FAI Junior Cup 2009/10

[YNWA]

If St.Michaels have an objection in, it's game over for Pike. Mick's have alot of "friends" on council. It's just a shame teams(inc Pike) can't just roll over and take the loss, you've been beaten by the better team, end of story.

i dont agree with this take your beating and get on with it nonsense,rules are rules they are there to be followed pike only have themselves to blame if it does go against them,i hope its not true id love to see a pike fairview final.

[Ronald1]

fairview: hickey,hehir,harmon,buckley,neary,heffernan,o brien,barrett,doyle,o.sullivan,grant,subs cosgrave,danagher
goals:doyle,barrett,o.sullivan
pike:neville,daly,cleary,enright,mullins,ryan,mcga rry,hanrahan,moloney,phelan,subs donovan,carroll
goals:enright,donovan,carroll,hanrahan

Is it any wonder Pike were 2 down, can you tell me redcardrory at what stage did they bring on the 11th player????

[blinkx]

thats what it shows on the paper in the line up i'll try find out who's missing sorry about that

O'Grady.

[Longshanks]

The rule used to be that you had to be 3 years out of Pro before being fully regraded and you could play four x LOI players in the cup.Think the rule now is and i am open to correction, that you can play as many as you like unless the are regraded in that season. eg Dave Ryan, Wayne colbert Brian Clary and Brendan daly could not play yesterday....lucky for Pike that wayne did not play if thats the case.Fair play to Pike grat comeback and best of luck in the semi...hopefully an all Limerick Final.

Not sure, but I thought it was 5 years before you were regraded, remember hearing this rule 2 or 3 years ago. Castlebar celtic were haunted and hounded over it too, think Abbey Utd had issues with it too. Still it would be an awful pity for Pike to get this close and be thrown out in an office, but surely a club with the resources of Pikes would be smart enough to have all the bases covered. If not shame on you.

Shows that at least 95% of the teams that enter the Junior Cup are ****ing into the wind when it boils down to a few clubs with a host of Junior International caps and ex-LOI players

[pearse4t3]

The rule used to be that you had to be 3 years out of Pro before being fully regraded and you could play four x LOI players in the cup.Think the rule now is and i am open to correction, that you can play as many as you like unless the are regraded in that season. eg Dave Ryan, Wayne colbert Brian Clary and Brendan daly could not play yesterday....lucky for Pike that wayne did not play if thats the case.Fair play to Pike grat comeback and best of luck in the semi...hopefully an all Limerick Final.

I'd imagine Colm Carroll was the 4th ex league of Ireland player. In fairness i doubt Saints have a case.

[mulla]

so you are saying if its true pike will be thrown out so should fairview and every team they have beaten should object not just st.micheals(cry babies):weep: they should learn how to take a beaten,

i don't know the rule so who's to say it was broken in previous rounds or if anyone else has broken it,judging by the comments so far not many other people know the rule either so maybe that is why there have been no objections thus far,maybe st mick are clutching at straws but no matter what the competition in any sport as far as i'm aware if you break the rules there are implications so why should the fai cup be any different.

[peterc1992]

Delighted for Clonmel Town after everyone on this and in particular Limerick people stating that even kilmallock would "ease past" Clonmel.....interesting game with Pike now

Fair play to clonmel but i thought willow were the better team.Yee scored very early and all the separated the teams in teh end was a goal just out of nowhere.Willow i thought deserved it more over the 90 minutes but clonmel were good at the back and more physical than willow although willow were probably the better team technicaly

[mulla]

this is all about pike what about fairview,they have exleague of ireland players and correct me if i'm right or wrong there is alot of other teams out there that has ex players in their ranks and nothing about them playing in the fai junior cup

of course its all about pike sure there the only team on the receiving end of the objection aren't they

[mulla]

sure regionel will wait untill fairview beat them and then object like they done earlier in the round against park,if i was a pike man and a team objected to my team i would give kilmallock a phone call to do the same

i'm not for or against pike tbh,i'd like to see a limerick team win it whoever it is and i'm sure if this does go on and pike are out there will be reprocussions for many teams,
i'd like to see all these rules and regs made clear to clubs at the start of each year as there is so much chopping and changing it has and will affect teams,it would be terrible for the pike pplayers or any player on a team who gets so far in a competition to be out on a technicality but if it does happen to any tean you've got to question the club it self for not knowing the rules

[inspiron]

If any team breaks the rules they deserve to be removed, no matter what sport.. Rules are rules. However they will only be removed following an objection followed by the governing body’s due process and decision. It’s all idle chit chat at present with not substance.

Thus all the s1t on here does not matter, but having said that it makes for great reading.

[maestro]

sure regionel will wait untill fairview beat them and then object like they done earlier in the round against park,if i was a pike man and a team objected to my team i would give kilmallock a phone call to do the same

You are right, Regional should never have objected to a team fielding an unsigned player whose nickname was put on the match card because no one knew his real name. It's only the FAI sure!
Disgraceful behaviour really......

[tipp man]

Tipp FM poured cold water on any objection tonight. This might not get off the blocks. Seems like the rumour mill has this all wrong, wrong, utterly wrong.

[pimpong]

sure regionel will wait untill fairview beat them and then object like they done earlier in the round against park,if i was a pike man and a team objected to my team i would give kilmallock a phone call to do the same

listen if this rule is correct and if and i stress if their is an objection gone threw then pike should be out..Pike would do the exact same if it was them as would any club so dont give this bull about taking your beating if your beating unfairly u deserve to object im totally 50-50 here and if thier is no truth in this rule then well done pike great win..and more stupid talk about regional they didnt break the rules park did and look were they are now in the semi..i would love to see regional win it best of luck

[pimpong]

Tipp FM poured cold water on any objection tonight. This might not get off the blocks. Seems like the rumour mill has this all wrong, wrong, utterly wrong.
now evrything sorted out by the looks of it move on

[da bishop]

lads just to clarify something,of course a manager has the right to celebrate a goal amid all the excitment of coming from 2 goals down but not the way the pike manager conducted himself yesterday,he ran 30 yards towards the micheals bench ,motioning a fingered gesture which shamed his very fine club and totally disrespected the home teams manager who i must say showed amazing self restraint...enough said.as regards objections i,m sure pike have nothing to worry about as they will surely have had everything checked out well in advance,it was a tremendous victory,so roll on clonmel.

[gaidin]

Not sure, but I thought it was 5 years before you were regraded, remember hearing this rule 2 or 3 years ago. Castlebar celtic were haunted and hounded over it too, think Abbey Utd had issues with it too. Still it would be an awful pity for Pike to get this close and be thrown out in an office, but surely a club with the resources of Pikes would be smart enough to have all the bases covered. If not shame on you.

Shows that at least 95% of the teams that enter the Junior Cup are ****ing into the wind when it boils down to a few clubs with a host of Junior International caps and ex-LOI players

Not all players with Limerick would have been down as PRO either AFAIK. Some would have been amatuer still as they would have been on part-time contracts so they would not have needed regrading..

[leather]

Once you are 12 months out of senior football you are AUTOMATICALLY graded as an amatuer player.LOI status is no longer part of the equation.

[joeSoap]

This is all a huge load of horse sh1t. Pike are too professional an outfit not to have every single law and by-law checked out and I'd put my house on there not being any sort of objection lodged anywhere. Seriously, this section of the forum is a laughing stock sometimes with the wild conjecture and mindless muck spreading displayed on it. Stick to the football lads.

I fancy a Pike v Fairview final now, and they'll have to sell tickets for that. It will be a bumper crowd. Regional, although a very good footballing side, seem to be a little light squad wise and with the exception of Aherne, Galvin and Butler don't seem to have players with the bottle for the big game. Pike will be well up for it after last Sundays comeback.

When are the games on?

[twohalves]

Easter Saturday (April 3rd) Fairview v Regional,7.30pm,Jackman. The other semi is in Cooke park I think on Easter Sunday at 2.30pm.

[allab]

Easter Saturday (April 3rd) Fairview v Regional,7.30pm,Jackman. The other semi is in Cooke park I think on Easter Sunday at 2.30pm.

pikes game is at cahir park

[hooper74]

does any of the saints boys on hear or any tipp man give pike a chance agaisnt town ?

Pike are clear favourites and have been favourites before a ball was kicked in this years competition

[tipp man]

I saw Pike against Saints and have seen Clonmel Town several times this year. IMO these are two teams with different styles. Yes Pike are a very talented outfit with very talented players. However, I think the way they went down easily, got into the referee's face at every opportunity, howled at every tackle left a poor taste. The behaviour of the manager after the fourth goal only reinforces the view that Pike are a team that a hard to like.

Can Pike win? Certainly!
Will Pike win? Very hard call. On paper they are better that Clonmel Town but Town have settled a lot since last autum and are now hard to beat. They gave away two terrible goals in Killarney and are unlikely to make those mistakes again.

My humble opinion: if Pike put in a half like the first half last Sunday they will lose because they will not come from behind against Clonmel. If they play like they played in the second half against Saints they will probably shade it.

If Pike beat Clonmel, they will believe their name is on the cup. But Clonmel like playing in Cahir. It is a lovely ground, lovely pitch and on a fine day, it is one of the finest junior grounds in Ireland. I'm delighted that Cahir Park (who are 100 years old this year) will entertain two of the country's top teams in an FAIJC semi.

[da bishop]

This is all a huge load of horse sh1t. Pike are too professional an outfit not to have every single law and by-law checked out and I'd put my house on there not being any sort of objection lodged anywhere. Seriously, this section of the forum is a laughing stock sometimes with the wild conjecture and mindless muck spreading displayed on it. Stick to the football lads.

I fancy a Pike v Fairview final now, and they'll have to sell tickets for that. It will be a bumper crowd. Regional, although a very good footballing side, seem to be a little light squad wise and with the exception of Aherne, Galvin and Butler don't seem to have players with the bottle for the big game. Pike will be well up for it after last Sundays comeback.

When are the games on?howya joe,er btw how much is your house worth?.....just in case like.

[trueview6]

Barry your starting to sound like pat Dolan if i want to read a book ill go to easons.

[Aanother]

This is all a huge load of horse sh1t. Pike are too professional an outfit not to have every single law and by-law checked out and I'd put my house on there not being any sort of objection lodged anywhere. Seriously, this section of the forum is a laughing stock sometimes with the wild conjecture and mindless muck spreading displayed on it. Stick to the football lads.

I fancy a Pike v Fairview final now, and they'll have to sell tickets for that. It will be a bumper crowd. Regional, although a very good footballing side, seem to be a little light squad wise and with the exception of Aherne, Galvin and Butler don't seem to have players with the bottle for the big game. Pike will be well up for it after last Sundays comeback.

When are the games on?

Lots of experience in Regionals squad, and I'm sure they will be quietly confident against a Fairview team that knows this semi will be anything but straight forward. Was at their last league meeting and How regional lost is beyond me, bar a deflected goal Regional battered them. Regional V Pike final for me.

[Get a life]

Lots of experience in Regionals squad, and I'm sure they will be quietly confident against a Fairview team that knows this semi will be anything but straight forward. Was at their last league meeting and How regional lost is beyond me, bar a deflected goal Regional battered them. Regional V Pike final for me.

Will you be back for it?

[leather]

Pike will win the FAI end of story...thats my 2 pence on the matter...

[Town Fan]

as a Clonmel Town fan I hope you are wrong but I have to agree- I cannot see town beating Pike- I don't think we have enough goals in our side and I cannot see our midfield competing with Pike's.
Would love to beat Pike for a lot of reasons but cannot see it

[celticlads]

pikes game is at cahir park

cooke park is cahir park, lovely suface and should make for a cracking game.

[supersol]

i was at the Willow v Cloñmel match...

Cloñmel Goal was a Cracker!!!
But their antics were very poor regards Time Wasting / players faking Injuries / Manager kicking a second ball on the pitch etc. They never tried to play ball at all!!

The better Football team lost but results are what count!!

I hope they go on to win the cup but i doubt they will??

[trueview6]

We have played clonmel down through the years they always have football teams sad if they convert to those tactics

[carrick hoops]

[QUOTE=joeSoap;1334629]This is all a huge load of horse sh1t. Pike are too professional an outfit not to have every single law and by-law checked out and I'd put my house on there not being any sort of objection lodged anywhere. Seriously, this section of the forum is a laughing stock sometimes with the wild conjecture and mindless muck spreading displayed on it. Stick to the football lads.

I fancy a Pike v Fairview final now, and they'll have to sell tickets for that. It will be a bumper crowd. Regional, although a very good footballing side, seem to be a little light squad wise and with the exception of Aherne, Galvin and Butler don't seem to have players with the bottle for the big game. Pike will be well up for it after last Sundays comeback "" they seem to be professional ok , in lots of ways" !!!!!!!

[serpico]

Leave out the sarcism carrick hoop.let's just say they do things properly and what harm is that.if you're trying to insinuate something just come out and say it.

[barryk]

Leave out the sarcism carrick hoop.let's just say they do things properly and what harm is that.if you're trying to insinuate something just come out and say it.

St Michaels have objected against Pike and Kilmallock have objected against Fairview.
Micks maintain Colm Carroll and Davey Ryan were not regraded properly. The Tipp lads reckon its black and white.
Kilmallock are claiming Paul Danagher assisted three clubs in the one season. Don't know about this?

[pearse4t3]

St Michaels have objected against Pike and Kilmallock have objected against Fairview.
Micks maintain Colm Carroll and Davey Ryan were not regraded properly. The Tipp lads reckon its black and white.
Kilmallock are claiming Paul Danagher assisted three clubs in the one season. Don't know about this?

Paul played with both Limerick and Mervue(on loan) in the last 12 months, so Fairview are his 3rd club but i'd imagine the 'view would have this sounded it out before they played him.

[gaidin]

St Michaels have objected against Pike and Kilmallock have objected against Fairview.
Micks maintain Colm Carroll and Davey Ryan were not regraded properly. The Tipp lads reckon its black and white.
Kilmallock are claiming Paul Danagher assisted three clubs in the one season. Don't know about this?

Regraded from what? Professional? What if they were amatuer up in Limerick do they still need regrading to play junior?

[Goals4fun]

can anybody from Kilmallock or Michaels confirm or deny their objections....

[BigfeetBigsocks]

Paul played with both Limerick and Mervue(on loan) in the last 12 months, so Fairview are his 3rd club but i'd imagine the 'view would have this sounded it out before they played him.

Does a Loan consitute one of three clubs.... He was signed limerick and was still a Limerick player when playing for Mervue.... you see it all the the time in the premiership etc a player is signed loaned out then gets signed by different club in January Transfer window.....so why is there different rules for Junior soccer? or am i just talking tripe ;)

[widow]

Is there a date set for the final, does anybody know?

[barryk]

Is there a date set for the final, does anybody know?

2011 the way things are going

[Ash]

They never tried to play ball at all!!


Yeah, I was only around for the 1st half but with the early goal they just seemed intent on time wasting for the other
44 minutes 30 seconds of the half. I presume the 2nd half was similar?

[SeniorBlue]

Lads i've been following soccer for a long time in Limerick and i feel sorry for clubs in general, the FAI are a disgraceful organisation and probably the word organisation is wrong because they simply can't organise. There never seems to be any defined laws, there is ambiguity in everything they do and they never come out with a statement of any kind to keep anybody up to date. I just hope they come out and clearly state what is going on and if objections are in where do they stand and when will it all be started.

its a pity for the four clubs left (possibly 6 of course) that the competition is beind dragged down to this level again and if the clubs were guilty i hope it get s sorted quickly

[Town Fan]

Lads i've been following soccer for a long time in Limerick and i feel sorry for clubs in general, the FAI are a disgraceful organisation and probably the word organisation is wrong because they simply can't organise. There never seems to be any defined laws, there is ambiguity in everything they do and they never come out with a statement of any kind to keep anybody up to date. I just hope they come out and clearly state what is going on and if objections are in where do they stand and when will it all be started.

its a pity for the four clubs left (possibly 6 of course) that the competition is beind dragged down to this level again and if the clubs were guilty i hope it get s sorted quickly

Trust me I find it very hard to feel sorry for Pike. They knew the rules and were very quick to point out the rules to get Town thrown out of the Munster. The rules were very unclear then and stil are. Yes the FAI are a joke but for me and most people having sympathy for Pike- forget it. Irony is a word that comes to mind. It’s not an ideal way to win or lose an FAI but as they told us in Pike back in 2007- rules are rules!!

[leather]

Maybe the Limerick lads could help out with this . was P.Danagher released and then went to mervue or was he just loaned...if he was just loaned he should be okay but if he was released and registered with mervue....can of worms..then it would be 3 clubs in 12 months.

[pearse4t3]

Is there a date set for the final, does anybody know?
May bank-holiday weekend.

[Innishvilla]

Does a Loan consitute one of three clubs.... He was signed limerick and was still a Limerick player when playing for Mervue.... you see it all the the time in the premiership etc a player is signed loaned out then gets signed by different club in January Transfer window.....so why is there different rules for Junior soccer? or am i just talking tripe ;)

Not sure didn't Jamie O'Hara have an issue as he had played for Spurs, then was on loan & played for Portsmouth - he then was unavailable to any club looking to buy him in the January window - so he has stayed with Portsmouth??? I could be wrong on this.

By the way I am not commenting in relation to the Fairview situation as I don't know the details - just responding to BigFeet...

[complexman]

Trust me I find it very hard to feel sorry for Pike. They knew the rules and were very quick to point out the rules to get Town thrown out of the Munster. The rules were very unclear then and stil are. Yes the FAI are a joke but for me and most people having sympathy for Pike- forget it. Irony is a word that comes to mind. It’s not an ideal way to win or lose an FAI but as they told us in Pike back in 2007- rules are rules!!

I concur with that- have no sympathy with them what so ever- I have no problem stating that I am laughing so much I am wetting myself.

[green&white]

Trust me I find it very hard to feel sorry for Pike. They knew the rules and were very quick to point out the rules to get Town thrown out of the Munster. The rules were very unclear then and stil are. Yes the FAI are a joke but for me and most people having sympathy for Pike- forget it. Irony is a word that comes to mind. It’s not an ideal way to win or lose an FAI but as they told us in Pike back in 2007- rules are rules!!

I agree with Town Fan ,but same rules are there ror all , and it is each clubs responsibility to ensure their clubs entries and panel are within these rules.
Any club in doubt on any issue need only contact FAI Hon .Sec for advise . Maybe ,just maybe, some clubs are above advice.

[BigfeetBigsocks]

Not sure didn't Jamie O'Hara have an issue as he had played for Spurs, then was on loan & played for Portsmouth - he then was unavailable to any club looking to buy him in the January window - so he has stayed with Portsmouth??? I could be wrong on this.

By the way I am not commenting in relation to the Fairview situation as I don't know the details - just responding to BigFeet...

But he was available to be loaned out again, as Newcastle were interested in that option so it would have still been three clubs he would have played for in the year- Spurs, Portsmouth & Newcastle if went ahead. I am not sure of what the procedure is of the three club rule i thought it only apllies if a player signs for three different clubs but O'Hara has only signed for one club Spurs a loaned out to other club. The Danagher situation i think will be sticky if he had signed for Mervue or if he just was loaned out. If the latter i personally think the View are ok but if not the latter then there could be trouble.

[twohalves]

It's all very sad really.The days of actually acknowledging that you were beaten by the better team are gone with all these objections being lodged after a team is knocked out.Even before the games last Sunday certain clubs were digging deep for any potential objections they could lodge if they were knocked out.Ironically though,this type of "dirty tricks behaviour" in Limerick anyway was started by a certain club up the Crossagalla direction when the infamous objection against Carew park a few years ago when Westport were awarded a replay against them which they won an went on to win the FAI that year.