Mick McCarthy

[jbyrne]

You see I've a serious issue with him saying he can't be aware of every player. Of course he can. Half of the people on this forum - as a hobby! - know just about any player that is senior and available, but the National team manager isn't??? Come on for god sake.

if a player was truly worth knowing about he would be aware

[paul_oshea]

Mick and I have a lot in common, I hope he has as good a selection policy as I do.

[Paddy Garcia]

You see I've a serious issue with him saying he can't be aware of every player. Of course he can. Half of the people on this forum - as a hobby! - know just about any player that is senior and available, but the National team manager isn't??? Come on for god sake.

I think Mick's appointment must be part time!

[Kingdom]

if a player was truly worth knowing about he would be aware

Ah come on, for the love of god, do you truly believe that? You're allowed to be critical of the manager every once in a while JB, you won't have to go to mass to seek absolution.

[SkStu]

You see I've a serious issue with him saying he can't be aware of every player. Of course he can. Half of the people on this forum - as a hobby! - know just about any player that is senior and available, but the National team manager isn't??? Come on for god sake.

That's what his management team is for though. As he says himself, if Noel King (or Robbie K or Terry C) tells him he needs to check so and so out and this player is eligible/interested, he will go do what he needs to as manager and will then decide whether to call up or not. I don't think you can ask fairer than that - his job is to have a team or system that brings these decisions to him effectively.

[Kingdom]

I disagree, but I can appreciate where you're coming from. Personally I'll focus on the robbie and terry referee comment rather than Kinger.

I just would have expected him to know Dan Crowley, considering he was pretty high profile at Arsenal while playing for Ireland underage and also playing for Mick's hometown team.

I also understand that maybe he doesn't want to fan the flames on a potential recruit either, considering how it has effected previous managers.

[Paddy Garcia]

Exactly - the size of the player pool does not excuse such a degree of detachment

[Fizzer]

He might just be a bit wary of Crowley which I’d understand,this new-found enthusiasm to don the green seems like it might be as much to do with career progression as any national pride.Crowley’s never going to play for England so we’ll have to do.He plays in a Mickey Mouse league for a Mickey Mouse team.True he plays in a position that we are desperately short of quality, but is he that great? If so, then why isn’t he playing at a decent level? His temperament is unlikely to suit Mick either and the squad generally.I actually think for us to start punching above our weight again we really need player morale to improve, shoehorning sub-par Englishmen with an attitude into the team won’t do that.
Really like that Mick shut Rice up with his ‘it was an honour’ insincere nonsense.Would like it if he also told Bamford to shove it,let him watch Parrott, Connolly and Obafemi lash them in for us from the comfort of his couch.Will Keane’s made of glass,he won’t win ten caps, give those caps to our youngsters and invest properly in our talents for the future rather than trying to plug holes in the short-term.

[CraftyToePoke]

I actually think for us to start punching above our weight again we really need player morale to improve, shoehorning sub-par Englishmen with an attitude into the team won’t do that.

How do you account for his securing the lesser Keane brother so ? Why wasn't he wary of him ? As clear a case of career progression as you'll ever see.

[Charlie Darwin]

He plays in a Mickey Mouse league for a Mickey Mouse team.
Mickey Mouse league? Would you go away? The second-best team in that Mickey Mouse just went toe to toe with Real Madrid, who have won the last three Champions Leagues. We're in no position to be looking down on Dutch football considering our own people look down on our own league (as Mickey Mouse) and somehow expect us to compete with countries that have proper football cultures.

[jbyrne]

Ah come on, for the love of god, do you truly believe that? You're allowed to be critical of the manager every once in a while JB, you won't have to go to mass to seek absolution.

i will never be critical just for the sake of it. we havent even kicked a ball under mick yet.
id say mick was previously aware of crowley to an extent since he took over but more likely just to the back of his mind. understandable given crowley has only confirmed his commitment to us last week.

if micks last time in charge is anything to go by he has a proven record of finding players. the squad needed a massive overhaul the last time and he unearthed a load of players not on anyones radar at the end of Jacks time

[DeLorean]

I just would have expected him to know Dan Crowley, considering he was pretty high profile at Arsenal while playing for Ireland underage and also playing for Mick's hometown team.

I with you on this one for this very reason. He absolutely should know Crowley and I'd have expected him to have least watched him on TV by now.

[SkStu]

Exactly - the size of the player pool does not excuse such a degree of detachment


I with you on this one for this very reason. He absolutely should know Crowley and I'd have expected him to have least watched him on TV by now.

Lads, come on... he says in there that he does know Crowley but hasn't seen him play yet. I think you're being fierce harsh. He cant be/see everywhere all the time for every Tom, Dick and Harry or even know every single player that might be eligible for us - that is not his job. That's why he has his team around him. As I said to Kingdom above, I think this shows that he has a system working where his team bring him recommendations and then Mick goes and figures it out. Now, you'd hope that he would make it his business to check out Crowley sooner rather than later and evaluate whether he thinks he can use him but this all seems a little dramatic.

[DeLorean]

I'd normally agree I just think Crowley is high profile enough that Mick would be a bit more clued in, especially after Crowley making noises about wanting a call up last September. We don't have many Tom, Dick and Harry's playing on the continent so that'd make him stand out more too, or at least I would've thought so.

[Kingdom]

I with you on this one for this very reason. He absolutely should know Crowley and I'd have expected him to have least watched him on TV by now.

Honey, hush, you're with me on all ones **mmwah**:p

[Murph 1]

Think some on here are being a little harsh on Mick and maybe equally guilty of talking Daniel Crowley into something he may not be. McCarthy could very well be playing the whole thing down and not making Crowley into the next big thing. It is great that Daniel Crowley has declared for us, As soon as the paperwork is finalised -McCarthy will include him and see what he is made of. Think Mick McCarthy is a breath of fresh air who tells it as it is, His response to Rice was first class, while Bamford is very much in the last chance saloon.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Interesting look back from RTE, at McCarthy's team from his first match last time (a 2-0 friendly defeat against Russia in March 96): https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0319/1037350-where-are-they-now-mick-mccarthys-first-ireland-xi/

[geysir]

I think Mick could well be on the first plane to Holland after he sees us in action.

[Fixer82]

I think Mick could well be on the first plane to Holland after he sees us in action.

Think he’s gotten half price tickets off the Dutch FA before
:)

[OwlsFan]

I thought the Tony O'Donoghue post match interview with Mick was hilarious with Tony trying to set off on a nice, even obsequious, tone and Mick instead lambasting the performance which was really Tony's role in the past. Gift Grub had a laugh at it this am.

[geysir]

The pre game Gift Grub, this season's first episode Radio Roy (https://www.todayfm.com/podcasts/the-ian-dempsey-breakfast-show/gift-grub-radio-roy-mick-mccarthy-gibraltar-special)was also good fun.
Now sponsored by John Delaney's fast loan service.

[OwlsFan]

Yes I heard that one. Brilliant how he thinks up these quips so speedily.

[irishfan86]

Good piece here by Brian O’Connor in the Irish Times. I think many of us do really appreciate Mick but obviously there are still a lot of detractors. Honestly he has done wonders with very limited resources during this campaign. Kenny looks like a promising coach but if we do qualify and perform well at the Euros, it will feel wrong to make that transition (maybe though that rare thing for a manager to leave on a positive note): https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/mccarthy-due-more-appreciation-for-his-sterling-service-to-irish-football-1.4041888?

[Trequartista20]

Close to becoming APOEL's boss according to several reports.

[Exgrad]

What sort of salary is he likely to be on there? 200 to 300k? 2ml he cleared out of the FAI for 18 months work (no fault of Mick).

[tetsujin1979]

Confirmed as the new manager of Apoel Nicosia in Cyprus: http://www.apoelfc.com.cy/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=23257&tt=graphic&lang=l1

[seanfhear]

Confirmed as the new manager of Apoel Nicosia in Cyprus: http://www.apoelfc.com.cy/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=23257&tt=graphic&lang=l1
Should be nice weather most of the time. Does that team usually play attacking football. It would be interesting to see if Mick McCarthy can play attacking football ~ ~ well more than he usually has !

[pineapple stu]

Worth noting APOEL reached the quarters of the Champions League eight years ago. They've also gotten out of the Europa League groups three times. Has Mick managed in Europe before? That'd be an interesting one.

[Fixer82]

Worth noting APOEL reached the quarters of the Champions League eight years ago. They've also gotten out of the Europa League groups three times. Has Mick managed in Europe before? That'd be an interesting one.

I don't believe he has

[geysir]

Should be nice weather most of the time. Does that team usually play attacking football. It would be interesting to see if Mick McCarthy can play attacking football ~ ~ well more than he usually has !
It's ironic that Mick's character has been a part of Today fm Gift Grub sketches where 'Mick' has been contacted by phone for his opinion on the recent international games and each time he has been found totally relaxed on exotic beaches around the world, ordering drinks from suitably named bartenders.

[John83]

He's a 61-year-old presumably multimillionaire (unless he's been a very naughty boy). Exotic beaches are to be expected.

Also, not irony.

[geysir]

He's a 61-year-old presumably multimillionaire (unless he's been a very naughty boy). Exotic beaches are to be expected.

Also, not irony.
That's not anything.
Perhaps you're handicapped by an UCD education :rolleyes:
The irony is in the unexpected, the bit where Mick actually did get a job near a sunny beach in a holiday location, where that unexpected outcome in Mick's life imitated a recent satire.

[Fixer82]

It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife. (especially cos you're in a knife factory)

[geysir]

It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife. (especially cos you're in a knife factory)
Except what I wrote about was an actual irony.
Is it ironic or just very sad that the people who claim that my example about Mick was not irony, do not actually know what irony is about?
One may take this as a rebuke to someone else who pretends to own a superior knowledge and condescends to perceived inferiors.

Anyway good luck to Mick. The last Irishman to manage a football team in those waters was pioneer Ronnie Whelan in Malta, I just remember his comments about his failure to come to terms with the incessant diving.

[Eminence Grise]

But it wasn't irony. It was coincidence. (https://foot.ie/threads/134396-Mick-McCarthy?p=2055845&viewfull=1#post2055845)

Irony is when you chastise somebody for pretending to have a superior knowledge while being factually wrong yourself.

Ronnie managed in Greece and Cyprus. Never Malta.

Oh, the irony.:cool:

[NeverFeltBetter]

Sacked after nine games: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0106/1187968-mccarthy-sacked-hours-after-debut-of-jack-byrne/

[Diggs246]

They sacked TC as well!

[seanfhear]

Sacked after nine games: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0106/1187968-mccarthy-sacked-hours-after-debut-of-jack-byrne/I wouldn’t even have everything out of the Suitcase !

[seanfhear]

They sacked TC as well!
Hopefully he lands on his feet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arGQtJ9-MBU

[NeverFeltBetter]

Interestingly BBC's slant is that McCarthy has "left" the club as opposed to being sacked.

[elatedscum]

taking over at cardiff apparently.

could be good news for young aaron bolger. in retrospect, would it have been better for Jack Byrne to have signed for Cardiff?

[zero]

taking over at cardiff apparently.

could be good news for young aaron bolger. in retrospect, would it have been better for Jack Byrne to have signed for Cardiff?

Big club for Mick to land, a slight surprise. I'm sure if it doesn't work out in Cyrpus and Mick still fancies him a loan for Byrne could be arranged.

Greg Cunningham is at cardiff also. Their squad doesn't look great in general. His first game looks like being away to Barnsley, familiar territory...

[Diggs246]

Mick was be very highly thought of, he is never without work

[seanfhear]

Mick just can’t get off the Manager Merry Go Round. Most People can’t ever get on it ! !

[Diggs246]

I hope TC likes Cardiff

[Razors left peg]

Mick just can’t get off the Manager Merry Go Round. Most People can’t ever get on it ! !

Amazes me that the same old heads constantly get jobs no matter how many times they are fired.

[Fixer82]

Amazes me that the same old heads constantly get jobs no matter how many times they are fired.

That same old head is good at getting championship teams into the play offs

[tetsujin1979]

Ask Ipswich fans if they're happier now without him.

[Bielsa´s irish]

I have a feeling he might bring James Collins, Duffy, Maguire, Judge etc

[Razors left peg]

Ask Ipswich fans if they're happier now without him.

As an Irish fan I'm happier without him