France V Ireland - Wednesday, 18th November 2009 - World Cup 2010 Playoff Second Leg

[markmc]

Henry should be given a very long ban for unsporting behaviour.

[Giuly]

For sure, Shumachers foul was a shame.

[old git]

Also if you follow this link you'll hear Henry admit it was a handball, that he admitted it on the pitch but that he's not the ref, he can't change a thing or decide what should be given or not

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/8367418.st (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/8367418.stm)

Hopefully he gets hung for this :rolleyes:

a load of sh**e by henry he not the ref he can't change a thing or deceide what should be given or not .. he deceided to handle ball twice his decision and he still had not even got the honesty to admit it tv interview when asked about handball he said he handled ball but it was not deliberate ... a cheat & a liar hopefully fifa will now punish him but i would not be to surpised to see nothing hapen :mad:

[endabob1]

FIFA will do nothing, they wanted France, they don't care how. No one else really cares, in 7 months time the WC will be on and no one outside of Ireland will be thinking about Henry's handball

[OneRedArmy]

I handled it.

[Giuly]

Punished for what? Robbie Keane spent half the game playing with his hands. The only difference is that the ref caught it.


FIFA will do nothing, they wanted France, they don't care how.

Conspiracy theory.. please grow up a little

[endabob1]

Thierry Henry did not seek to free himself from blame. "Yes, there was a hand" on the action that led to the equalization of William Gallas (104th). But no matter how, seems to say the captain of the Blues, "the most important thing was to qualify."

[SeanDrog]

:D

at least they are to the point

[pineapple stu]

Interesting that the UEFA website report (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/worldcup/fixturesresults/round=15219/match=2001478/report=rp.html) mentions nothing of the handball at all. Sterile, thank-God-the-seeded-team-won drivelous reporting.

Edit - I see there's already a thread on this. Doh!

[Leeside Swagger]

Punished for what? Robbie Keane spent half the game playing with his hands. The only difference is that the ref caught it.

Nowhere near as blatent as Henrys one though. Why did the officials see Keanes minor ball to hand ones and miss the most obvious one?

[endabob1]

Conspiracy theory.. please grow up a little

No conspiracy theory
They changed the rules to suit france & Portugal.
They don't even mention the handball on their website or match report, despite it being headline front page news everywhere else.

The evidence suggests they wanted France to qualify & their reactions suggest they don't care how and less of the patronising "grow up a little"

[Duggie]

Punished for what? Robbie Keane spent half the game playing with his hands. The only difference is that the ref caught it.

giuly as you say i dont think henry should be punished. he got away with it i dont blame him. the ref and the linesman are the culprits. the linesman had to have seen it but probably didnt want to upset the french and let it go. it was so blatent thats what makes it sickening. i will say 1 thing about the french, your supporters are a joke. seriously. no passion. 15000 irish and there the only ones i could hear at home. look at the bond between players and fans at the end. were all gutted but no one cares outside ireland.

[old git]

FIFA will do nothing, they wanted France, they don't care how. No one else really cares, in 7 months time the WC will be on and no one outside of Ireland will be thinking about Henry's handball

anybody else feel like contacting fifa to let of a bit of steam

Fédération Internationale de Football Association

FIFA-Strasse 20,
P.O. Box 8044 Zurich, Switzerland
Tel : +41-(0)43 222 7777,
Fax : +41-(0)43 222 7878.

http://www.fifa.com/contact/form.html e-mail contact details

just to p*ss them off we all irish fans should email / phone / fax
send copies of papers / t.v replays showing this blatent act of cheating :D:D

[DeNiro]

Thierry Henry n'a pas cherché à se disculper. «Oui, il y avait main» sur l'action qui a amené l'égalisation de William Gallas (104e). Mais peu importe la manière, semble dire le capitaine des Bleus, «le plus important était de se qualifier».


I speak French. Here's the top paragraph

Thierry Henry did not look to exonerate himself. 'Yes, I used my hand' in the lead-up to William Gallas' equaliser in 104 min. But the French captain appeared to play down the incident, saying 'the most important thing was to qualify' :rolleyes:

[Fixer82]

"We suffered for two years. We have been having some problems with our press, our fans, with other people," Henry said. "It would have been better to do it in another way, but as I said, I'm not the ref."

says it all really. makes me even more depressed

[Duggie]

in fairness whats henry going to say. he handled it, he said he did. there going to the world cup were not. he couldnt care less, or anyone else other than us.:(

[DeNiro]

I hope FIFA don't use France or any of its players in any fair play advertisement or promotion for SA 2010

[as_i_say]

Muppet post

Its not a muppet post its just fact. Keane is a great player and a great Irishman but he is not WORLD class and that is why we couldnt finish them off because we dont have any world class players.

I'm not sure how the qualification works for the euros 2012 but if it is the same as last time and the top 2 qualify then we can go into that tournament with many players at their peak and full of confidence.

[centre mid]

Punished for what? Robbie Keane spent half the game playing with his hands. The only difference is that the ref caught it.

I thought it was Henry that caught it.

[as_i_say]

Conspiracy theory.. please grow up a little

Conspiracy Thierry is what he meant.

[Giuly]

1 thing about the french, your supporters are a joke

Sure. i'd prefere the french games played in stade Velodrome in Marseille for passion. Still, we're more a football nation than you are.. Look at Irish first league, it's poor.

[Ozymandias]

Henry wasnt even celebrating at the end of the match, looked like he was apologising to Dunne when he sat down beside him at the end

he celebrated the goal though...ran around the net on his own to the french fans...sickened

[centre mid]

Giuly

Are there no French fans sites you could be annoying people on?

[Maroon 7]

It was a handball, but I'm not the ref. I told [the referee] but he said to me the same: 'You are not the ref.Henry now saying he told the ref it was handball. Anyone believe him? Considering he sprinted off celebrating like he had scored the winner in the World Cup final I have my doubts. If he did tell the ref it was probably at the final whistle when he knew nothing could be done about it.

[Den Perry]

Typical Keane does something good then turns around and does something stupid. His stupid decision to take it around the keeper when he had the time to shoot or lift it over the keeper was the real reason Ireland are out of the WC Finals. It gave the french renewed confidence and they controlled the game ater that and the Irish team were gutted after it even though they still played out of their skins. Robbie Keane is NOT a top striker as Liverpool found out last year,he may score the odd goal or two but he will miss the most important ones due to his stupid decisions and attempts at glory. When he was most needed tonight he failed. I know he works hard but his inital job is to put them away especially at crucial times of the match. Kudos for his goal but when it mattered most he bottled it.

What a ridiculous post...

Personally I thought all starting 11 did brilliantly. I have criticised the central midfield before, but thought Andrews was brilliant and Whelan was a huge loss when he came off.

I know we were cheated and the goal should not have been allowed,but, for the love of God, how is Mcshane a professional footballer?Even when he only plays part of a match he makes vital errors...

[Fixer82]

Conspiracy theory.. please grow up a little

The conspiracy theories began when FIFA went back on their word to have an open draw and decided to seed teams so that the top four would play the bottom four of the 2nd placed teams. Now why on earth would they do that?
They didnt want Portugal and France to play each other.

I don't think the ref or linesman was intentionally trying to get Ireland beaten though. If so they would've given Anelka's peno claim. and indeed Evra's in the first game.

[Murfinator]

Censorship at its finest, FIFA will attempt to brush this under the carpet for a while and not address the issue. It's up to us to kick up an almighty stink so that it can't be ignored.

[Duggie]

Henry now saying he told the ref it was handball. Anyone believe him? Considering he sprinted off celebrating like he had scored the winner in the World Cup final I have my doubts. If he did tell the ref it was probably at the final whistle when he knew nothing could be done about it.

course he didnt tell him.

[Den Perry]

Thats it. Go on anyones message board whether it be German, English, Italian. They are all saying the same thing. It makes a mockery of football if this result is allowed to stand.


can anybody give me the address of some good French or English websites / boards that are discussing this?

cheers

[Giuly]

Giuly

Are there no French fans sites you could be annoying people on?

I'm only registered on Lille football Forum. My home team. Now i only give my opinion, i'm being polite, stupid man.


can anybody give me the address of some good French or English websites / boards that are discussing this?

cheers

http://garagepl.forumactif.com/forum.htm

come on, we're having fun.

[bogwarrior]

[QUOTE=gally;1276430]Givens.......8
O'Shea......9
Dunne.......9
QUOTE]
I thought Givens was a striker?!:p

On a serious note I'm glad Dunphy mentioned the state of the u21's. Absolutely criminal.

[markmc]

can anybody give me the address of some good French or English websites / boards that are discussing this?

cheers

Give their embassy a call, or send em a fax...

Ambassade de France en Irlande, 36 Ailesbury road - Ballsbridge - DUBLIN 4
Tel : 00 353 1 277 5000 Fax : 00 353 1 277 5001

[Den Perry]

The conspiracy theories began when FIFA went back on their word to have an open draw and decided to seed teams so that the top four would play the bottom four of the 2nd placed teams. Now why on earth would they do that?
They didnt want Portugal and France to play each other.

I don't think the ref or linesman was intentionally trying to get Ireland beaten though. If so they would've given Anelka's peno claim. and indeed Evra's in the first game.


Some bloke called Alex from FIFA on Ray D'arcy show (of all things) saying that the seeding of play-offs was decided in 2007? is this true or was there a definite change of rules?

On the same show somebody stated that we should all boycott Gillett products...

It would be interesting if thousands mailed the Gillett and Reebok(Henry wears reebok boots I think?) marketing departments stating we would no longer buy their products while the have a cheat advertising them.

I know under contract law they probably couldn't sack him but it may make them think twice about offering him any new deals...this could snowball, not just the Irish market they'd lose, as I'm sure a lot of fans worldwide are sickened by Henry.

He is a cheat and a liar. He said in his press conferance that it was an accident - proof he is a liar. I also heard that prior to yesterday's game he accused Andrews and Trap of lying ver the Diarra incident? Think we all know who the liar is now...

[KK77]

Brady just called for replay on RTE radio there.. Some chance of that happening!

[pineapple stu]

Why wouldn't they? Sure nothing happened.

[markmc]

Brady just called for replay on RTE radio there.. Some chance of that happening!

According to Pat Kenny FIFA ordered a replay of an Asian qualifier due to a bad ref decision in 2005.

[Duggie]

According to Pat Kenny FIFA ordered a replay of an Asian qualifier due to a bad ref decision in 2005.

dont think that will be happening this time....

[Ozymandias]

dont think that will be happening this time....

I agree...their will be no replay..the asian issue didn't bother FIFA as the two teams were not a major power in world football....Blatter also wants to keep Platini onside

[Fixer82]

yeah I was happy to hear that too. Not down to the squad, down to Givens...

[Fr Damo]

Brady is only trying to stirr things.... have no time for him tbh on the back of the Andy Reid thing. as for Reebok and Gillette, nice idea but they couldn't give a toss for the market share of 4m people they supply in Ireland! Tiny, Tiny market.

These type of hand balls go on in games all the time, ok in the center circle they don't really matter but some else posted earlier that to say it was instinct and I kinda agree. What I have a problem with is they way he celebrated, shows he was happy to cheat initially. In the cold light of day after the final whistle Henry looked soo guilty and Dunne showed what a man he is by not tellling henry to pis* off when he sat down with him. The Irish team are a team of men...... in every sence.

[MunsterMunch]

Givens.......8
O'Shea......9
Dunne.......9
St Ledger ..9.5
Kilbane......9
Lawrence...9
Whelan......8
Andrews....8
Duff..........9
Keane.......9
Doyle........9

Subs
Gibson.......8
McShane....8
McGeady....7.5
I have never been so proud of a performance in the last 40 years......

You can't have 8's for Gibson and McShane! McShane shouldnt have let the ball bounce and was at fault for the goal IMO. Gibson never really got into the game.

Givens.......9
O'Shea......9
Dunne.......10
St Ledger ..10
Kilbane......8
Lawrence...9
Whelan......8
Andrews....9
Duff..........9
Keane.......9
Doyle........8

Subs
Gibson.......6
McShane....5
McGeady....6.5

[markmc]

Can the FAI take this to the court of arbitration for sport?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_of_Arbitration_for_Sport

[tricky_colour]

They got there by cheating, what kind of message does that send out to the world?

What kind of message does that send out to children?

FIFA should be sacked, they are not fit to run a brothel.

[backstothewall]

A terrible one. Of course they should.

Never going to happen. Move on.

[centre mid]

They wont get through the group stage, cant defend.

[tricky_colour]

They wont get through the group stage, cant defend.

The idea is we go instead ;)

[tiktok]

Yes, they definitely should.

Argentina should also hand back the 1986 World Cup because of Diego Maradonna's hand of God incident, England should be awarded the trophy.

[Dodge]

Clam down. its an official thing., They're never, ever, ever going to crticise referees on it

[endabob1]

Argentina should also hand back the 1986 World Cup because of Diego Maradonna's hand of God incident, England should be awarded the trophy.

Easy now, I hope that's the drink talking :D

[tricky_colour]

Indeed, we either play a fair game or what is the point of playing at all, you may as well hand the trophy to the country with the most money.

Basicaly just make it like America Wrestling, that's the sort of stuff the yanks like, fake staged nonsense. Think of the money.

Maybe make Sepp Blatter a big clown in a costume, like Ronald McDonald, to make the game appeal to children?