tie against a Portuguese outfit.

[fionnsci]

That's with standing - the seated capacity for the Fram game was around 1,000

I thought the ground's capacity had to be 3,000 hence the whole Dundalk thing?

[shep]

I thought the ground's capacity had to be 3,000 hence the whole Dundalk thing?

No Dundalk wanted to increase our capacity to 3000 to make it feasible(money wise) to stage the game in Oriel,anything less and we would have been as well to play game elsewhere

[Dodge]

I thought the ground's capacity had to be 3,000 hence the whole Dundalk thing?

I'm almost certain the FAI make that requirement of Irish clubs because it was definitely mooted at the time of our Euro game v Odense (the first in the "recent" games). The ground Pats played in in Malta certainly wasn't 3k

[Ezeikial]

I thought the ground's capacity had to be 3,000 hence the whole Dundalk thing?


I'm almost certain the FAI make that requirement of Irish clubs because it was definitely mooted at the time of our Euro game v Odense (the first in the "recent" games). The ground Pats played in in Malta certainly wasn't 3k


The UEFA Stadium Regulations of 2006 were in force until superceded - with little or no advance notice - by the 2010 regulations which only came into effect this May. The earlier edition required minimum of 3000 seats for category 2 stadium classification. The new regulations then dropped this requirement to 1500 seats.

This is the minimum category required by UEFA for Europa League QF1 and QF2, and the 3000 seats rule has been the requirement since 2006 to now, unless the national association is granted an exemption by UEFA (perhaps the case in Malta)

Dundalk's upgrade work was to meet this 3000 seat / 2006 regulation, and even though this has now changed downward it is irrelevant as 1500 capacity would not meet the demand nor make the work economically viable.

The downside of the changes is that QF3 and beyond now requires a Category 3 stadium (QF3 previously was Category 2 stadium) so most clubs have to move ground one round earlier (great problem to have). Aviva, RDS, Tallaght,Thomond and Croke Park are the only ones and only the first two are feasible for any club this season.