Protest

[Emmet7]

Sh!t happens lads get over it.

Had that been Doyler or Keano we would of taken it...Ireland had more than enough chances to win that game...there is always mistakes by referees in football and his decision is final...what makes ye think the rules will be changed for us ?:confused:

Sorry you are wrong.

You know as well as I do, if Keane or Doyle did it, the linesman would have seen it, the ref would have seen it, and most of all the 4th official would have seen it on a monitor and whispered in the refs ear, as per the Zidane sending off in the world cup.

Why is it Robbie Keane was pulled up everytime he handled the ball in the match?

But when Henry handles the ball, he is allowed away with it.

One law for Ireland, another for France.

[superfrank]

Why is it Robbie Keane was pulled up everytime he handled the ball in the match?

But when Henry handles the ball, he is allowed away with it.

One law for Ireland, another for France.
Why wasn't Anelka given a penalty when there was clearly contact between himself and Given?

If there was a conspiracy, that was the perfect opportunity for the refs to "give in" to FIFA.

[Emmet7]

Why wasn't Anelka given a penalty when there was clearly contact between himself and Given?

If there was a conspiracy, that was the perfect opportunity for the refs to "give in" to FIFA.

I wrote another post on another thread.

You know that every ref is watched by a referee's commission that decides if they will be fit for officiating at next year's world cup.

This ref undoubtedly wanted to go to South Africa, right?

Now throughout 90 minutes he is very good makes all the right decisions, nothing too dodgy or anything that would jeprodise his trip to the world cup.

Into extra time and still no sign of France scoring and it's looking like penalties. The ref is hoping not to have to make a bad decision but also that France win since it's been clear for months that FIFA want France to qualify.

Then the dodgy goal and the ref is left with a decision.

Disallow the goal and let the matter be decided on the lottery of penalties or allow the goal and stay in favour with FIFA.

[irishultra]

yet the team with the biggest population in the playoffs is out.

[youngirish]

yet the team with the biggest population in the playoffs is out.

What has population to do with anything? Indonesia didn't qualify either and they have twice the population of Russia. It's to do with TV rights and sponsorship, in short money and France were in these terms miles ahead of anyone else in the play-offs.

If people are seriously suggesting that the likes of Blatter a businessman, not a sports person isn't capable of influencing results to ensure his profit margins are considerably higher this year then they really need to wake up. You are talking about tens of millions of dollars in difference here.

Just look at the series of disgraceful refereeing decisions that ensured the home nation South Korea got to the semis of the 2002 world cup and you'll see Fifa have previous in this regard.

[MariborKev]

YI,

Have you not a grassy knoll to be investigating?

[superfrank]

Into extra time and still no sign of France scoring and it's looking like penalties. The ref is hoping not to have to make a bad decision but also that France win since it's been clear for months that FIFA want France to qualify.
The penalty claim was made in the first-half of extra time. It would have been a penalty and he could have sent Given off as well, making it easier for France. It was the perfect opportunity for him to "do what he's told", as you claim.

That's why I don't believe the refs were trying to push France over the finish line. In fact, I felt Ireland got a lot of 50-50's in the match and he did have a very good game, except for two big decisions, one which went our way and one which went against us.

I've said it before: one missed decision is being blown out of proportion so Irish fans can have a reason to complain and say: "Oh, life is so unfair". After all, what Irish person doesn't like to whinge?

[Stuttgart88]

What irks me just as much is that much of the protest is being led by people who only a few weeks ago looked down their noses at Irish football, if they even looked at it at all.

The only comfort I can take from all this is that the BIG are back, and held in high regard again.

[tiktok]

So...how many foot.ie members were part of the 100 who marched on the embassy?

Did that go ahead?
I must have missed the Worldwide outrage and blanket news coverage we were promised.

[Réiteoir]

However we have a huge match on sunday that to some people is just as important as wednesday night. If Sligo or Fingal lose to an offside goal or a handball will they get a replay?

Don't be silly - this isn't a World Cup playoff match we're talking about here - it's a tinpot little thing masquerading as the National Cup - no doubt played between two teams of plumbers, electricians, milkmen, the unemployed - on a ploughed field in the middle of nowhere to be watched by 3 men and a dog.

Now - if it happened in the Bolton vs. Blackburn game this afternoon - then that's a different story altogether

[Stuttgart88]

If Sligo or Fingal lose to a handball will they get a replay?

Only if the offending team is so embarrassed by the crassness of the offence that they offer a replay. Unlikely as everyone knows.

[jebus]

Sorry you are wrong.

You know as well as I do, if Keane or Doyle did it, the linesman would have seen it, the ref would have seen it, and most of all the 4th official would have seen it on a monitor and whispered in the refs ear, as per the Zidane sending off in the world cup.

Why is it Robbie Keane was pulled up everytime he handled the ball in the match?

But when Henry handles the ball, he is allowed away with it.

One law for Ireland, another for France.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry on here sometimes

[roinuj]

some wacko on the radio this morning demanding a street name change for henry street in dublin :D

[youngirish]

The penalty claim was made in the first-half of extra time. It would have been a penalty and he could have sent Given off as well, making it easier for France. It was the perfect opportunity for him to "do what he's told", as you claim.

That's why I don't believe the refs were trying to push France over the finish line. In fact, I felt Ireland got a lot of 50-50's in the match and he did have a very good game, except for two big decisions, one which went our way and one which went against us.

I've said it before: one missed decision is being blown out of proportion so Irish fans can have a reason to complain and say: "Oh, life is so unfair". After all, what Irish person doesn't like to whinge?

It was four decisions. Two offsides and two handballs. The penalty was an obvious dive. Maybe he was hoping a better opportunity to ease France through would come along at that stage of the game. Perhaps he didn't realise the handball was as blatant as it actually was. Who knows but either way we have been cheated by the corporate executives at Fifa.

I actually don't care for a replay but people dismissing it as conspiracy that Fifa are not capable of ensuring that France had as much help as possible and that they get their tens of millions in revenue are as naive as they come and know nothing about football and it's history (or sports in general). I didn't think the ref was particularly good either. He gave the French free kicks out everytime there was a 50/50 near their box.

[superfrank]

Maybe he was hoping a better opportunity to ease France through would come along at that stage of the game.
I disagree. It was a perfect opportunity for him to give France a peno and also reduce Ireland to ten men and surely guaranteeing France a safe passage and satisfying his bosses, as theorists claim he wanted to do. Yet he didn't do it.

If the conspiracy theory held any weight, he would have not only given France the penalty and a brilliant chance to score but he would also have sent off our keeper, who is head and shoulders above what was on the bench.

If he knew the clock was ticking down and he had to get the ball into the net for the French, he would've given the peno as it actually looked like a believable one. The replay shows there was contact.

Perhaps he didn't realise the handball was as blatant as it actually was.
From what I've seen, he couldn't see the incident.

Should he automatically assume players are cheating whenever he can't see the play?

Is he supposed to discredit the goal just because the team which conceded start screaming that it was handball?

He didn't see the handball and he wasn't told anything by his linesman. All he saw was the ball go in the net. He's seen nothing to think it was illegal. What is he expected to do?

[jebus]

some wacko on the radio this morning demanding a street name change for henry street in dublin :D

No worse than some of the stuff I've seen on here these past few days to be fair

[Réiteoir]

He didn't see the handball and he wasn't told anything by his linesman. All he saw was the ball go in the net. He's seen nothing to think it was illegal. What is he expected to do?

Stop the game, go to the touchline, phone some pub in the middle of rural Offaly and ask the Landlord to take a vote amongst his customers watching the match?

[tricky_colour]

How about organising a series of demonatrations and interuptions at the world cup finals, ie a green lepracaun running onto the pitch, grabbing the ball and throwing it into the French net?


That would give Blatter something to think about.

[elroy]

WUM

But still no no and no. There is a proper means to make a reasoned argument for change to prevent the injustice that occured but certainly not in the way you have suggested.

[tricky_colour]

Blatter ruined our tournement, I don't see why shouldn't ruin his.
It would be something to look forward to at the finals and shame FIFA.

[sligoman]

Pay for my flight and hotel and I'll do it;)

[Gather round]

How about organising a series of demonatrations and interuptions at the wrold cup finals, ie a green lepracaun running onto the pitch, grabbing the ball and throwing it into the French net?


At the Spain-NI qualifier in October 2002 (halfway through the two year goal drought :mad:), one of our fans ran on at half-time from a home fans' section. Taking possession on half-way, he slalomed past two of the Spanish subs before scoring neatly- although the sub keeper (Canizares AFAIR) actually dived full length in a vain effort to save. Senor Dallas was shortly arrested but kept in the stadium's cells only until full time- the local Police apparently thought it hilarious ;)

[tricky_colour]

At the Spain-NI qualifier in October 2002 (halfway through the two year goal drought :mad:), one of our fans ran on at half-time from a home fans' section. Taking possession on half-way, he slalomed past two of the Spanish subs before scoring neatly- although the sub keeper (Canizares AFAIR) actually dived full length in a vain effort to save. Senor Dallas was shortly arrested but kept in the stadium's cells only until full time- the local Police apparently thought it hilarious ;)


I would love to see that, is there any video of it?

[osarusan]

It would be something to look forward to at the finals and shame FIFA.
It would shame Ireland, not FIFA.

[Emmet7]

There is a proper means to make a reasoned argument for change to prevent the injustice that occured but certainly not in the way you have suggested.

You do realise FIFA are a very corrupt organisation lead by businessmen who exploit the game of soccer for personal financial benefit.

You cannot have a reasoned argument with FIFA.

They say one thing to your face, eg about Fair Play, while they are scheming to stab you in the back, eg the seedings. There was zero fair play in the seedings. Lesser teams who played above themselves in the qualifying campaign were forced into a draw which was biased towards the bigger nations for the sole reason that FIFA wanted to keep sponsors happy.

FIFA has become a joke of an organisation and Blatter is decades out of touch. 95% of people down to the grassroots believe it's time for the use of video technology, yet Blatter, who got the job by buying off friends and opponents, remains fundamentally opposed to the use of video technology.

Maybe it's because while you can put pressure on a ref to award a goal or disallow it, you cannot influence a video replay, and ultimately video replays would introduce accountability into the game for refs, 4th officials and FIFA, and FIFA do not want that.

As for 5 officals at the world cup, it won't happen, FIFA will come up with some way to stop it. I personally think having a ref on either goal line intrudes much more on the game than someone out of site up in TMO box.

[sligoman]

ie a green lepracaun running onto the pitch, grabbing the ball and throwing it into the French net?Was this you?

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/08/30/PGmarathonpest3_gallery__476x550.jpg

[tricky_colour]

Was this you?

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/08/30/PGmarathonpest3_gallery__476x550.jpg


Nope but I would certainly sign him up.

[Acornvilla]

Was this you?

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/08/30/PGmarathonpest3_gallery__476x550.jpg
that fella was my mams parish preast and was her teacher in primary school :) haha

[tricky_colour]

He was on Britains got Talent IIRC?

[sligorover]

Vanderlei de Lima taught at your mother's school?

[Ciaran W]

Oh ye go over there and make a fool of ourselves and act like sore losers,good man !

[Manc Irish Wolf]

He was on Britains got Talent IIRC?

He was also in Paris dancing for Peace and for the Boys outside O'Sullivans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmRiom7RY4

If ever there was a lunatic to sign up to your plight - he's your man.

[Torn-Ado]

It would shame Ireland, not FIFA.

True. But it would be funny though.

[tricky_colour]

Yes he is certaintly a man who knows how to make a protest, I am sure he could do something to grab the headlines in S Africa.

[SkStu]

please dont let this thread be serious.

[backstothewall]

An idea I heard that i thought had merit was renting one of those planes that pull the banners behind them to fly above the stadiums during appropriate games. Dignified, and guaranteed to get the media looking

[tricky_colour]

Crashing it into the cup presentation ceromeny would be a step too far though, even if it would grab the headlines.

[rerun]

Senor Dallas was shortly arrested but kept in the stadium's cells only until full time- the local Police apparently thought it hilarious ;)

Eh, what stadium was that? I try to avoid the ones with their own cells :eek:

[endabob1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollsmoor_Prison

http://www.skyoneonline.co.uk/rosskempgangs/videos-capetown.html

Pretty boy like you'd be REAL popular in Pollsmoor.......

[Pauro 76]

He was also in Paris dancing for Peace and for the Boys outside O'Sullivans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmRiom7RY4

If ever there was a lunatic to sign up to your plight - he's your man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Horan

Don't enourage the loony....

[Gather round]

Eh, what stadium was that? I try to avoid the ones with their own cells :eek:

Heh. It was at Albacete (halfway between Madrid and Valencia). There may be video of Dallas's 'goal' on youtube.

Top tip for your next visit to Espana- don't take a half-half banner celebrating [Irish club side]/ Barcelona. The Real Madrid nutters won't like it.

[harpskid]

How about organising a series of demonatrations and interuptions at the world cup finals, ie a green lepracaun running onto the pitch, grabbing the ball and throwing it into the French net?


That would give Blatter something to think about.


Oh dear Lord, tell me you're not being anywhere near serious?