Sporting Fingal Gone Belly Up

[legendz]

Presumably they'd argue they were the best qualified of the A Championship teams, just as Fingal were when Kilkenny left.

The Genesis Report has been discredited so many ways that it really shouldn't be allowed in any serious discussion.

I wouldn't knock all points made in the report, especially regards a pyramid structure.

[pineapple stu]

Given that the report was seemingly put together by monkeys with typewriters, any vaguely sensible recommendations are likely to be pure chance. Which means that they're perfectly admissable in a discussion if and only if they're separately backed-up. Which means that the Genesis Report - being written by monkeys with typewriters - can be dismissed.

[Schumi]

While lots of mud is thrown at Sporting Fingal, they were lumped into the league ahead of time and have been getting along nicely. Remember they originally went for the A Championship, in the real world they would have started in the 7th level. As it stands our system doesn't work.

More likely, they'd have done an MK Dons and bought out a club at level three or four.

[born2bwild]

Is it? If football was about entertainment and atmosphere then last season we would have had 0 fans. Football is about identifying and supporting your local team. It can be incredibly boring, most clubs dont have a great atmosphere every game, but it's part of what you are, so you go and you support YOUR team. And when the good times and entertainment comes it's all the sweeter.

For any die hard football fan it's about a lot more than entertainment and atmosphere. To casual fans and teenagers you may be right.

None of the above shows any reason for excluding Monaghan though. If we excluded every club that wasn't entertaining or had a good atmosphere then we'd be left with about 3 clubs a year.
Football properly played - the kind of attacking, passing, skillful way that Fingal play - is by definition entertaining. It's hardly something that only teenagers and casual fans find important. Fingal play the game as it should be played and for that reason if we do go t**s up then it'll be a tragedy for the league. Fingal's support increased steadily over 2010, due to large part to how they play the game. We're doing the right thing. Attendences will grow because people want to see the beautiful game played beautifully.

[born2bwild]

No disrespect to Fingal fans but I wouldn't be sorry to see them going belly up. Whats their average home attendance? When they went 2-1 up against Shams in a Dublin derby in Tallaght you would imagine their fans would have gone mad, all eight of them did alright! Surely they are relying on European qualification to fund themselves for next season. They have a handful of fans and should they qualify for Europe, they would only be depriving Sligo Rovers or Pats fans a European adventure that their seasons truely deserve.
There were 100 + of us at that match. A few more than '8' or a 'handful'. Numbers are growing all the time...wait and see!

[BonnieShels]

We are waiting...
Hopped in here thinking that you were making the fabled announcement.
Ah well... we live in hope.
But seriously, b2bw, ye do play a variety of attractive football, but give over your talk, you make it sound like Arsenal are playing in Morton.

[micls]

It's hardly something that only teenagers and casual fans find important.

Who said it was?

There's a difference between finding it important and it being the reason you follow your team.

[RahenyBohs]

Sure they're only new. Support will come along eventually and they're in a catchment area, North County Dublin, where no other clubs have a definite support base.

[total hoofball]

Sure they're only new. Support will come along eventually and they're in a catchment area, North County Dublin, where no other clubs have a definite support base.

Apparently they've enquired to Shels about renting Tolka next season, Sporting Dublin City Council would be a more apt name for the club if that happens

[Charlie Darwin]

Smart move. They really need a bigger stadium.

[marinobohs]

Apparently they've enquired to Shels about renting Tolka next season, Sporting Dublin City Council would be a more apt name for the club if that happens

hardly a major geographical switch if true and certainly unlikely to have much impact on crowds one way or the other. still sourcing a new ground hardly backs up the "fingal going bust theory".

[legendz]

Tolka is more of a footballing stadium, it'd be a good move until they can set-up base in Lusk whenever that might happen.

[pineapple stu]

It's also Shels' home ground; we've seen what's happened Rovers and Dublin City when they've been groundsharing in areas where their rivals are established (as much as anyone in this league is established in their area).

Also, I'd be surprised if Lusk didn't go the way of Bohs, Pat's, Shels, Cork and Drogheda's (and Derry's?) new ground plans. Bit of a trend there...

[peadar1987]

It's also Shels' home ground; we've seen what's happened Rovers and Dublin City when they've been groundsharing in areas where their rivals are established (as much as anyone in this league is established in their area).

Also, I'd be surprised if Lusk didn't go the way of Bohs, Pat's, Shels, Cork and Drogheda's (and Derry's?) new ground plans. Bit of a trend there...

If I were in charge of Fingal, I'd get into Lusk as soon as possible. Even if they had to play in a field. Get onto the site by whatever means you can, throw up a fence, some turnstiles, and a small stand (the Rehab Bingo stand in Bray can't have cost much!), and do the bare minimum to get licensing. All the fancy stuff can come later, but they have to start building their fan base in Lusk now. Could building a small, tidy, interim ground really cost that much more than the rent on Tolka would?

[marinobohs]

It's also Shels' home ground; we've seen what's happened Rovers and Dublin City when they've been groundsharing in areas where their rivals are established (as much as anyone in this league is established in their area).

Also, I'd be surprised if Lusk didn't go the way of Bohs, Pat's, Shels, Cork and Drogheda's (and Derry's?) new ground plans. Bit of a trend there...

yea, agree 100%. I suspect Sporting fingals proposed new stadium may well go "on the long finger" especially as the clubs main funder is hardly likely to be putting much money up. i seem to recall that some deal had been agreed so may be some way up road ?

cant see any new stadia built any time soon given the economic situation

[Lim till i die]

Bohs could try to sell them Dalymount maybe??

[marinobohs]

Bohs could try to sell them Dalymount maybe??

..........Only if they agree to buy it TWICE :cool:

[SkStu]

Bohs could try to sell them Dalymount maybe??

lessons on business administration from a Limerick fan?!?!?! :eek::p

[pineapple stu]

Lessons on business administration from a Limerick fan to a Bohs fan

So I think we can allow it.

[SkStu]

Lessons on business administration from a Limerick fan to a Bohs fan

So I think we can allow it.

hey hey - sure Bohs are in a spot of bother for now but we're not the ones who reformed 37 times or something (thats what the 37 referred to, right?) ;) ;)

[pineapple stu]

Ye've sold the ground close on that many times, so it's much of a muchness really.

(Also - Bohs being in "a spot of bother for now" is the biggest understatement since the look-out on the Titanic asked if anyone wanted an ice cube for their drinks, cos there was one approaching)

[Schumi]

we're not the ones who reformed 37 times or something (thats what the 37 referred to, right?) ;) ;)
Their goal difference in 2004.

[SkStu]

(Also - Bohs being in "a spot of bother for now" is the biggest understatement since the look-out on the Titanic asked if anyone wanted an ice cube for their drinks, cos there was one approaching)

that bit was edited in to my post, just for you. I knew you wouldnt be able to resist... :)

[The Lep]

Apparently they've enquired to Shels about renting Tolka next season, Sporting Dublin City Council would be a more apt name for the club if that happens

Is that just another rumour heads like to pass around every year? The same was said on here at the end of last season. The only time we would use Tolka would be for the euro games .

[Lamper.sffc]

If I were in charge of Fingal, I'd get into Lusk as soon as possible. Even if they had to play in a field. Get onto the site by whatever means you can, throw up a fence, some turnstiles, and a small stand (the Rehab Bingo stand in Bray can't have cost much!), and do the bare minimum to get licensing. All the fancy stuff can come later, but they have to start building their fan base in Lusk now. Could building a small, tidy, interim ground really cost that much more than the rent on Tolka would?

Totaly agree. We need to get into Lusk as soon as possible(as a Rush man, I never thought id hear those words coming from my mouth). Santry has not been good for trying to grow a fan base from fingal. I think we may have a better chance out of santry (not guaranteed though). I think the plan is to try and at least get the pitch in place and some sort of stand. Money was released this year by the council for the project and it was to be started in November, but ill believe it when i see it. The stadium is not just for SF by the way and it was to be built regardless of SF going into it or not. The facility is for all sports in the area including football. Its only since the swords stadium has been put on the long finger that SF where now looking to go into the lusk project.

[Buile Shuibhne]

SPORTING FINGAL may need to cash in on captain Shaun Williams after completing a review of their financial position.

The north county Dublin outfit have confirmed that chief backer Gerry Gannon is reconsidering his involvement in the club three years into a planned five-year term. .........................


http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fingal-likely-to-cash-in-on-williams-after-sponsor-blow-2405011.html

[White Horse]

It would take a huge transfer fee for Williams to replace the cash Fingal got from Gannon and Keelings.

They got 750,000 from Gannon last year. How much from Keelings?

Is there any hope the the council will be able to foot the bill?


Glen Crowe, Gary O'Neill, Eamon Zayed and Colin Hawkins have already been told that their contracts will not be renewed.

Looks like a sign that the current squad is being broken up.

[Buile Shuibhne]

Is there any hope the the council will be able to foot the bill?






With more taxpayers money?

[LeixlipRed]

Made my day anyway :)

[shellyriver]

Wouldn't be sorry to see Fingal go belly up -- all players are mercenaries, but this lot just take the biscuit because there is nothing to be loyal to.

There's already a sufficient number of clubs in Dublin, League needs some of the bigger clubs in the First Division not this vanity project, Sporting Barbie FC - no history, and hopefully no future.

Hopefully the man with the hat and ratepayers in Fingal call the plug on this one.

[Dodge]

Is there any hope the the council will be able to foot the bill?

None at all. All city and county councils around the country are about to have their budgets slashed.

Sports will now be seen as a luxury they can't afford.

[marinobohs]

that bit was edited in to my post, just for you. I knew you wouldnt be able to resist... :)

What ? P Stu whining about Bohs ? Never would have seen that one coming..........:rolleyes:

[The Lep]

Any chance you can move the Bohs argument to another thread :)

Just a quick reply to the shells girls on here who cream themselves everytime there is a mention of Fingal and finances in the papers.

Dont get your hopes up just yet as Fingal will be stronger next year trust me as i know something you dont ;) and you just concentrate on how to get that sad litle club of yours out of the first division .

[Dodge]

Dont get your hopes up just yet as Fingal will be stronger next year trust me as i know something you dont ;)

go on, you're obviously dying for someone to ask you...

[dong]

So why are you trying to offload your squad? some top players as well?

[SwanVsDalton]

Any chance you can move the Bohs argument to another thread :)

Just a quick reply to the shells girls on here who cream themselves everytime there is a mention of Fingal and finances in the papers.

Dont get your hopes up just yet as Fingal will be stronger next year trust me as i know something you dont ;) and you just concentrate on how to get that sad litle club of yours out of the first division .

If I had a penny every time I read a Bohs/Shels/Derry/Cork/Drogheda fan said that on here I'd be able to buy Fingal out.

[Schumi]

Fingal will be stronger next year trust me as i know something you dont ;)

Are you buying Glen Fitzpatrick?

[The Lep]

So why are you trying to offload your squad? some top players as well?

The club isnt trying to offload anyone.

[The Lep]

Are you buying Glen Fitzpatrick?

Me? no.

Fingal? couldnt tell ye. I was hoping for Crowe and Jason Byrne up front next year and maybe that Powell chap thrown in for defence. :)

[pineapple stu]

The club isnt trying to offload anyone.
It's just been reported the club have released four players and will be listening to offers for another.

Are you on a different planet to the rest of us or what?

[The Lep]

Give yourself an infraction there Stu. :) There is a diffrence between Trying to offload players and letting go of players out of contract.

I dont think a moderator should be so abusive on the board Stu. One rule for you and another for us is it?

[SkStu]

Me? no.

Fingal? couldnt tell ye. I was hoping for Crowe and Jason Byrne up front next year and maybe that Powell chap thrown in for defence. :)

fine but will ye be able to afford the zimmerframes on top of their wages?

[pineapple stu]

So you've completely ignored the comments about Williams, yeah?

Maith on fear.

[The Lep]

fine but will ye be able to afford the zimmerframes on top of their wages?

Zimmerframes? thats a bit extreme stu.

[The Lep]

So you've completely ignored the comments about Williams, yeah?

Maith on fear.


Ive ignored a suggestion made in the Indo.

[Mr A]

Zimmerframes? thats a bit extreme stu.

Extreme zimmerframing. This could be the hook that takes the LOI to the next level.

[Schumi]

Extreme zimmerframing. This could be the hook that takes the LOI to the next level.

Zimmerframes v Umbrellas. The final battle!

[Macy]

Are you on a different planet to the rest of us or what?
Planet Bertie?

[The Lep]

Zimmerframes v Umbrellas. The final battle!

If Sporting Fingal had a team in it, id support it :)

[pineapple stu]

Ive ignored a suggestion made in the Indo.
Thank God the country's not going to pot around us, eh?

I was a bit worried when I read all those stories about the recession, but it's alright - they were only in the Indo.