View Full Version : Only 8,000 tickets made available in Paris
paul_oshea
29/10/2009, 10:41 AM
Ya, I have this arguement with mates the whole time on email who will be out in their droves come the summer if we qualify but then complain all the time about how abd the football is and how crap we are etc. It annoys me less than it used to, i finish most now with the point that, no matter what it means to you it will mean far far more to me. And its true, im happy with that now.
Again id rather a small number of hardcore who make as much noise as a big number of mixed. Thats just my preference.
EastTerracer
29/10/2009, 10:47 AM
Ibaraki wc02 and sofia this year would be highlights. Bratislava 07 would be a low point, result wise and too much stag do antics by some.
I thought the 3,500 in Bari this year made for a really good atmosphere as well. Everyone stood and sang through most of the game. The late Robbie equaliser against the World Champions did help though.
Barna Bee
29/10/2009, 11:09 AM
"a small number of hardcore who make as much noise as a big number of mixed. "
I don't think so , much and all as the self proclaimed hardcore think they are making big noise etc ...there is no way 3,500 fans can outsing a home crowd of 70k home support ...it just does not happen. If you are standing in the middle of the 3.5 k fans you might think you are making an impression but you are not .....the 35k on the other hand made a big difference and the mere sight of this crowd has the French running scared right now.
What is a "hardcore" fan by the way .....how many away games do you have to attend , how many campaigns ? Looks like a lot of very precious hadcore fans here looking for some way of distinguishing themselves ...which is understandable ...but you need to understand that this is our national team and being irish we get to support it or not as it pleases us.
the only real way of making sure "hardcore fans get their allocation is a a loyalty points system but even this has a few limitations.
By the way ...I am a vet of a number of campaigns ...going back to 90
And have travelled to many away games ....but I have not been to a home game in 10 years.so where does that leave me ?
They only game in recent memory that was hard to get a ticket for was Basle 03 ....everywhere else eveyone got in
Newryrep
29/10/2009, 11:35 AM
the only real way of making sure "hardcore fans get their allocation is a a loyalty points system but even this has a few limitations.
Scots use the last 10 away games including friendlies 1 point per game - Home games are not included. Those with the most points get the away tickets. If there are remaining tickets and an excess of suitable point holders then a ballot. Deemed to be the fairest by the majority. Proof of travel required although this may be relaxed
elroy
29/10/2009, 11:49 AM
For the record I'd take 300 in Latvia atmosphere on a par with 30,000 in Paris - The more doesnt always make it the merrier.
Well if it there was proof of this its the games in Croker. Id sooner have 40-50k in LR, full of fans who are there to cheer on Ireland no matter what as opposed to 70k-80k in Croker where a sizeable percentage are there for the event and are quiet happy to spend their time on the mexican wave :mad: or criticising the team/players and how it doesnt compare to the premiership.
eaststand85
29/10/2009, 12:01 PM
"a small number of hardcore who make as much noise as a big number of mixed. "
I don't think so , much and all as the self proclaimed hardcore think they are making big noise etc ...there is no way 3,500 fans can outsing a home crowd of 70k home support ...it just does not happen. If you are standing in the middle of the 3.5 k fans you might think you are making an impression but you are not .....the 35k on the other hand made a big difference and the mere sight of this crowd has the French running scared right now.
What is a "hardcore" fan by the way .....how many away games do you have to attend , how many campaigns ? Looks like a lot of very precious hadcore fans here looking for some way of distinguishing themselves ...which is understandable ...but you need to understand that this is our national team and being irish we get to support it or not as it pleases us.
the only real way of making sure "hardcore fans get their allocation is a a loyalty points system but even this has a few limitations.
By the way ...I am a vet of a number of campaigns ...going back to 90
And have travelled to many away games ....but I have not been to a home game in 10 years.so where does that leave me ?
They only game in recent memory that was hard to get a ticket for was Basle 03 ....everywhere else eveyone got in
Great post. Similar discussions have been had before on the forum and at the risk of repeating myself, everyone's circumstances and methods of supporting the team are different and I personally would like to see a little less of the 'fan police' mentality common amongst some posters.
RonnieB
29/10/2009, 12:31 PM
Sadly no proper work for a year tends to prevent getting to as many games as one would like.
IsMiseSean
29/10/2009, 1:02 PM
Sadly no proper work for a year tends to prevent getting to as many games as one would like.
Im with RonnieB on this one...
Being unemployed doesn't make you not hardcore, if you see what I mean.
You can be a proper fan but who can't afford to go.
I think the only real annoyance isn't this example, it's purely those 'fans' who get tickets for just the big games simply because it's an event,and because they can. They don't really have any interest in the football for the rest of the time but hey, it's Paris and a big game to be seen at.
There's many good supporters who just can't get to matches.
They are still good supporters though.
RonnieB
29/10/2009, 1:28 PM
I think the only real annoyance isn't this example, it's purely those 'fans' who get tickets for just the big games simply because it's an event,and because they can. They don't really have any interest in the football for the rest of the time but hey, it's Paris and a big game to be seen at.
Hopefully there wont be as many people like that this time around. Sure there's fellas I know who had 6 tickets spare for Montenegro who couldn't be arsed to go, yet I am sure they will end up with tickets for the match in Paris.
Does anger the blood!
Talking os spare for that match, I met a tout on the cornmer by the Hogan Stand pub.
He had a big wad of tickets which he was trying to sell at 5 euros a pop but was having no success.
That warmed the cockles of my heart.
Greenforever
29/10/2009, 2:33 PM
According to ticket office today applications were in excess of 15,000 with just 8,000 tickets to go round.
We applied for 8 and have been told we will be getting 8, which is the same number of tickets we have got for all 10 group games.
paul_oshea
29/10/2009, 2:40 PM
ok so if 15k looking then expect around 18k that are planning on going to the game.
RonnieB
29/10/2009, 2:41 PM
Barring a miracle I think I will have to partake of a touts ticket. That said we shall if there is a phonecall tomorrow...
jbyrne
29/10/2009, 2:45 PM
According to ticket office today applications were in excess of 15,000 with just 8,000 tickets to go round.
We applied for 8 and have been told we will be getting 8, which is the same number of tickets we have got for all 10 group games.
did they tell you over the phone how many you were getting?
Greenforever
29/10/2009, 2:46 PM
Barring a miracle I think I will have to partake of a touts ticket. That said we shall if there is a phonecall tomorrow...
im sure you will get one, if not meet me by the moulin rouge and we'll find you one, just mind the beer, dont want you spilling any more of my beer, its bloody expensive in Paris :D:D:D
RonnieB
29/10/2009, 2:47 PM
im sure you will get one, if not meet me by the moulin rouge and we'll find you one, just mind the beer, dont want you spilling any more of my beer, its bloody expensive in Paris :D
Cheers Greenforever, as for the beer I keep telling you that was not my fault :D there was a fella beside me who was far to enthusiastic!
Greenforever
29/10/2009, 2:47 PM
did they tell you over the phone how many you were getting?
yes, but we know most of the staff in the ticket office at this stage, i texted one of them as they are not taking many calls due to the shee volumes, and she let me know in a kind of unofficial way, said we would get ours as they were well aware that we travel to all away games including friendlies.
According to ticket office today applications were in excess of 15,000 with just 8,000 tickets to go round.
We applied for 8 and have been told we will be getting 8, which is the same number of tickets we have got for all 10 group games.
Interesting to see what the split is between BB and non-BB. I have a feeling I will be out with the begging bowl again, just like Basel I and Germany.
Greenforever
29/10/2009, 2:49 PM
Cheers Greenforever, as for the beer I keep telling you that was not my fault :D there was a fella beside me who was far to enthusiastic!
he not getting a ticket :eek:
Greenforever
29/10/2009, 2:52 PM
Interesting to see what the split is between BB and non-BB. I have a feeling I will be out with the begging bowl again, just like Basel I and Germany.
if you are a regular traveller and have purchased your tickets from the FAI in your own name, point that out to the FAI with your application. Unfortunately if you are a regular traveller and get them through a different source you have to rely on them.
Most of the regular travellers I know would be well know within the FAI at this stage, purely through getting their tickets for all the games,
jbyrne
29/10/2009, 2:58 PM
ok so if 15k looking then expect around 18k that are planning on going to the game.
id say that a fair few double bookings were made so maybe the number will be closer to 10,000
Would agree on the double booking, most people apply for more tickets in the hope of getting want you need. Surely they take into account if you have been to away game in this and previous campaigns. Myself and my brother generally do 1 away game per campaign. People who have been to more should get 1st preference. Do the FAI look at it like this? The same people who have slagged off Ireland for the last few years, didn`t go to the games, are the very ones booking Paris and trying to board the BAND WAGON!
gspain
29/10/2009, 3:07 PM
if you are a regular traveller and have purchased your tickets from the FAI in your own name, point that out to the FAI with your application. Unfortunately if you are a regular traveller and get them through a different source you have to rely on them.
Most of the regular travellers I know would be well know within the FAI at this stage, purely through getting their tickets for all the games,
This is where problems can arise.
I get my tickets in my own name for home and away games but some of our crew get them via a 3rd party. Problems can arise when the 3rd party decides he wants to go to Paris with the wife. I'm not talking about a real case here but something similiar has happened in the past.
The new travel agents seem to be getting far more tickets than Treacy too which isn't helping.
Newryrep
29/10/2009, 3:29 PM
if you are a regular traveller and have purchased your tickets from the FAI in your own name, point that out to the FAI with your application. Unfortunately if you are a regular traveller and get them through a different source you have to rely on them.
Most of the regular travellers I know would be well know within the FAI at this stage, purely through getting their tickets for all the games,
GF surely they would have a record of that via the BB or WL number on the request? . There was a box for such a number on the online application.
Are they going to confirm by email those in the UK where possible (postal strike and all that)
Just checked on ebay and someone is selling a ticket for the irish section in Paris, seller is based in the UK, surely chancing their arm, is this possible at this stage?
Just checked on ebay and someone is selling a ticket for the irish section in Paris, seller is based in the UK, surely chancing their arm, is this possible at this stage?Got a 100% record, so looks a good candidate. Only people I know who would be sure they've got a ticket would be the long term block bookers in the RISSC, and any absence would be noted. :mad:
Much more interesting is the ammount of tickets on sale on ebay.fr. 200 plus listings starting at €80 for a view with the Lord himself. Still it beats the barstool. The more popular ones are the tickets with photos. Still, if its a 100% lister, and you pay with paypal, toutes et couvert a 100%.
Slim Pickings
29/10/2009, 4:07 PM
GF surely they would have a record of that via the BB or WL number on the request? . There was a box for such a number on the online application.
Are they going to confirm by email those in the UK where possible (postal strike and all that)
I've gone to quite a few away games over the last few years but always get tickets off a mate. He said he had to give my name to the FAI when applying for the tickets though. This time I'm applying for them myself so do yis reckon the FAI will take the previous trips into account??
Still reckon everyone who's going will get sorted but it'd be nice to have tickets sorted beforehand and not have to hit up the French touts over there.
Could be an anxious few weeks me thinks:(
SuperDave
29/10/2009, 4:16 PM
'Massive' was the word the ticket office used when I wsa on the phone today in terms of supply. I was ringing because both me and a friend of a friend applied for seven tickets by mistake (when we only wanted seven in total). I clarified this with them so hopefully one of us gets the tickets!
If the 15,000 is true though, I don't hold out great hope. My friend has been to two games this campaign but I haven't been to any aways with the exception of San Marino and Wales last time out.
I as in touch with the FAI today they advised that they will advising people tomorrow by E-mail if they have been successful in getting tickets for the away leg. Fingers cross!!
Cheers for that Ro.
wonder what the total number of tickets asked for was. surely on average 2-3 tickets per application??
RonnieB
29/10/2009, 5:58 PM
I as in touch with the FAI today they advised that they will advising people tomorrow by E-mail if they have been successful in getting tickets for the away leg. Fingers cross!!
Thanks for the update RO81 *Crosses his fingers and toes*
themudfactor
29/10/2009, 6:44 PM
I as in touch with the FAI today they advised that they will advising people tomorrow by E-mail if they have been successful in getting tickets for the away leg. Fingers cross!!
Great stuff, this is definite? I really cannot bear waiting any longer, just want to find out either way so i can go ahead and secure my ticket.
blobbyblob
29/10/2009, 7:10 PM
Cheers for that Ro.
wonder what the total number of tickets asked for was. surely on average 2-3 tickets per application??
15000 tickets requested approx
Newryrep
29/10/2009, 7:28 PM
I've gone to quite a few away games over the last few years but always get tickets off a mate. He said he had to give my name to the FAI when applying for the tickets though. This time I'm applying for them myself so do yis reckon the FAI will take the previous trips into account??
Still reckon everyone who's going will get sorted but it'd be nice to have tickets sorted beforehand and not have to hit up the French touts over there.
Could be an anxious few weeks me thinks:(
SP, you probably would of had a better chance applying through your mate as they probably go on WL/BB number but I'm only guessing. Still good luck
Slim Pickings
29/10/2009, 7:54 PM
SP, you probably would of had a better chance applying through your mate as they probably go on WL/BB number but I'm only guessing. Still good luck
Cheers Newryrep, on the WL so hopefully that'll save me. Shouldn't fret though, haven't known anyone at any away game to be stuck come the day of the match and given the amount of them on sale on ebay and other sources, I reckon everyone'll be grand.
if you are a regular traveller and have purchased your tickets from the FAI in your own name, point that out to the FAI with your application. Unfortunately if you are a regular traveller and get them through a different source you have to rely on them.
I am a bber who travels to away friendlies and group games but hold out little hope of getting the 2 tickets I need from the FAI. We couldnt put any such notes on our application this time, if I remember correctly.
Anytime there is a shortage of tickets, I always miss out. I got none for Basel I and ended up going with Abbey travel, who were not an official agent at the time, and we, along with 2 other bus loads got tickets in the irish section. I got no tickets for Germany away and ended up having to travel and locate tickets over there, even though we rarely missed an away game back then.
Ebay.fr, .ie and .co.uk are going to be flooded with tickets for both legs.
Thebolg
30/10/2009, 10:41 AM
I as in touch with the FAI today they advised that they will advising people tomorrow by E-mail if they have been successful in getting tickets for the away leg. Fingers cross!!
Anyone get notice today yet?
gspain
30/10/2009, 12:47 PM
I am a bber who travels to away friendlies and group games but hold out little hope of getting the 2 tickets I need from the FAI. We couldnt put any such notes on our application this time, if I remember correctly.
Anytime there is a shortage of tickets, I always miss out. I got none for Basel I and ended up going with Abbey travel, who were not an official agent at the time, and we, along with 2 other bus loads got tickets in the irish section. I got no tickets for Germany away and ended up having to travel and locate tickets over there, even though we rarely missed an away game back then.
Ebay.fr, .ie and .co.uk are going to be flooded with tickets for both legs.
If you are a bber and get away tickets via the FAI using your bbing number then they know what games you've been to.
The only travel agent to get tickets from the FAI for Basle 03 was Treacy. I witnessed Cassin's rant in the recption area of Merrion Square as I was waiting to get my tickets. He and SG did get Swiss tickets. Basle 04 saw enough tickets for all fans incl travel agents.
If Abbey travel had FAI tickets in 03 they were obtained through bbings.
jbyrne
30/10/2009, 1:07 PM
If you are a bber and get away tickets via the FAI using your bbing number then they know what games you've been to.
but do they really have the time to go through everyones record to see that? i doubt it really
wexfordman
30/10/2009, 1:11 PM
still no email notification from the fai, the wait continues!
paul_oshea
30/10/2009, 1:13 PM
john, i would imagine they have a DB with all the blockbookers in there and the the total number of games they attended.
Polster
30/10/2009, 1:20 PM
john, i would imagine they have a DB with all the blockbookers in there and the the total number of games they attended.
I'd say they would struggle with an excel sheet, never mind a db
themudfactor
30/10/2009, 1:44 PM
getting a bit frustrating now at this stage...even if they put up on the website..."You will hear by Monday evening" that would provide some peace of mind. the radio silence approach is unfair on the fans.
paul_oshea
30/10/2009, 1:46 PM
Well if they would, they should look at getting someone in to do it, it wouldn't take long and would greatly improve efficiency and let them focus on taking emails/calls etc.
horsebox1977
30/10/2009, 1:48 PM
I got a letter today from the FAI stating that I am not entitled to tickets for the Aviva statium. Why send me this letter now? I have just been harassing them about getting tickets for the away leg and I get this - WTF?
M@ttitude
30/10/2009, 2:04 PM
I remember everyone was worried about getting tickets for the away match in prague last time.. We went to the stadium the day before and got tickets for ten euro each in the Irish end, compared to the 50 the BB's paid!
Polster
30/10/2009, 2:37 PM
Still no mail,
Its like waiting for your leaving cert results, hoping for the best...and be happy with anything decent
jbyrne
30/10/2009, 3:07 PM
Still no mail,
Its like waiting for your leaving cert results, hoping for the best...and be happy with anything decent
i saw elsewhere that it would be late afternoon. id say it could even stretch till monday
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