View Full Version : Man Utd fans in a panic!
John83
13/02/2004, 6:45 PM
Aside from the whole Magnier thing, which has them frantic at the possibility of their club being sold (anyone remember the "our club is not for sale" signs, the day before Magnier and some American bloke both increased their shares!), Man U fans are less than happy at the team at the moment. I looked at one forum only to find a thread called Mass merged doom and panic post loss/ our defense is crap thread!!
The only thing is, O'Shea is helping stink up that defense :(
Plastic Paddy
13/02/2004, 10:57 PM
F**k 'em.
;) PP
sylvo
14/02/2004, 12:02 AM
God's sake lad, you can't say that about the biggest plc in the world, sorry football club.
I just feel sorry for the poor horse, mr Davros i have been to an 1860 munich game once, but i'd hardly call myself a fan.
sylvo
14/02/2004, 11:17 AM
It would be nice to see some Irish man united fan's take a look @ the present situation and see that all their doing is supporting and bankrolling a soap opera where one bunch of millionare's are fighting with another over such thing's as a poor horse etc.
Maybe if they went out watched a local team instead of spending their money on a foreign plc the local team's may have a chance of getting decent run's in europe and also more player's like Glen Crowe breaking into the national team, plus they'd be watching a football match not helping to bankroll a soap opera.
DolansWaistcoat
14/02/2004, 3:54 PM
The whole united thing has become a joke with the horse racing boys and your man fergie the main comedians in it.I'm fed up of reading about the stupid fiasco.
One thing I have noticed is the way the man u fans have started saying 'its over' after one defeat to middlesboro.The defence is a disaster since the junkie was banned but this is manchester united we're taking about.Five smelly points behind with 12 or 13 games to play and they're packing it in.Just wait until they beat Arsenal at Highbury and they'll all be saying how they knew they'd come back.
The only one that's coming out of this with any credit is the poor ould horse.
NigeSausagepump
15/02/2004, 11:15 AM
I saw a vox pops of Manchester based Man U fans on Sky News last week and some of them made comments bordering on the racist towards Magnier and McManus. I've also read the whole thing has stirred up some pretty nasty anti-Irish sentiment among Man U fans, which is sad but vaguely understandable.
While I'm sure the majority of Utd fans don't have any truck with these sentiments, I wonder if some of the anti-Irish vitriol being poured out is shocking the Irish fans who claim they are "United through and through".
About ten year's ago when Steve Bruce said he had an Irish grandmother i managed to get hold of a copy of the man united fanzine red issue were i'd heard there was a page slagging off the Ireland team in responce to Bruce saying he'd like to play for Ireland.
It had a p*** take of the fai crest a set of welly boots and a shovel was the crest and had a list of question's for any one interested in playing for Ireland that consisted of do you have a low iq, do you have a red face, do you have a large family and a load of other b****x question's.
Had this come from someone like a chelsea fanzine or some other club's with fan's with racist link's i would'nt have been all that surprised, but for a club that happily take's million's of pound's each year off it's Irish fan's who have now apparently got writer's from the red issue writing in the match day programe was shocking.
If people want to come over here week after week following english club's that's their choice, but the fact remain's their english club's not Irish club's and not everyone is going to welcome you with open arm's,( but they do welcome yer wallet) even Man united.
tiktok
15/02/2004, 6:54 PM
Originally posted by sylvo
......Maybe if they went out watched a local team instead of spending their money on a foreign plc the local team's.......
I'm a Man Utd fan, doesn't make me less of a CCFC/EL supporter. Not all of us buy into the PLC, most of us (as can be seen by the actions of Fan's United) are openly opposed to the 'City' involvement in the day to day running of the club.
Originally posted by DolansWaistcoat
One thing I have noticed is the way the man u fans have started saying 'its over' after one defeat to middlesboro
More to do with how good Arsenal are and United's conceding ten goals in four games. No-one's really giving it up though;)
Originally posted by NigeSausagepump
I've also read the whole thing has stirred up some pretty nasty anti-Irish sentiment among Man U fans, which is sad but vaguely understandable
Fans don't like the PLC/Suits side. The recent off-0field activities were embarassing. Fan's anger is well directed though. There may be some anti-irish rubbish, but scratch the surface, mention Keano and you'll see it's very much directed solely at Magnier and McManus.
Originally posted by sylvo
........man united fanzine red issue were i'd heard there was a page slagging off the Ireland team......
It had a p*** take of the fai crest a set of welly boots and a shovel was the crest and had a list of question's.......do you have a low iq, do you have a red face, do you have a large family and a load of other b****x question's.
All tongue in cheek sylvo, nature of a fanzine. The FAI's 'do you own an Irish setter? then come play for us!' recruitment drive in the Charlton era was a joke.
We were fair game for that kind of send-up, it's only natural that the writer would cling to Stereotypes.
Not for one minute am I insinuating that supporting Man united make's you any less a ccfc/el fan, and i know that we did'nt help ourselves sometime's with comment's like Jack Charlton's one after we'd just drew with Northern Ireland in 93 when he said ''any player who has not played for any country check yer family tree and see if you've any Irish realation's'', not very helpful comment's like that.
When it come's to racism Man united would be the last club you'd look @, especilly when you look @ the record of some other english club's, and i understand that the overwhelming majorty of fan's cannot be blamed for the uttering's of a fanzine.
Like you said a fanzine is to be tongue in cheek and to add a satirical look @ football, But not to come out with a rant that was on par with the sun newspaper rant's and cartoon's in the day's when it was depicting us as public enemy number one and a people to hate. That just further made my mind up way i just watch English football on tv and never support a team.
I know this was an isloalted incident but when your speaking as an unoffical vioce to the fan's it's not the most cleverest thing to come out with a racist rant about a people who put a hell of a lot of money into that club as well as being the club supported by the majorty of Manchester's large Irish community.
tiktok
16/02/2004, 3:31 PM
Originally posted by sylvo
......but when your speaking as an unoffical vioce to the fan's it's not the most cleverest thing to come out with a racist rant....
Yeah, that's a fair enough point.
I'd hope it was silly rather than intentional though. There are certain Salford based fans for whom Man Utd happens to be their local team, among small pockets that are openly hostile to any 'outside' fans. Which is understandable I guess if you've lived by OT all your life and can't get a ticket.
Very true tiktok, I'm mate's with a lot of Arsenal fan's and they say the very same thing about highbury and the way thing's have gone on there like pricing the fan's who have been going for year's out of the game.
max power
16/02/2004, 3:41 PM
Originally posted by Plastic Paddy
F**k 'em.
;) PP
maybe if you didn't treat certain players at celtic like children they wouldn't be going to manchester in the summer ?? very well run business...
Originally posted by sylvo
About ten year's ago when Steve Bruce said he had an Irish grandmother i managed to get hold of a copy of the man united fanzine red issue were i'd heard there was a page slagging off the Ireland team in responce to Bruce saying he'd like to play for Ireland.
It had a p*** take of the fai crest a set of welly boots and a shovel was the crest and had a list of question's for any one interested in playing for Ireland that consisted of do you have a low iq, do you have a red face, do you have a large family and a load of other b****x question's.
Had this come from someone like a chelsea fanzine or some other club's with fan's with racist link's i would'nt have been all that surprised, but for a club that happily take's million's of pound's each year off it's Irish fan's who have now apparently got writer's from the red issue writing in the match day programe was shocking.
If people want to come over here week after week following english club's that's their choice, but the fact remain's their english club's not Irish club's and not everyone is going to welcome you with open arm's,( but they do welcome yer wallet) even Man united.
LOL, the funniest rant I've read in a long time...... It's a fanzine ffs, and an extremely funny one at that (so I don't know what that's got to do with the club itself)... I'd be surprised if any of them write for the programme, but then I don't know anyone who goes regularly that buys the programme in the first place.... Muppets get abused at United games, mainly for being Johnny Come Lately's, and Out of Town fans that have latched on since 1993..... You answer you're own question in way - the club seems to actively welcome OOT's at the expense of local fans, that is why there is sometime's problems with one game dicks... One article, in one fanzine, now makes United a racist club? Can we get a Wánker smiley like the Pats MB?
Declan_Michael
16/02/2004, 4:17 PM
OOT's are more profitable than local supporters.
If United are lucky the local might splash out 3 quid on a meat and potato pie. Meanwhile, OOT flies Ryanair, stays in three star hotel, buys replica shirt/bed linen from official store, visits museum/stadium tour. That keeps the airport, tourist industry and football club very happy.
Originally posted by Declan_Michael
OOT's are more profitable than local supporters.
If United are lucky the local might splash out 3 quid on a meat and potato pie. Meanwhile, OOT flies Ryanair, stays in three star hotel, buys replica shirt/bed linen from official store, visits museum/stadium tour. That keeps the airport, tourist industry and football club very happy.
Really? :rolleyes:
That doesn't change the fact that OT would be a better place with 67k odd singing and chanting, which it would be if more local fans could get tickets, or even afford them.
Declan_Michael
16/02/2004, 4:33 PM
Originally posted by Macy
Really? :rolleyes:
That doesn't change the fact that OT would be a better place with 67k odd singing and chanting, which it would be if more local fans could get tickets, or even afford them.
Ok no need for sarcasm ;)
As a local Liverpool supporter I know all about OOT's gobbling up tickets.
Plenty of Irish travel agents have made a few quid out of Old Trafford/Parkhead/Anfield package deals. :mad:
tricky_colour
17/02/2004, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by sylvo
The only one that's coming out of this with any credit is the poor ould horse.
Can he play left back? :D
Plastic Paddy
17/02/2004, 8:02 AM
Originally posted by max power
maybe if you didn't treat certain players at celtic like children they wouldn't be going to manchester in the summer ?? very well run business...
I'm noticing a trend here - everytime I post something a little "controversial", there's a Longford fan to shoot me down... Remind me never to go to Flancare Park!
:) PP
gspain
17/02/2004, 8:54 AM
There was a published study for the PLC done a few years back showiong the average spend of the day tripper (once a season or once a lifetime) being STG£100+ per game.
I was in Manchester a few years back and did the Museum tour etc and met a local guy (City fan obviously) who was bringing 3 Japanese tourists around. There was no football on but they flew from Tokyo to see Manchester and the Museum/stadium and bought half the Megastore. Apparently the club even do very well from people like that.
Hope it all ends up in court - great story. Come on the Irish guys!!!!!
Originally posted by gspain
I was in Manchester a few years back and did the Museum tour etc and met a local guy (City fan obviously) who was bringing 3 Japanese tourists around.
:rolleyes: Liars....
Originally posted by gspain
Hope it all ends up in court - great story. Come on the Irish guys!!!!!
Sure you must be so proud of a fellow Limerick man investing so heavily in a foreign football club, whilst your own team is doing so well....
sylvo
17/02/2004, 10:56 AM
Macy if you'd read the post properly instead of having yer head up yer a**e you would have seen I was not accusing man united or indeed man united fan's @ all of racism, I was talking about an article in a fanzine which has nothing to do with the view's of the club. If yer found that funny then you most find thing's like looking in the mirror sidesplitting also. The article caused a lot of anger amongst Irish community group's over here @ the time, and the only people that can be blamed were the fanzine nobody else.
We all know that man united look after their Irish fan's when it come's to ticket's and are no way against them after all they can proberly go out and buy a player each year on money that come's in from Ireland. Macy while you had your had up yer a**e you would have missed me saying that Man united would be the last club you'd accuse of racism, there's three club's that spring to mind here in Laandaan that i'd accuse their fan's of being racist not Man united. So if yer gonna have a dig @ least read the thing properly. If i could get a w****r smiley with it's head up it's a**e I would for yer.
gspain
17/02/2004, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Macy
:rolleyes: Liars....
Sure you must be so proud of a fellow Limerick man investing so heavily in a foreign football club, whilst your own team is doing so well....
Liars????????
JP McManus has donated heavily in the city - school, university etc. It has also transpired that he gave money to the club in the past and probably will again in the very near future.
It is his money and he can do what he likes with it. Good luck to him. Anyway I think he is investing in Man Utd not giving them money. he is not a Roman Abramovich and is out to make money on the deal. I think he will too.
John83
17/02/2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by tricky_colour
Can he play left back? :D
No, but he scores pretty regularly if you pay him.
Originally posted by gspain
JP McManus has donated heavily in the city - school, university etc. It has also transpired that he gave money to the club in the past and probably will again in the very near future.
It is his money and he can do what he likes with it. Good luck to him. Anyway I think he is investing in Man Utd not giving them money. he is not a Roman Abramovich and is out to make money on the deal. I think he will too.
Well bully for him, how much has he paid in tax in this country recently? Or prehaps more relevantly, how much has he avoided paying?
max power
17/02/2004, 12:10 PM
i've heard vox pops from the horsey crowd says ferguson is scum blah blah blah and the footie fans saying mcmanus is scum blah blah blah...its a meeting of two sports, but i think they are as bad as each other, two top business men who never bothered with a contract ????
lopez
18/02/2004, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Macy
LOL, the funniest rant I've read in a long time...... Can we get a Wánker smiley like the Pats MB?
Yeah let's do. Stick it permanently beside your name.:rolleyes:
Originally posted by Declan_Michael
OOT's are more profitable than local supporters.
I was at OT in 2001 for the Deportivo game (mi madre es de La Coruna) and I went into that Kebab shop near the cricket ground and the prices were all taped over with new figures. £5 for a ****e kebab FFS. Despite an erection filling victory I declined visiting the 'theatre of creams' on two more occasions as my car journey home took five f*cking hours with all the OOT from surrey clogging up the M6. BTW, my brother-in-law and his brother are regular OOT at Anfield much to my pleasure post eighties.
Originally posted by max power
i've heard vox pops from the horsey crowd says ferguson is scum blah blah blah and the footie fans saying mcmanus is scum blah blah blah...its a meeting of two sports, but i think they are as bad as each other, two top business men who never bothered with a contract ????
Yeah and f*ck the horsey crowd too. F*cking grand national. Never mind about the ra trying to blow up Aintree. How about the ALF.
Look I'm sick of ManUre and its Oirish connections. I don't know what Magnier the horse killer is upto. Maybe he's trying to do a Brooklyn Dodgers and take United to it's spiritual homeland (Bangalore would be more like it) in a futuristic European Super Bowl. Maybe when United become the Dublin Top'o'da'mo'nin's I might, just might, be interested, But where I'm sitting the three most famous Manc Irish footy fans of my generation were City fans (The Gallagher bros and Kevin 'Curly Watts' Kennedy) the last one actually seen at an Ireland game even though he was p*ssed out of his b*llocks slumped over a table for most of the time.:rolleyes: As the right honourable gentleman, Plastic Paddy, says: F*ck em.
tiktok
18/02/2004, 8:01 AM
Come on lads, bumping up prices on match days isn't exclusive to Old trafford. Wait until you get the urge for a bag of chips outside landsdowne tonight.
Manchester United is not the football club equivalent of the anti-christ, everybody knows Real Madrid are.;) :D
gspain
18/02/2004, 8:25 AM
Originally posted by lopez
Yeah let's do. Stick it permanently beside your name.:rolleyes:
I was at OT in 2001 for the Deportivo game (mi madre es de La Coruna) and I went into that Kebab shop near the cricket ground and the prices were all taped over with new figures. £5 for a ****e kebab FFS. Despite an erection filling victory I declined visiting the 'theatre of creams' on two more occasions as my car journey home took five f*cking hours with all the OOT from surrey clogging up the M6. BTW, my brother-in-law and his brother are regular OOT at Anfield much to my pleasure post eighties.
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Now now Lopez they don't all come from Surrey - there's also Milton Keynes and plenty live in Kent not to mention Toyko, Oslo and Dublin. :D :D :D
Originally posted by gspain
Now now Lopez they don't all come from Surrey - there's also Milton Keynes and plenty live in Kent not to mention Toyko, Oslo and Dublin. :D :D :D
...and Bangalore. :D
Plastic Paddy
18/02/2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by lopez
As the right honourable gentleman, Plastic Paddy, says: F*ck em.
Quoting moi? I can now retire, my life's work fulfilled... :cool:
:D PP
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