View Full Version : Sporting Fingal Gone Belly Up
Lim till i die
10/02/2011, 1:38 PM
I saw in the papers today that there is talk of a eleven team first division
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Have the FAI anything to say about this latest farce at all? Three and a bit weeks to kick off and nobody knows who's playing where or when or who or how many times.
pineapple stu
10/02/2011, 1:41 PM
Or how many are going up/down.
Cobh lost home and away to Salthill remember. They may decide they're not ready for the step up. On the flip side, with Castlebar and Cobh out of the A League, there'd be less chance of them getting relegated from the First Division.
Lim till i die
10/02/2011, 1:41 PM
Just wondering what club the 20 Fingal fans will choose to support now
Fingal have/had more fans then a good wedge of the clubs in the First Division.
In General, this whole thread is littered with people showering themselves in the glass of their own houses.
Lim till i die
10/02/2011, 1:44 PM
Cobh lost home and away to Salthill remember. They may decide they're not ready for the step up. On the flip side, with Castlebar and Cobh out of the A League, there'd be less chance of them getting relegated from the First Division.
Cobhs team last year were only children from what I saw of them, I'm sure if they were facing into an actual full season of proper League Of Ireland they'd sign a few experienced local heads and be alright duking it out with Salthill, Mervue and the like.
It would be a disgrace if the number of teams was reduced, clubs have budgeted for 33 games.
legendz
10/02/2011, 1:57 PM
I saw in the papers today that there is talk of a eleven team first division what about the likes of cobh who lost the playoff? its sad to see SF go I know Alan Kirby was holdin out for a new club as he was concerned that fingal hasnt got back to him about a new deal and he understandably got nervous.. Its a total sham what happened to SF..They got too ambitious too soon...I wonder will SF end up in the A league or is this the end of SF?
Cobh should get an invite or if someone else drops out, both divisions can have 10 clubs in each. It might just be the way forward...
sparky12345678
10/02/2011, 2:00 PM
quick question.
What do you guys (particularly those who are happy about all this) think will or should happen to the Special Olympics team, the team for the Deaf, and the power soccer and futsal sides....?
legendz
10/02/2011, 2:01 PM
Cobhs team last year were only children from what I saw of them, I'm sure if they were facing into an actual full season of proper League Of Ireland they'd sign a few experienced local heads and be alright duking it out with Salthill, Mervue and the like.
It would be a disgrace if the number of teams was reduced, clubs have budgeted for 33 games.
If the Drog's or Boh's bow out, they can settle for 10 in division one as well and play 36 games like the Premier.
pineapple stu
10/02/2011, 2:02 PM
quick question.
What do you guys (particularly those who are happy about all this) think will or should happen to the Special Olympics team, the team for the Deaf, and the power soccer and futsal sides....?
Can't really see them getting a licence, tbh. The futsal team's pitch would be way too short for starters.
What do you guys (particularly those who are happy about all this) think will or should happen to the Special Olympics team, the team for the Deaf, and the power soccer and futsal sides....?
maybe the club should've thought about them before offering their reserve keeper €700 a week. How ****ing dare you try to make this about the Special Olympics and the Deaf
In General, this whole thread is littered with people showering themselves in the glass of their own houses.
Its like black people calling each other nigg@
Only fans of clubs who are/have been/will in the ****s can slag them
Schumi
10/02/2011, 2:10 PM
quick question.
What do you guys (particularly those who are happy about all this) think will or should happen to the Special Olympics team, the team for the Deaf, and the power soccer and futsal sides....?
Presumably the council will continue to fund them. That sort of stuff was why they were involved in the club, not looking for glory from the first team, right?
Fingalstan
10/02/2011, 2:26 PM
As far as i'm aware the community teams such as the Special Olympics and Powerchair teams will continue as normal. They operate on their own budgets and have their own volunteers so things won't change to much for them. The only difference is that they'll be the main teams of the club now and not the LOI Squad.
if nothing else these teams will be a positive legacy left behind by a club who really did try make a difference in the community. Having been on a programme run by their Community Trust I am grateful to what the club gave me and my family and will sorely miss them.
The situations in Cork and Derry were somewhat diferent but in each case it needed a group ready, willing and able to step up to the plate at short notice, in our case, a grand total of nine days! That whole episode was rough on a few other clubs, too.
The Lep
10/02/2011, 2:29 PM
maybe the club should've thought about them before offering their reserve keeper €700 a week. How ****ing dare you try to make this about the Special Olympics and the Deaf
Have a word Dodge, it was a genuine question he asked and no need for the over reaction .
The Lep
10/02/2011, 2:30 PM
Can't really see them getting a licence, tbh. The futsal team's pitch would be way too short for starters.
Great response as usual Stu.
the sub
10/02/2011, 2:30 PM
Cobhs team last year were only children from what I saw of them, I'm sure if they were facing into an actual full season of proper League Of Ireland they'd sign a few experienced local heads and be alright duking it out with Salthill, Mervue and the like.
It would be a disgrace if the number of teams was reduced, clubs have budgeted for 33 games.
I think they gave u a run for ur money loosing 2-1 u scoring on 93 minute whey cobh had 10 players.. The average age is 19 with some experience cobh loi player now . They finished loosing to salthill who were under pressure in the second half only for their goalkeeper they would have been in the Achampionship ..
Have a word Dodge, it was a genuine question he asked and no need for the over reaction .
I stand by my reaction. its disgusting to use the Special olympics team and the Deaf team when the problem is clearly only with the LOI team. As the LOI team was loss making, there is absolutely no reason why the others can't finction without it.
pathetic to suggest so
Town Legend
10/02/2011, 2:42 PM
If the league promote Drogheda as was mentioned and also Cobh been brought back into the league it would be very unfair on Cobh. They'd have very little time to organise a team fit for LOI. Only case would be to have no relegation play off this season in order to give Cobh a chance at least to organise for next season.
cornflakes
10/02/2011, 2:45 PM
If the league promote Drogheda as was mentioned and also Cobh been brought back into the league it would be very unfair on Cobh. They'd have very little time to organise a team fit for LOI. Only case would be to have no relegation play off this season in order to give Cobh a chance at least to organise for next season.
There will be no division to be relegated into after this year. I doubt there will be a play off
sparky12345678
10/02/2011, 2:51 PM
I stand by my reaction. its disgusting to use the Special olympics team and the Deaf team when the problem is clearly only with the LOI team. As the LOI team was loss making, there is absolutely no reason why the others can't finction without it.
pathetic to suggest so
well it was a genuine question.
i also mentioned the futsal team, i wasnt trying to make a point about teams for those with special needs just making a point that Sporting fingal genuinly had more going for it than just this franchise that people hate so much., that it had other teams representing the club in different leagues. My question was if it collapses and disappears as an entity would the associate teams also disappear.
The Lep
10/02/2011, 2:55 PM
I stand by my reaction. its disgusting to use the Special olympics team and the Deaf team when the problem is clearly only with the LOI team. As the LOI team was loss making, there is absolutely no reason why the others can't finction without it.
pathetic to suggest so
I dont know if you intentionally missed the point been made but the other teams mentioned play under the Sporting Fingal banner and there was no suggestion made about these teams having anything to do with the clubs finances. Calm down there dodge me auld pal.
Dan6189
10/02/2011, 3:15 PM
How must Phil nolan feel, he only left us to become fingals community officer couple weeks ago.
How must Phil nolan feel, he only left us to become fingals community officer couple weeks ago.
He left, and then got a new job
Bit different to leaving us for them (if you know what I mean)
passerrby
10/02/2011, 3:33 PM
quick question.
What do you guys (particularly those who are happy about all this) think will or should happen to the Special Olympics team, the team for the Deaf, and the power soccer and futsal sides....?
as one of those who was happy to see the demise of a developers plans I am a little insulted as the implecation in your question is that I would revel at the end of any of these programs.however i would argue that is was in fact the reckless running of this club that jepodised these programs.
I hope and am sure that fingal co co continue to assist these teams/groups if possible
I dont know if you intentionally missed the point been made but the other teams mentioned play under the Sporting Fingal banner and there was no suggestion made about these teams having anything to do with the clubs finances. Calm down there dodge me auld pal.
the question was asked "what do you guys (particularly those who are happy.."
Which lead me to belive, correctly IMO, that sprky thought mentioning those branches would lead to more compassion for the LOI club's plight. Rather than jsut asking a genuine question
Lamper.sffc
10/02/2011, 4:02 PM
No point in arguing over these things. The thread will just decend into lunacy like so many others. It would be a shame if any of these other projects are affected by SF demise and the blame would lie solely with the club if they are.
good luck to the Fingal fans and i hope that SFFC can find a way to stay around in some fashion and restart from a solid base.
Fingalstan
10/02/2011, 4:58 PM
I think Phil joined up as the commercial manager to source funding for the club, they have a lad Stephen who runs the community side of the club, he worked for the community trust and ran the programmes they designed.
Either way its all academic now they're all out of a job and they join the other 400,000 on the dole. its a shame and a sad day for soccer in fingal and the wider community. hopefully some sort of amatuer set up can be resurrected to save us. we need a club in fingal regardless how small they are to begin with.
D.24saint
10/02/2011, 5:44 PM
Its official they have ceased trading,
Mr_Parker
10/02/2011, 5:45 PM
Its official they have ceased trading,
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0210/sportingfingal.html
legendz
10/02/2011, 5:48 PM
I want to wish Sporting Fingal supporters all the best as well. It's sad to see the demise of any club.
It's a shame the FAI seem intent on bringing the curtain down on the A Championship. It'll have been the best platform for Fingal to rebuild again on what I believed was it's core value: the long-term development of soccer in Fingal.
So is it Monaghan or Drogheda who come up?
Jicked
10/02/2011, 5:52 PM
Amazing that it could come to an end so quickly. Feel sorry for their fans, including the guys on here who seemed genuinely passionate about the club. The *******s went bust before we could ever beat them too!
D.24saint
10/02/2011, 5:59 PM
This collapse shows the complete inadequacies of the FAI,s financial regulations another mess that the paper will love,feel sorry for the genuine Fingal fans the club could have done some good in the fingal area but instead they decided to take the easy road and throw money at it and spend spend spend, its a been a wasted opportunity for football in north county dublin, the blame has to go with Gannon,Buckley and the other directors of the club, they constructed a house built on sand for quick success and imo they got what they deserved the Fans of the club who traveled up and down the country will be a loss to the league we need more of them in this country so if people gloat think how you would feel if your club died on this day!
A face
10/02/2011, 6:00 PM
I just dont understand, with all the clubs on the northside of the city why didn't they just invest the money into an existing club? It was a real 'crash bang' affair with the average Joe on the street asking "what just happened there?". Any club that starts up like that, focusing on players and results instead of the club, its infrastructure, its contribution to its community and striving to spend less that they make is pretty much doomed.
When will LOI learn these lessons?
Rocketman
10/02/2011, 6:00 PM
Its sad to see any club go out of business. Will this affect Bohs as well as they are counting on rent from Sporting Fingal.
as far as i know rocketman, it wont. We apparently were supposed to and did receive some of the payment upfront. The rest was receiveable over the remaining years of the deal. I cant confirm that we did receive the payment however.
BonnieShels
10/02/2011, 6:13 PM
Who will I hate now?
Sean South
10/02/2011, 6:15 PM
Delighted to see to go bust.
sixesandsevens
10/02/2011, 6:26 PM
I know a certain team on the richmond road who would be happy to take on a few extra supporters this season, and a few players too if they're going
peadar1987
10/02/2011, 6:31 PM
Surely this is a sign that the 65% cap just isn't enough. We've lost at least 4 clubs since it's come in, and many more have gone close. We need more stringent financial rules, and we need them to be enforced.
BonnieShels
10/02/2011, 6:35 PM
Well they might've been down there already unless they weren't informed of the cancelled friendly tonight.
Scrufil
10/02/2011, 6:48 PM
I am stunned by this news. There did appear to be a hiccup a week or two ago, but I did not think that this would lead to a complete folding. It begs questions of the FAI to release a statement very soon. I do wonder will this colour how Bohs get treated in the coming season. If anyone gets the nod to go up it should be Monaghan I think, but then again the 'strength of their premier application' might play a part.
I hate to see any League of Ireland club fold and I wish only all the best to Sporting Fingal fans who supported this club.
Commiserations to Sporting Fingal fans. We have stared into the abyss enough times (and indeed it is still uncomfortably close) to have some idea how horrible this must be for you.
In terms of the future, if the FAI have not made a clear statement by close of business tomorrow it will be very disappointing indeed.
Charlie Darwin
10/02/2011, 7:06 PM
Surely this is a sign that the 65% cap just isn't enough. We've lost at least 4 clubs since it's come in, and many more have gone close. We need more stringent financial rules, and we need them to be enforced.
Other countries get by just fine with much less stringent rules than the FAI's. We seem to have the dual-problem of small and poorly-organised supporters (at most clubs) and owners/boards who are intent on following the English spend spend spend model without any of the stabilisers (huge TV revenue, larger crowds) that English clubs enjoy.
Hopefully this is the last of the big-spending, given that so much of the madness that engulfed the league in the last decade was driven by the property boom.
Réiteoir
10/02/2011, 7:32 PM
Quite sad now that the only trace of the team ever existing is in FIFA 11 on the PS3 & XBox...
Lamper.sffc
10/02/2011, 7:40 PM
We gambled instead of taking a step back and consolidating and now the staff, players and fans have to suffer because of a few mens silly decisions. Really gutted at the mo. Really angry too as this could have been avoided and thats a fact.
Best of luck to the rest of the clubs in difficulty.
Lamper.sffc
10/02/2011, 7:42 PM
Quite sad now that the only trace of the team ever existing is in FIFA 11 on the PS3 & XBox...
And on a certain cup :)
athloneman
10/02/2011, 7:48 PM
surely the fai and the licencing committee have to take there share of the blame for fingal failing??? they allowed them enter the league on an unsustainable model which i think 90% of people on here predicted would not work long term but still granted them a licence every year without too many questions, surely fingal and the bohs situation shows that the licencing is basically a joke and is pointless??
Lamper.sffc
10/02/2011, 8:00 PM
It was the failure of the club to cut back accordingly after Gannon was gone that was the major problem. Better to be fighting relegation this season than not fighting at all.
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