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eaststand85
09/09/2009, 8:39 PM
Anybody else think (or care) that the ref had a stinker tonight? Gave the Italians everything they were looking for as usual.
eaststand85
09/09/2009, 8:41 PM
I wonder will our game against Italy turn into a bit of a non event now with both teams happy to play out a nil nil
Hope not. Shouldn't be a foregone conclusion just yet. We beat them and anything, no matter how unlikely, could happen on the last day.
EastTerracer
09/09/2009, 8:50 PM
I wonder will our game against Italy turn into a bit of a non event now with both teams happy to play out a nil nil
I'd hate to be relying on a point in the last game so I'd much prefer to try and win against Italy to guarantee the spot. They can have their point at home to Cyprus after that (unless the Cypriots can do us a favour).
Pauro 76
09/09/2009, 8:50 PM
Don't know whether to be disappointed or delighted. Off-topic, Jim Beglin commentating on England game. Would it actually kill him to actually mention Italy v Bulgaria game?
eaststand85
09/09/2009, 8:54 PM
Don't know whether to be disappointed or delighted. Off-topic, Jim Beglin commentating on England game. Would it actually kill him to actually mention Italy v Bulgaria game?
Disappointed. As someone else mentioned apart from the effect on next month's game it also means we look back with even more regret on Kilbane's two og's.
tricky_colour
09/09/2009, 8:56 PM
1 Italy .............8 5 2 0 11 3 +10 20
2 Rep of Ireland. 8 4 4 0 10 6.. +4 16
3 Bulgaria .........8 2 5 0 10 5.. +3 11
4 Cyprus .......... 8 1 2 4 7 11 ...4 _6
5 Montenegro.... 8 0 4 3 6 12 ..-6 _5
6 Georgia ......... 8 0 3 5 4 11 ..-7 _3
10/10/09 Montenegro - Georgia Georgia
10/10/09 Cyprus - Bulgaria
10/10/09 Republic of Ireland - Italy
14/10/09 Republic of Ireland - Montenegro
14/10/09 Italy - Cyprus
14/10/09 Bulgaria - Georgia
I think that's right, we need 2 points to guarantee qualification, one is not enough because of goal difference.
Sproston Green
09/09/2009, 8:57 PM
Just the one OG - the other was a defensive mix-up (to be polite)
Beglin will never mention us - knows which side his bread is buttered on.
MeathDrog
09/09/2009, 9:19 PM
Beglin is a boring arsehole anyway.
irishfan86
09/09/2009, 9:28 PM
Pirlo was looking good tonight. If he's in that kind of form next month we're going to have our work cut out.
Drumcondra 69er
09/09/2009, 9:41 PM
Disappointed. As someone else mentioned apart from the effect on next month's game it also means we look back with even more regret on Kilbane's two og's.
Penalty not given away to Montenegro for me. Most blatant handball I've ever seen. Know we got a soft one against Georgia but still....
Montenegrin
09/09/2009, 9:45 PM
Penalty not given away to Montenegro for me. Most blatant handball I've ever seen. Know we got a soft one against Georgia but still....
It was not a handball!:p
I think we can consider ourselves very unlucky that we do not have first place in this group within our control considering our results in this campaign. The only result where we may feel we shouldve done better is probably Bulgaria at home, other than that our results have been very good.
The Italian game probably doesnt carry as much weighting now as before, nonetheless a win for us would certainly make it nervy for them on the last day. Not to the mention the fact that we could do with a big scalp at home. Its not all done and dusted yet we have a bit of work to do but at the same time first place isnt completely out of sight.
Italy looked good tonight but at the same time Bulgaria looked poor at times considering the talent available to them. Berba particularly was very abject.
jbyrne
09/09/2009, 10:35 PM
Off-topic, Jim Beglin commentating on England game. Would it actually kill him to actually mention Italy v Bulgaria game?
Why on earth would he do that during an eng game?
rambler14
09/09/2009, 10:42 PM
Don't know whether to be disappointed or delighted. Off-topic, Jim Beglin commentating on England game. Would it actually kill him to actually mention Italy v Bulgaria game?
Ray Houghton is commentating on the Uruguay vs Colombia game. It's strange........but he hasn't mentioned Italy vs Bulgaria either!:confused:
geysir
09/09/2009, 11:10 PM
2-0 now and game over. Just as I stated yesterday!
Sure:D
As soon as you opened your mouth yesterday the jinx was set in stone.
Duggie
10/09/2009, 8:05 AM
have to admit i got it wrong last night. italy were good in the first half but bulgaria were fairly poor. 2 great goals, especially iaquinta's one, lovely link up play. they did enough to win the game which is something we could learn from. still top spot isnt over yet. we could beat italy at home with cyprus getting a point in italy. im not looking forward to a play off...:(
I think we are going to end up in a play off against the North. I dont know why but I have had this feeling since before Italy away. The results of the last week pretty much guarantee 2nd place for us and I think the north will fight and get 2nd. The north will be the last football game in C.P. before we move back to LR. Its destiny!!
Duggie
10/09/2009, 8:14 AM
the north wont make the play off's. we would beat them over 2 games anyway.
Stuttgart88
10/09/2009, 8:51 AM
I think we can consider ourselves very unlucky that we do not have first place in this group within our control considering our results in this campaign. The only result where we may feel we shouldve done better is probably Bulgaria at home, other than that our results have been very good.
Tom Humphries wrote a piece last week banging on about how lucky we have been in this campaign, but I still maintain that we've had our spots of bad luck too, not to mention Italy's points haul covering up just how much rub of the green they've had.
I remember a few years back I posted a piece pointing out how many points-per-game you need to get first or second. I can't remember the stats but I'm sure 2 PPG was pretty much the goal. When the draw for the campaign was made we thought it was a tough-ish group. I personally wanted to avoid Eastern European teams and we got a whole bunch of them. Montenegro were no way a last seed, Georgia were a tough team (they runied Scotland's chances), Italy were World Champs and Bulgaria had finished their Euro 2008 qualifying campaign very strongly. We, on the other hand, were a shambles.
bennocelt
10/09/2009, 9:09 AM
Beglin is a boring arsehole anyway.
yeah I cant stand the man
drummerboy
10/09/2009, 9:55 AM
yeah I cant stand the man
I think he is probably the best co-comentator there is. He knows the game.
punkrocket
10/09/2009, 10:02 AM
[QUOTE]I think we are going to end up in a play off against the North
Ok, so we're not going to get the north which would have been good value, 2 good matches which we'd probably have come out of ahead. Of all the teams currently sitting in second place in their groups I'd fancy our chances against most of them. Our points tally compares favourably as well, apart from Russia. Lot's of eastern europeans in there and so far we've manged all right against them in our group. I'm getting hopeful of getting to south africa now.
bennocelt
10/09/2009, 10:09 AM
I think he is probably the best co-comentator there is. He knows the game.
jesus, anyway its a matter of opinion:)
eaststand85
10/09/2009, 2:29 PM
Just the one OG - the other was a defensive mix-up (to be polite)
Beglin will never mention us - knows which side his bread is buttered on.
You're right of course, think I temporarily blocked out the details due to post traumatic kilbane disorder!
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