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stubroon
27/10/2009, 9:10 PM
Hi
It's been reported in local press over here that Sean Connor has been interviewed for the vacant managers job at Greenock Morton (Scottish First Division) http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/morton/articles/2009/10/27/393318-surprise-asirish-boss-interviewed-for-morton-job/. I was wondering how highly rated he is by you guys and what we should expect if he gets the job.
Cheers
Stu
sligored
27/10/2009, 9:12 PM
a proposed friendly with birmingham city and a lot of red cards for starters
sligofan4ever
27/10/2009, 9:14 PM
Hi
It's been reported in local press over here that Sean Connor has been interviewed for the vacant managers job at Greenock Morton (Scottish First Division) http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/morton/articles/2009/10/27/393318-surprise-asirish-boss-interviewed-for-morton-job/. I was wondering how highly rated he is by you guys and what we should expect if he gets the job.
Cheers
Stu
Harpal Singh,Darren Mansaram,Liam Burns and Chris Turner.
brianw82
27/10/2009, 9:16 PM
Lots of excuses for any bad performances.
Female employees can expect invitations for 'thank you' dinners.
Boo_Boy
27/10/2009, 9:17 PM
http://www.clydeandforthmedia.co.uk/crop/280/210/images/25/1256640756.jpg
Great picture in that article.
mcgonigle
27/10/2009, 9:17 PM
Oh the Sligo and Bohs boys will be drooling at the mouth with this, as you can see above!
Dillonman
27/10/2009, 9:21 PM
I would have thought Joe Miller would have got there ahead of Sean. He is on the market at the present minute like! All in all Connor is on a 1 year rolling contract so if he where to get it, its a nice time to be considered as theres only two weeks left!
brianw82
27/10/2009, 9:24 PM
Seriously, opinion is divided on him. He took us up from the 1st Division in '05, but his detractors will say he could hardly not have done so, as his budget was by far the biggest in the division.
At Bohs, most of the players that won the double last season were signed by him the previous season. They also finished several places higher in the table under Connor in '07 than the previous year. His opponents will say that he didn't get enough out of the talent he did have (as Fenlon did in '08) and that some of the players were very unfit.
His training regime has also been highly criticised as too lax. Dundalk's disciplinary record this season has been abysmal. Having said that, his stated goal this season was to keep Dundalk in the Premier, which he has done.
Make of all that what you will. Personally, slagging aside, I think he's done a decent job at Dundalk.
Celdrog
27/10/2009, 9:52 PM
I would have thought Joe Miller would have got there ahead of Sean. He is on the market at the present minute like! All in all Connor is on a 1 year rolling contract so if he where to get it, its a nice time to be considered as theres only two weeks left!A one year rolling contract means there is always 12 months left on it, isn't it?
Would Dundalk be due 12 months salary as compensation? (If Morton were able to pay it). Could be a nice windfall.
BohsPartisan
27/10/2009, 9:56 PM
There's only one word to describe this man (actually there is more than one word but this is a family friendly forum ;) ) - SPOOFER!
sheao
27/10/2009, 10:00 PM
This is a bit of a shock, nobody could say they saw this coming.
PartySaint
27/10/2009, 10:01 PM
http://www.clydeandforthmedia.co.uk/crop/280/210/images/25/1256640756.jpg
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One Hundred and Eightyyyyyyyyy
Dillonman
27/10/2009, 10:06 PM
There's only one word to describe this man (actually there is more than one word but this is a family friendly forum ;) ) - SPOOFER!
In what way, that its Sean Connor who told the greenock paper to write that piece up and a greenock fan to post here that hes away to Scotland! Get real will ya!
MeathDrog
27/10/2009, 10:10 PM
Hi
It's been reported in local press over here that Sean Connor has been interviewed for the vacant managers job at Greenock Morton (Scottish First Division) http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/morton/articles/2009/10/27/393318-surprise-asirish-boss-interviewed-for-morton-job/. I was wondering how highly rated he is by you guys and what we should expect if he gets the job.
Cheers
Stu
I hope for your team's sake that he doesn't get the job.
Ezeikial
27/10/2009, 10:15 PM
Seriously, opinion is divided on him.
Overall a fairly balanced assessment.
Perhaps slightly understating both his achievements and his drawbacks!
Apart from getting Sligo promoted in his first season, Connor went on to assemble an almost completely new squad for the following season and took Sligo to a top four finish.
At Bohs he completely overhauled the squad and took them from 3rd from bottom finish to 3rd from top the following season. He also laid the foundations stones at Bohs that culminated in a double under Pat Fenlon the following year.
Again at Dundalk this season, he has put together a completely new squad (only 3 remain from last years promotion-winning team) and his success in securing the current 5th place is ahead of target and expectations.
While he won his case for unfair dismissal from Bohs the range and depth of charges that were levelled against him indicate that, as a minimum, he is a difficult character to control and has the ability to antagonise colleagues, club management, the media and supporters. This extends beyond the anti-Connor rhetoric to be expected from fans of former clubs Sligo and Bohs. Some of the issues that were highlighted during his acrimonious departure from Bohs, such as running up unauthorised bills, have re-surfaced at Dundalk.
For a person with a background in P.R. his media handling is often ill-considered and counter-productive, and he is prone to be volatile.
While his on-pitch managerial record is good results-wise, the off-field managerial issues and his personality and attitude leave something to be desired.
My guess is that Dundalk will offer him an extension on his contract, which if proved correct, will indicate that they accept that the positives outweigh the negatives. That the board do not appear to have done so to date is probably indicative of the divided opinion that Sean Connor seems to arouse.
BohsPartisan
27/10/2009, 10:17 PM
In what way, that its Sean Connor who told the greenock paper to write that piece up and a greenock fan to post here that hes away to Scotland! Get real will ya!
A sock salesman turned PR man who blagged his way into football management and thinks everyone is out to get him. You have listened to him being interviewed right?
BohsPartisan
27/10/2009, 10:39 PM
Steve Bruce is his mate.
Just so you know.
Sends his best wishes apparantly.
brianw82
27/10/2009, 10:39 PM
Overall a fairly balanced assessment.
Perhaps slightly understating both his achievements and his drawbacks!
Apart from getting Sligo promoted in his first season, Connor went on to assemble an almost completely new squad for the following season and took Sligo to a top four finish.
At Bohs he completely overhauled the squad and took them from 3rd from bottom finish to 3rd from top the following season. He also laid the foundations stones at Bohs that culminated in a double under Pat Fenlon the following year.
Again at Dundalk this season, he has put together a completely new squad (only 3 remain from last years promotion-winning team) and his success in securing the current 5th place is ahead of target and expectations.
While he won his case for unfair dismissal from Bohs the range and depth of charges that were levelled against him indicate that, as a minimum, he is a difficult character to control and has the ability to antagonise colleagues, club management, the media and supporters. This extends beyond the anti-Connor rhetoric to be expected from fans of former clubs Sligo and Bohs. Some of the issues that were highlighted during his acrimonious departure from Bohs, such as running up unauthorised bills, have re-surfaced at Dundalk.
For a person with a background in P.R. his media handling is often ill-considered and counter-productive, and he is prone to be volatile.
While his on-pitch managerial record is good results-wise, the off-field managerial issues and his personality and attitude leave something to be desired.
My guess is that Dundalk will offer him an extension on his contract, which if proved correct, will indicate that they accept that the positives outweigh the negatives. That the board do not appear to have done so to date is probably indicative of the divided opinion that Sean Connor seems to arouse.
I think it was actually 6th place that we finished in '06. Definitely wasn't 4th.
That seems to be a pretty good summary of him, though. It's a pity that he seems to bring so much baggage with him, as in terms of results alone his CV would appear to be quite impressive.
Mr_Parker
27/10/2009, 10:41 PM
Hi
It's been reported in local press over here that Sean Connor has been interviewed for the vacant managers job at Greenock Morton (Scottish First Division) http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/morton/articles/2009/10/27/393318-surprise-asirish-boss-interviewed-for-morton-job/. I was wondering how highly rated he is by you guys and what we should expect if he gets the job.
Cheers
Stu
Did he tell them that he once played for Cliftonville? :D
He does "sell" himself well at interview though......:o
sonofstan
27/10/2009, 10:49 PM
If he gets some money, and the club has ambitions, he may actually be able to do something - you will all, within a year or two, have cause to hate him.
Just spotted Ezeikial's post above - 2 cheers from the club he currently manages will illustrate the unease he tend to provoke even when doing well.
Ezeikial
27/10/2009, 11:03 PM
I think it was actually 6th place that we finished in '06. Definitely wasn't 4th.
That seems to be a pretty good summary of him, though. It's a pity that he seems to bring so much baggage with him, as in terms of results alone his CV would appear to be quite impressive.
I stand corrected. According to Wikipedia it was actually 5th place (out of 12). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Ireland_2006
I suspect he will always create new baggage, even if he could leave the old ones behind - "you can take the man out of the mountain, but can't take the mountain out of the man" stuff.
He definately has very keen skill spotting talent - while like any manager he has had his fair share of duds, and in particular a few "jobs for the lads", his record in relation to player signings is excellent.
Nesta99
27/10/2009, 11:10 PM
Connor leaves and we are getting toward having as many managers in recent times as red cards this season...but he achieved what was needed and kept us up. The opinions in general of both Sligo and Bohs fans are at the extreme end of the dislike of the guy, in Dundalk there is mixed opinion! He is certainly not deserving of the total disregard that he is given by Rovers and Bohs! If he decided to move on well so be it! as long as we retain core members of the squad assembled this season...he is some 'character' though:p
stubroon
27/10/2009, 11:24 PM
Thanks for all your replies. Looks like we could be in for some interesting times if he gets the job.
Da Real Rover
27/10/2009, 11:48 PM
Sean Connors attributes IMO are that he does an acceptable job with the budget hes given.
He gained promotion with us with a massive budget in comparison to the rest of the division.
He done admirabley with Bohs with an exceptional budget.
And he has done well at Dundalk with a large budget also.
He hasnt exactly set the league allight with the budgets hes given, he does enough but that is a talent in itself.
He is alos a master manipulator, not only of the media but most of all with his own club fans.
I personally fell hook line and sinker for his spoofing forked tongue, the Bohs fans at the start seemed to welcome his spoofing and now I see the Dundalk lads buying into the siege mentality he creates around himself, the team and the clubs identity.
It means he deflects internal criticism and increases his own prestige "in the face of adversity".
As for his negatives, hes a terrible terrible character to have around a club.
Hes confrontational, egotistic and down right ignorant.
I know lads who played under him and staff who worked udner him and I honestly dont know one of them to have a good word to say about him, hes just a cu'nt to put it simply.
He ran staff from our club that had been with us for years because of his inability to operate with people.
He also insitigates antagonisms outside of the club so as to create the whole "siege mentality" which as pointed out increases the chasm between himself and criticism and must of all looks after number one.
Thats all Sean Connor is about, number one, self preservation and increasing his own lot.
Any doubt about that and look at how he left us.
Dont buy into how much he professes to love your club on arrival either, just his master manipulation at work again.
As for him finding talent?
As stated before the talent that continously comes into our club has got sweet fukc all to do with Sean Connor, its generally speaking from the work and loyalty of Cassidy, it really irritates me that Connor gets credit for all our signings. He even had the audacity to try and poach Cassidy for his future job at Bohs.
Overall he is an extremely divisive figure who will bring you mixed fortune, just as long as you have a tidy budget, if you dont your experience is only going to be one way.
SligoBrewer
27/10/2009, 11:50 PM
uJODMMHvEdI
Knows Mick McCarthy too lads.
Ezeikial
28/10/2009, 1:44 AM
He is alos a master manipulator, not only of the media but most of all with his own club fans.
I personally fell hook line and sinker for his spoofing forked tongue, the Bohs fans at the start seemed to welcome his spoofing and now I see the Dundalk lads buying into the siege mentality he creates around himself, the team and the clubs identity.
A master manipulator of the media? I think he is diabolical in this area! Just check out Neil Ahern of the Indo (who is actually from Dundalk) as an example of the negative and biased reporting, which I have no doubt is directly related to his views on Sean Connor.
I agree with you about the siege mentality stuff (he is certainly not unique with that tactic), but check out Oriel Web and you will find very mixed views on him in this area from Dundalk fans
I know lads who played under him and staff who worked udner him and I honestly dont know one of them to have a good word to say about him, hes just a cu'nt to put it simply.
You don't seem to include Chris Turner, Liam Burns, Darren Mansaram or Harpal Singh who followed him from Sligo to Rovers to Dundalk; Michael McGinlay and Thomas Heary played for him at Bohs too before signing for him at Dundalk
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As for him finding talent?
As stated before the talent that continously comes into our club has got sweet fukc all to do with Sean Connor, its generally speaking from the work and loyalty of Cassidy, it really irritates me that Connor gets credit for all our signings. He even had the audacity to try and poach Cassidy for his future job at Bohs.
Maybe Gerry Cassidy is an excellent scout, but in most clubs it's the manager he signs and releases players, and I understand from your previous posts on this subject that Sean Connor was ultimately responsible for this at Sligo too.
Sean Connor record in identifying and signing players at Sligo, Bohemians and Dundalk is excellent.
SligoBrewer
28/10/2009, 2:12 AM
Gerry Cassidy's record in identifying players is excellent. Sean Connor's proficiency of dragging those same players to Bohemians and Dundalk is also excellent.
Fixed your post.
gustavo
28/10/2009, 8:26 AM
Connor leaves and we are getting toward having as many managers in recent times as red cards this season...but he achieved what was needed and kept us up. The opinions in general of both Sligo and Bohs fans are at the extreme end of the dislike of the guy, in Dundalk there is mixed opinion! He is certainly not deserving of the total disregard that he is given by Rovers and Bohs! If he decided to move on well so be it! as long as we retain core members of the squad assembled this season...he is some 'character' though:p
The fact that there is mixed opinions about him in Dundalk says it all really , Even when things are going well on the pitch people still have cause to dislike him
paulie_walnuts
28/10/2009, 9:00 AM
Just don't let anyone you knew rent a house to him ;)
redobit
28/10/2009, 9:06 AM
Decent wee manager, but his attitude stinks IMO.
jinxy lilywhite
28/10/2009, 9:25 AM
I was undecided when Sean Connor joined Dundalk though publicly I would of approved of his appointment and adopted a wait and see approach. We had a topsy turvy season to say the least with many highs of beating Drogheda, Cork, Derry and what is looking like a 5th place finish too in our first season back in the premier league after a 7 year absence. Only 3 players where kept from the previous years squad so Sean Connor deserves 99.9% of the credit for keeping us up. Under him we signed great players like Chris Turner, Michael Daly, Sean Kelly and Michale mcGowan to a certain extent (more joe miller than SC)
On the flipside which i feel is just as important is that the discipline in the club stinks (which is instilled by the manager), the signing of lose cannons like O'Callaghan, Rogers and Collins and not getting anything worthwhile out of them and signing players like McGinley and Creaney and they never seeing 20 mins over the course of the season. The promise of a Barcalona friendly which originally was prompted by the manager,brought the board to allow connor to sign more players and when the Barca friendly feel like a damp squid they had to ask players who had just signed to take a pay cut. Also as well I have heard Steve Bruce being mentioned and another one was his buddy Martin O'Neill.
Some of the managers antics this season have made me wish for another club to come in for his services. Hopefully he will go to Grennock and we can get a manager with a bit of humility.
BTW I think seanie is bluffing with this to get a better budget for next season. I hope the board call his bluff.
uJODMMHvEdI
Knows Mick McCarthy too lads.
Don't forget Chris Coleman lads, another good buddy of his.
Very hard one to call.I think he probably deserves another year as he has under promised and over delivered this year.But i am sort of nervous as to where things might end up if he is given another contract.From all that i have been told he is by all means a poor coach and man manager,Joe Miller getting hugged by Tiernan Mulvenna after his 1st premier goal summed up who the players seemed to respect.
Then there is the constant bad press our club is recieving week in week out due to lack of discipline,and the fact he seems to be more "one of the lads" ,than a figure of authority in the dressing room.
Overall i think i am with Jinxy in that i sort of hope he gets the Morton job and we get a more level headed manager in to keep us in the right direction both on and off the pitch.
showgies
28/10/2009, 10:35 AM
Sean Connor had some very good players at the Showgrounds, but I feel it wasn’t until he or they moved on that they started showing their talents.
Gavin Peers
Played right back under Sean, now one of the best Centre Halves in the league
Chris Turner
Never got a settled centre midfield role with Rovers until Cook took over. In fact the last time we were in a semi final, Sean played him at left back. At least now Sean realises that Chris is a fine centre midfielder.
Faz
Sean had him in the middle of the park, he only really shone for us when Leo Tierney played him up front.
Adam Hughes – Sean saw him as a right winger, when moved into middle of the park by Cook, he became a threat and scored more goals
Raf Cretaro
We lost Raf to Galway thanks to Seanie boy - this season he has 20+ goals
Gerry Carr
Gerry couldn’t tolerate Sean, ended up leaving but thankfully returned to create a great partnership with Cook
Ezeikial
28/10/2009, 11:52 AM
Sean Connor had some very good players at the Showgrounds, but I feel it wasn’t until he or they moved on that they started showing their talents.
Gavin Peers
Chris Turner
Faz
Adam Hughes
Raf Cretaro
So First Division champions followed by 5th place in the premier league - I suppose Champions League was the realistic 2 year target for Sligo when Sean Connor was appointed to this first division club? If only he could have got more from the players he was "given"!
gustavo
28/10/2009, 12:35 PM
So First Division champions followed by 5th place in the premier league - I suppose Champions League was the realistic 2 year target for Sligo when Sean Connor was appointed to this first division club? If only he could have got more from the players he was "given"!
Sean didn't make his two year target cos he buggered off just after we lost the semi final of the FAI Cup
brianw82
28/10/2009, 1:27 PM
So First Division champions followed by 5th place in the premier league - I suppose Champions League was the realistic 2 year target for Sligo when Sean Connor was appointed to this first division club? If only he could have got more from the players he was "given"!
That's not at all what showgies was getting at. He was stating how those players came into their own after Connor left and started to show their real abilities.
Ezeikial
28/10/2009, 5:57 PM
That's not at all what showgies was getting at. He was stating how those players came into their own after Connor left and started to show their real abilities.
I understood what he was saying and it's possible that he has a point - but when there is an absense of any semblance of credit for the results Connor clearly achieved at Sligo, it is difficult to treat the opinion as balanced or objective.
1st time post
28/10/2009, 7:17 PM
I understood what he was saying and it's possible that he has a point - but when there is an absense of any semblance of credit for the results Connor clearly achieved at Sligo, it is difficult to treat the opinion as balanced or objective.
In fairness a couple of the Rovers fans points about him on this thread have been objective bout the guy. For what its worth i think the guy did a decent job and credit goes to any fella who talked himself into a budget to get us out of the rut that was the graveyard and that we would probably not in a Cup Final or had a european adventure this year if it wasnt for him.
I think most of the hatred for him in Sligo tends to come from the manner in which he left the club. I remember on the Tuesday night in Derry after we got thumped in the semi-final replay and youd think by the fellas actions he was here for years to come but by the Thursday he was gone. Also the way he acted in actively promoting himself for the Bohs job in the weeks up until he left was disgusting. I remember having breakfeast in Sligo on the Saturday morning of a cup quarter-final against Killester in 06 and seeing two Rovers players eating their breakfest over the papers with quizzical looks on their faces and the main story bout the game was Sean Connor questioning why he hadnt beem approached bout the Bohs job, he had the best credentials etc.....Now what sort of message is that supposed to send to your players, the fans, the whole town in fact on the morning of what at the time was one of our biggest games in years. That was about 2 months before he left and needless to say we drew 0-0 that night and scraped thru the replay against a non-league team. I think that story jus about sums the guy up.
Glad he was here but glad hes gone if that makes any sense!!Out of interest what do Dundalk fans reckon the majority would be for him to stay or go??
Out of interest what do Dundalk fans reckon the majority would be for him to stay or go??
I wouldn`t say there would be a huge outcry if he did get the job in Morton. He has done exactly (and to be fair to him) what he was hired to do with us, to keep us in the division.
Personally speaking, I think he has done ok, but I also think we as a team/club, can do a lot better performance wise next season, I`m unsure if he is the man to take us to this level.
Maybe I`m a bit harsh after one season, so we`ll see how this develops.
CSFShels
28/10/2009, 8:41 PM
Surely Greenock Morton is a step down from Dundalk though?
LeixlipRed
28/10/2009, 8:55 PM
In fairness to him, when we beat you 3-0 in Tolka at the start of the season I though he'd be gone in 2 weeks but he's turned it around and brought you to a comfortable position in the table. There's no doubting the man is a ****** but he does something right. What that is who the hell knows?
Acornvilla
28/10/2009, 9:15 PM
Surely Greenock Morton is a step down from Dundalk though?
most definitley remember wat derry did to gretna :D and sure elfsbourg beat hibs 3-0 a year or two ago and then pats beat them so i'd say irish league top teams would be competitive in the spl bar the old firm
Nesta99
29/10/2009, 12:21 AM
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Even when things are going well on the pitch people still have cause to dislike him
It is not a case of dislike! More like not being sure who is responsible for turning round our poor early season form - Connor or Miller?
Glad he was here but glad hes gone if that makes any sense!!Out of interest what do Dundalk fans reckon the majority would be for him to stay or go??
Go!! In my opinion...
stubroon
29/10/2009, 10:52 AM
Thanks again for your replies. It's looking like he might get the job.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/sfl/2009/10/29/exclusive-morton-turn-to-connor-as-moore-blasts-club-over-compensation-deal-86908-21781566/
I'm more than a little nervous!
RoversHead
29/10/2009, 11:29 AM
Thanks again for your replies. It's looking like he might get the job.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/sfl/2009/10/29/exclusive-morton-turn-to-connor-as-moore-blasts-club-over-compensation-deal-86908-21781566/
I'm more than a little nervous!I would not be to nervous and would take what is posted on this mb with a pinch of salt stubroon,if there was a thread on here about pele 80% of the posts would be negative.He has done a grand job at Dundalk and would do the same for you.Best of luck.
So it looks as if he is taking the Morton job then.Thanks for keeping us up Sean if true.I cant help but think that this could be a major blessing in disguise for Dundalk though.
What we need now if he goes is a level headed manager who is gonna put emphasis on the on the field side of things.
Latest new is that Morton have delayed an announcement until next week.Sean Connor was at training today with Dundalk and rumour has it that he is negotiations with the Dundalk board re next years contract/budget.
SligoBrewer
29/10/2009, 1:44 PM
Latest new is that Morton have delayed an announcement until next week.Sean Connor was at training today with Dundalk and rumour has it that he is negotiations with the Dundalk board re next years contract/budget.
Here comes the patented Sean Connor **** your club over move, in 3.....2.....
passerrby
29/10/2009, 2:22 PM
So it looks as if he is taking the Morton job then.Thanks for keeping us up Sean if true.I cant help but think that this could be a major blessing in disguise for Dundalk though.
What we need now if he goes is a level headed manager who is gonna put emphasis on the on the field side of things.
who would you like to see getting the job shep
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