RTE

[gufc2000]

So they are going to show Panathakanaikos and At. Madrid on Wednesday, ahead of Pats and Steaua on Thursday.

Shame on them

[thischarmingman]

Are they showing Pats game on Thurs?

Also, does anyone know how much do RTE pay for the Panathakanaikos game on Wednesday?

[gufc2000]

Are they showing Pats game on Thurs?

Also, does anyone know how much do RTE pay for the Panathakanaikos game on Wednesday?
No, no screening

[thischarmingman]

No, no screening

Been said before, but absolutely appalling.

[gael353]

just watched MNS and yet another terrible show. But what is clear is that RTE do not want it or dont value it. Before, during, adds and after promos for the GAA and sunday game and centenary 125. They even told us in MNS that panelist Dave Barry had won two all irelands with cork FFS.

Comment of the night came from that chap Foley about Pats going to Bucharest in an empty stadium. They wont be used to it he said, as the highlights fade from pats game with monaghan in Century Homes Park attn 120 a rat and 4 ball boys, quickly followed by Fingal Vs Athlone in front of ......lots :cool:

[Dunny]

Been said before, but absolutely appalling.

It's not on RTE but it will be broadcast afaik.

[BeaumontBohs]

Cork have a new CEO . Some coup getting him off Celtic

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0818/corkcity.html

[dcfcsteve]

Cork have a new CEO . Some coup getting him off Celtic

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0818/corkcity.html


:confused:

Celtic Seconds vs Cork City. Whoopee.....

[Mr A]

Well Bohs Reserves V Liverpool Toddlers packed Dalymount last night, so it should be a winner.

[Dunny]

:confused:

Celtic Seconds vs Cork City. Whoopee.....

They had Peter Lawwell down as Cork's CEO earlier.

[ped_ped]

Is Irish Professional Soccer Viable? (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/2009/0816/tw_soccer_av.html)

I don't want a debate on this subject in this thread, that'd be severely off-topic, but moreso:

Does RTE have a right to put together these 'exclusives'?

Do they have any class of a mandate for reports like this with the laughable coverage of the league?

When during the three months where Irish soccer fans are denied Premier League football, they feature not a single LOI match, but at the start of the LOI season (just as most soccer fans are interested in the English Title Race) and the end of the LOI season (when we're back into the English domestic season) they decide to throw up three or four games?

When they referred to Monaghan United as Monaghan Town?

When they'd rather show Atletico Madrid vs Panathanaikos than Saint Patrick's Athletic vs Steaua Bucharest?

If you're gonna ignore the league, please do it fcuking right, and don't commission reports about the state of it when you won't show its representatives in major European ties.

[A face]

Is Irish Professional Soccer Viable? (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/2009/0816/tw_soccer_av.html)

I don't want a debate on this subject in this thread, that'd be severely off-topic, but moreso:

Does RTE have a right to put together these 'exclusives'?

Do they have any class of a mandate for reports like this with the laughable coverage of the league?

When during the three months where Irish soccer fans are denied Premier League football, they feature not a single LOI match, but at the start of the LOI season (just as most soccer fans are interested in the English Title Race) and the end of the LOI season (when we're back into the English domestic season) they decide to throw up three or four games?

When they referred to Monaghan United as Monaghan Town?

When they'd rather show Atletico Madrid vs Panathanaikos than Saint Patrick's Athletic vs Steaua Bucharest?

If you're gonna ignore the league, please do it fcuking right, and don't commission reports about the state of it when you won't show its representatives in major European ties.

That is an excellent point. Man, need to email RTE with that straight away (sportonline@rte.ie). Include the complaints dept. in it (complaints@rte.ie) and the Broadcasting Commission of Ireland (info@bci.ie)

They cant have it both ways as you rightly point out.

If anyone else felt like giving them some what for then get writing.

[gspain]

Anybody who watches the GAA on RTE know if they advertise MNS and their live league of ireland football during their gah coverage?

[GalwayRed]

Anybody who watches the GAA on RTE know if they advertise MNS and their live league of ireland football during their gah coverage?
I watch a bit of the GAA on rte and i havent seen the league or mns advertised once.

[Penfold]

I emailed RTE complaints dept. and RTE Sports a few weeks ago about the disgraceful coverage of St. Pats in the round against Sovetov. I made a general point about the obvious bias toward GAA. I also made the point that RTE needed to generate interest in LOI on TV in order to stimulate advertiser interest and this would pay financial dividends for the league and RTE over time.
Stephen Alkin (Exec producer RTE Sports) got back to me today. See Below!




Many thanks for your email.

Clearly RTE is not biased against domestic football. Our commitment to Irish soccer over the next few years is considerable. It includes 13 live games in the League of Ireland and the FAI cup this year; 18 in 2010; 23 in 2011; 28 in 2012;and 33 in 2013. In addition there will be 36 Monday Night Soccer programmes every year until 2013, with every game covered in the domestic league and cup.

In these times RTE is not immune from the downturn of the economy. We have lost €68m in advertising revenue in the past year. We have covered many of the Irish sides in Europe in recent years: Cork City, Drogheda Utd, Bohemians and St Pats. More indeed than any other station in Ireland.

However, in 2009 we have no spare funds. We have had to cut back on a lot of our output and soccer is not immune from that.

Kind regards,

Stephen Alkin
Exec Producer RTE TV Sport

[ped_ped]

Many thanks for your email

Clearly RTE is not biased against domestic football. Our commitment to Irish soccer over the next few years is considerable. It includes 13 live games in the League of Ireland and the FAI cup this year; 18 in 2010; 23 in 2011; 28 in 2012;and 33 in 2013. In addition there will be 36 Monday Night Soccer programmes every year until 2013, with every game covered in the domestic league and cup.

In these times RTE is not immune from the downturn of the economy. We have lost €68m in advertising revenue in the past year. We have covered many of the Irish sides in Europe in recent years: Cork City, Drogheda Utd, Bohemians and St Pats. More indeed than any other station in Ireland.

However, in 2009 we have no spare funds. We have had to cut back on a lot of our output and soccer is not immune from that.

Kind regards,

Stephen Alkin
Exec Producer RTE TV Sport

Could the funds required for each of Bohemians/Derry/St. Pat's European fixtures, as well as a LOI game almost biweekly (one Friday, once Saturday) be raised if the World Cup Dress-Rehearsal (AKA The Confederations Cup) and the shoddy celebrity boxing (Lords of the Rings) weren't commissioned for RTE?

Just sayin' is all...

[WoodquayBoy]

I In addition there will be 36 Monday Night Soccer programmes every year until 2013, with every game covered in the domestic league and cup.

I won't hold me breath over every First Division game being covered

[gspain]

That is a copout as the FAI are paying €3 million for MNS.

I bet the Gah don't pay to have their games shown.,

[fionnsci]

That is a copout as the FAI are paying €3 million for MNS.

I bet the Gah don't pay to have their games shown.,

Yes because their games draw in audiences. It's not (for the most part anyway) RTE's fault that loi football doesn't appeal to the masses in this country.

[Rovers Maniac]

At the end of the Sunday game i heard them a few times mention sports coming up this week and they would mention MNS

[dcfcsteve]

Yes because their games draw in audiences. It's not (for the most part anyway) RTE's fault that loi football doesn't appeal to the masses in this country.

Which would be all very well, were RTE a solely commercial broadcaster.

But they're not. They have a public service requirement, which they receive license funding for. This to ensure they can cover the full breadth of Irish life - including sport in Ireland - without having to be a god-awful American sit-com mess like TV3.

So in-effect they're getting paid twice to show Irish football, as they should be covering it to some degree anyway under their public service remit/funding.

[thischarmingman]

Yes because their games draw in audiences. It's not (for the most part anyway) RTE's fault that loi football doesn't appeal to the masses in this country.

http://foot.ie/forums/showpost.php?p=1192837&postcount=6

[fergalr]

RTE website doing their bit for up to date coverage of the domestic league:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/ireland_index.html

[MeathDrog]

Bohs' win over Dundalk was the main soccer headline on RTE ahead of the Pl fixtures tonight. They've obviously been listening to their complaints.

[bennocelt]

Yes because their games draw in audiences. It's not (for the most part anyway) RTE's fault that loi football doesn't appeal to the masses in this country.

dont agree with this............... you get wall to wall gah progs on all the time then the LOi hasnt a chance at all.................I mean celeb bannistor, the road to croker, the local heroes thing, etc etc etc.......how many gah progs are on the TV? Wouldnt it be nice if they did something with irish league fans etc?

[fionnsci]

dont agree with this............... you get wall to wall gah progs on all the time then the LOi hasnt a chance at all

Supply, demand.

MNS is that chance.

[dcfcsteve]

Supply, demand.



Tv License, public service responsibility....

[gael353]

dont agree with this............... you get wall to wall gah progs on all the time then the LOi hasnt a chance at all.................I mean celeb bannistor, the road to croker, the local heroes thing, etc etc etc.......how many gah progs are on the TV? Wouldnt it be nice if they did something with irish league fans etc?

being saying this all along. the increse in GAA programmes in the last two years is nothing short of propaganda. Started with Underdogs, in irish of course to remind us of our gealic identity. Celeb Bannistoir to say any fool can get involved with the GAA, road to croker for the auld ones but that local hero thing took the ****, if they could have a muck savage roaring at me in a darkened room with a Nazi sign on his arm then this programme was it. but its not just our sport,
our athletes are at the world championships at the moment and doing quite well. They are more amateur then the GAA "expences" lads, being on minimum wage. RTE didnt cover the championships instead wasting all budgets on GAA programming some of which are mentioned above.

are you reading stephen alkin? your not biggotted your just their sponsor, and main propagandist

[eL Bettor]

Read the last line of the Pats preview:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0820/steaua_stpats.html



Just as Mark Quigley did in the previous round, you can follow the game at the Stad Gheneca from 6.30pm on RTÉ Aertel. :rolleyes:

[longfordjames]

FFS!!

[Raheny Red]

He did though.

[holidaysong]

Bohs' win over Dundalk was the main soccer headline on RTE ahead of the Pl fixtures tonight. They've obviously been listening to their complaints.

No, that's just an anti-Dundalk bias.. ;)

[eL Bettor]

And after all of that - at the moment on aertel p 234, it just has the fixture listed but no score!

[Schumi]

no score!

They're right so!

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

I emailed RTE complaints dept. and RTE Sports a few weeks ago about the disgraceful coverage of St. Pats in the round against Sovetov. I made a general point about the obvious bias toward GAA. I also made the point that RTE needed to generate interest in LOI on TV in order to stimulate advertiser interest and this would pay financial dividends for the league and RTE over time.
Stephen Alkin (Exec producer RTE Sports) got back to me today. See Below!




Many thanks for your email.

Clearly RTE is not biased against domestic football. Our commitment to Irish soccer over the next few years is considerable. It includes 13 live games in the League of Ireland and the FAI cup this year; 18 in 2010; 23 in 2011; 28 in 2012;and 33 in 2013. In addition there will be 36 Monday Night Soccer programmes every year until 2013, with every game covered in the domestic league and cup.

In these times RTE is not immune from the downturn of the economy. We have lost €68m in advertising revenue in the past year. We have covered many of the Irish sides in Europe in recent years: Cork City, Drogheda Utd, Bohemians and St Pats. More indeed than any other station in Ireland.

However, in 2009 we have no spare funds. We have had to cut back on a lot of our output and soccer is not immune from that.

Kind regards,

Stephen Alkin
Exec Producer RTE TV Sport

They seemed to manage to find some spare funds to send Collins, Whelan, Hamilton and whatever amount of crew was needed over to Turin last night

[Réiteoir]

Many thanks for your email.

Clearly RTE is not biased against domestic football.

Could have fooled me

Our commitment to Irish soccer over the next few years is considerable. It includes 13 live games in the League of Ireland and the FAI cup this year;

Wow - a WHOLE 13 live games - quick, break open the bunting and alert the press!

18 in 2010; 23 in 2011; 28 in 2012;and 33 in 2013.

So we'll have to wait a whole 4 years to get to a level of coverage which other broadcasters give their National League

In addition there will be 36 Monday Night Soccer programmes every year until 2013, with every game covered in the domestic league and cup.

Except for the First Division of course

In these times RTE is not immune from the downturn of the economy. We have lost €68m in advertising revenue in the past year.

We have covered many of the Irish sides in Europe in recent years: Cork City, Drogheda Utd, Bohemians and St Pats. More indeed than any other station in Ireland.

Except when Bohs played Salzburg, Pats played Sovetov and Steaua, etc. etc.

However, in 2009 we have no spare funds. We have had to cut back on a lot of our output and soccer is not immune from that.

Lets see you try to cut back on the GAA Coverage - and what reaction that would get. Fairs fair and all

Kind regards,

Stephen Alkin
Exec Producer RTE TV Sport

Think we need to file this email in the folder "Lip Service"

[bennocelt]

I was just thinking of this again last nite................still cant get over the fact RTe didnt even bother to show one LOI team this season in Europe.............a bloody disgrace.............I for onw will never pay for a RTE TV licence (im in the UK now though!!:p)

[gspain]

Don't forget the FAI are paying them €3 million for MNS.

[ped_ped]

Don't forget the FAI are paying them €3 million for MNS.

Are you serious?! :eek:

[pineapple stu]

Are you serious that you didn't know this?

Been mentioned here several times.

[brianw82]

Are you serious that you didn't know this?

Been mentioned here several times.

Also never been proven. :)

[pineapple stu]

Outside being mentioned by the FAI at one of the Fans' Forums which several people on here attended.

Unless you're accusing the FAI of sometimes not being entirely truthful just so they come across in a good light?

[thischarmingman]

It's E3m "indirectly" though isn't it? In that, the FAI reduced their asking price in exchange for a weekly prime time highlights show.

Not that it makes any difference but just wanted to clarify.

[brianw82]

Unless you're accusing the FAI of sometimes not being entirely truthful just so they come across in a good light?

eh....buh.....errr.................no

I have nothing but admiration for the FAI :D

[Mad Moose]

It's E3m "indirectly" though isn't it? In that, the FAI reduced their asking price in exchange for a weekly prime time highlights show.

Not that it makes any difference but just wanted to clarify.

Is it 3m per annum?

[Sheridan]

It's €4m over the course of the contact. Don't know how long the contract is for, though.

[Mad Moose]

It's €4m over the course of the contact. Don't know how long the contract is for, though.

According to Alkin

'In addition there will be 36 Monday Night Soccer programmes every year until 2013'

[gspain]

It's E3m "indirectly" though isn't it? In that, the FAI reduced their asking price in exchange for a weekly prime time highlights show.

Not that it makes any difference but just wanted to clarify.

The FAI agreed that RTE could reduce their "offer" by 3 million in return for MNS.

It met with stern resistance from RTE but they agreed.

It is still the equivalent of 3 million euro in cash that the FAI have to forego to allow a highlights programme on RTE.

Now I enjoy MNS and it is normally the only programme I watch on RTE these days. I can live with the lack of first division coverage but it is a bit much RTE claiming they are committed to domestic football when they would clearly rather not show it.

No doubt the English FA have to pay RTE to show the premiership on saturday nights too. :eek::rolleyes:

[thischarmingman]

No doubt the English FA have to pay RTE to show the premiership on saturday nights too. :eek::rolleyes:

See, this is the bit that really gets me. RTE are paying for, ie. spending our licence fee money, on a highlights show that is already available for anyone in Ireland to view, just a couple of hours later on BBC1.

[pineapple stu]

Presumably they'll say the extra advertising revenue during the show means it pays for itself.