Don't mean to be negative....

[Emmet7]

It's not going to happen. We will get more of the same in Paris. Plenty of effort and industry. No clinical finishing. Weaknesses in defence which may lead to a French goal. A midfield that will probably tire. Wingers who will play nice football to please the purists but with little in the way of an end product.

France again struggle in the first half but in the second when they settle into the game turn on the style and finish the match quite comfortable as we struggle with our old problems of inability to score from open play.

[seanfhear]

Where are people getting this from, just look at the qualifiers, We Drew with Italy at home and away, we Drew with Bulgaria home and away, we beat George and Cyprus home and away and we drew with Montenegro home and away, How is that better,

We have nothing to bring in that will make our attacking play any better, In the very unlikely event that we do score the French can just go up another gear or bring on class from the bench to turn it around,

We have NO chance

Remind me to shoot you if we ever have to go into battle together.

Your team talk would be very inspiring. It would probably go like

"Ye are rubish and its only a matter of how much you are going to be beaten by." (might be better if you leave the leadership of men to a man son)

[Morbo]

It was best's loss of possesion which led to the goal, he gives the ball away far too ofte
n, not in the same class as Doyle at all. Folan is a viable alternative to Doyle but Best isn't.

[Emmet7]

Remind me to shoot you if we ever have to go into battle together.

Your team talk would be very inspiring. It would probably go like

"Ye are rubish and its only a matter of how much you are going to be beaten by." (might be better if you leave the leadership of men to a man son)

I don't think that's fair. He is pointing out weaknesses we have. We can either do as the two previous Irish managers did and bury heads in the sand and deny we need to change things or we can leave things the same and watch as we get worse and worse.

We have weaknesses in defence, we have weaknesses in midfield and we have weaknesses in attack. That's blatently apparant and to deny that will not fix the problem.

[PartySaint]

Remind me to shoot you if we ever have to go into battle together.

Your team talk would be very inspiring. It would probably go like

"Ye are rubish and its only a matter of how much you are going to be beaten by." (might be better if you leave the leadership of men to a man son)

We will see who is right on wednesday night then son

[Emmet7]

It was best's loss of possesion which led to the goal, he gives the ball away far too ofte
n, not in the same class as Doyle at all. Folan is a viable alternative to Doyle but Best isn't.

What I saw was Kilbane hoof it down the field, a nothing ball. I later saw Anelka pick it up on the edge of the box and for the umpteenth time in this campaign Kilbane being the nearest player and stood off him rather than rushing to close him down. Needless to say a goal was inevitable because of that.

[PartySaint]

What I saw was Kilbane hoof it down the field, a nothing ball. I later saw Anelka pick it up on the edge of the box and for the umpteenth time in this campaign Kilbane being the nearest player and stood off him rather than rushing to close him down. Needless to say a goal was inevitable because of that.

St Ledger should have got closer for me, Championship defender against a premiership striker, it showed

[seanfhear]

I don't think that's fair. He is pointing out weaknesses we have. We can either do as the two previous Irish managers did and bury heads in the sand and deny we need to change things or we can leave things the same and watch as we get worse and worse.

We have weaknesses in defence, we have weaknesses in midfield and we have weaknesses in attack. That's blatently apparant and to deny that will not fix the problem.
You do not lead people into competition/battle telling them they ae going to lose.

If you do not believe that you have the ability to lead them to victory then step aside (shut up might also be a good idea) and let some one who believes that they have the ability to lead his team to success take over.

The so called fans of a team telling the team and other supporters that the team are going to lose is pretty much the opposite of supporting.

These kind of people should be called detractors.

Do you think Ireland has world class players for all these positions playing for some fantasy team and ready to materialise in a few days time

[Emmet7]

You do not lead people into competition/battle telling them they ae going to lose.

If you do not believe that you have the ability to lead them to victory then step aside (shut up might also be a good idea) and let some one who believes that they have the ability to lead his team to success take over.

The so called fans of a team telling the team and other supporters that the team are going to lose is pretty much the opposite of supporting.

These kind of people should be called detractors.

Do you think Ireland has world class players for all these positions playing for some fantasy team and ready to materialise in a few days time

If football matches were decided on positivity, optimism and hope we would have won 10-0 last night.

We made mistakes last night and we need changes in the team. It's something that has to be faced up to. Sending out the same 11 again in the same positions again in Paris will probably not deliver us a win. As I said, we know what to expect at this stage from those players. Lots of industry, lots of keeping it tight, a number of basic defensive mistakes, lots of running by forwards into cul de sacs, lots of crosses into the box with no-one in the box to receive it and so on.

Telling limited players they are world class will not make them world class. Telling limited players about the mistakes they are making and what they should do to solve them may well make them eventually world class. You have to be honest and tell it as it is.

[jo84]

We have NO chance


I take it you wont be watching the game then? Wouldnt be much point, since we've no chance.

[seanfhear]

If football matches were decided on positivity, optimism and hope we would have won 10-0 last night.

We made mistakes last night and we need changes in the team. It's something that has to be faced up to. Sending out the same 11 again in the same positions again in Paris will probably not deliver us a win. As I said, we know what to expect at this stage from those players. Lots of industry, lots of keeping it tight, a number of basic defensive mistakes, lots of running by forwards into cul de sacs, lots of crosses into the box with no-one in the box to receive it and so on.

Telling limited players they are world class will not make them world class. Telling limited players about the mistakes they are making and what they should do to solve them may well make them eventually world class. You have to be honest and tell it as it is.
Is the international transfer window open before Wednesday then ?;)

Some managers get the best out of the players that they have. They don't normally spend their time telling them how useless the are though.

[Morbo]

What I saw was Kilbane hoof it down the field, a nothing ball. I later saw Anelka pick it up on the edge of the box and for the umpteenth time in this campaign Kilbane being the nearest player and stood off him rather than rushing to close him down. Needless to say a goal was inevitable because of that.

You can't blame Killer for that one, Best gave away the ball needlessly which led to a scramble and Kilbane being forced under pressure to hoof it, if Best hadn't givrn it away he wouldn't have being In that position so the fault lies with Best not Kilbane.

[PartySaint]

I take it you wont be watching the game then? Wouldnt be much point, since we've no chance.

I will watch and just hope im wrong, its only an opinion folks some people taking it to heart

[Emmet7]

Kilbane had acres of space and time. Instead of putting his foot on the ball and looking up for the nearest Irish player, he kept his head down and hoofed it long and aimed at no-one. As Souness said, it was another example of us giving away the ball cheaply. Maybe Best gave it away cheaply I don't know, but Kilbane is a very senior player and should have done better.

The main thing is, Doyle did his usual industry and stuff, but once more as in Bari and as in Dublin against Italy, he never seriously looked like scoring. Trap was 100% right to take him off in all 3 games. The Keane-Doyle partnership has been useless against any half decent team. 1 goal between them from our 7 biggest games so far. Not good enough.

Trap must surely recognise now it's not going to deliver anything in Paris. Even though we'd all love it to deliver something we have to be realistic about it and say it's not going to do anything.

What is bizarre is that people including the RTE panelists think Doyle should have been left on in those 3 games when he didn't have one shot on or off target and looked extremely unlikely that he was ever going to score.

Trap cannot leave a player on and gambe that suddenly he will create a chance, when for several games previously he has done nothing to threathen the other teams goal.

[jo84]

I will watch and just hope im wrong, its only an opinion folks some people taking it to heart


No, its just minds are fragile now after last nights defeat, to think all our hopes come down to one match in Paris... at least your being honest and not faking optimism i suppose