If it's Monday - it must be European Draws Day...

[pineapple stu]

ryanair fly direct to it
Direct from Stansted though.

[redobit]

So basically they have put the most westerly team and the most easterly team in Europe, that are in the competition, in the same group. ffs

[Infadel]

Its not the worst draw for Bohs. Looking at the team there are a few Bundesliga rejects playing for them so they would be a fairly ordinary outfit apart from Janko.

[pineapple stu]

Its not the worst draw for Bohs.
It's a tough draw for the stage they're at. Also, Salzburg have Red Bull's millions behind them.

Here's their European record (http://kassiesa.com/uefaclubs/search/fm.php). Not great by any means, but they're very efficient against the lower echelons.

[Dodge]

So basically they have put the most westerly team and the most easterly team in Europe, that are in the competition, in the same group. ffs

Its based on rankings, not region

[Infadel]

It's a tough draw for the stage they're at. Also, Salzburg have Red Bull's millions behind them.

Here's their European record (http://kassiesa.com/uefaclubs/search/fm.php). Not great by any means, but they're very efficient against the lower echelons.
I see what you mean but looking at their squad they seem to make a lot of changes to their team each season and although they do have Red Bull's millions behind them the only players they do attract are form the Czech and Slovak leagues and a few players from the lower placed German Bundesliga.

[redobit]

Its based on rankings, not region

So its based on the coefficent then - How is it that they can put malta (the worst of the unseeded teams) in our group.

[OneRedArmy]

So basically they have put the most westerly team and the most easterly team in Europe, that are in the competition, in the same group. ffsKazakhstan being in UEFA is a joke. Extra votes for UEFA at the FIFA table seems to be the primary reason, along with the Kazakhs getting the hump with the Asians.

[ltfc_2004]

for travel hell, imagine going to Atkobe, Kazakhstan from iceland for that champions league qualifier

[Sheridan]

It was the only reason. The original proposal was to exchange Kazakhstan for Azerbaijan, in the end UEFA retained both.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Its not the worst draw for Bohs. Looking at the team there are a few Bundesliga rejects playing for them so they would be a fairly ordinary outfit apart from Janko.

It's an awful draw for us. Artificial pitch to boot, loads of money pumped in by Red Bull. They were one of about 3 or 4 I didn't want to get so gutted really. Only positive is we're home second leg. If we win we'll be the highest ranked non seeded team again so of all the bigger teams in it it was a bad one from that point of view as well. At least they're winter football and we're home 2nd leg I suppose.

[pineapple stu]

Plus you have to give money to Red Bull Salzburg.

[Dodge]

So its based on the coefficent then - How is it that they can put malta (the worst of the unseeded teams) in our group.

They split the seeds up into pots so basically the top 8 seeds are seperated, then the next 8 go into those pots, then the next 8 etc etc

So you could have a pot with one fo the 8 seeds, one of the 9-16, one of the 17-24, one of 25-32, and one of the 33-40 and so on.

Thats the way it was for us in the first round last year, and it looks that way here

[Duggie]

red bull - tough draw. hardly a european force but they would be a different class to bohs. cant see them progressing.

[sligoman]

Draw started:

http://www.uefa.com/live/competitions/uefacup/draw/2010.qr1-2/draw_basic.html

[pineapple stu]

Great stream actually. makes a change frmowatching live blurry Eurosport in previous years.

Assume we don't know when they get to Sligo's pot?

[gustavo]

Vlaznia

[pineapple stu]

Albania it is...

Edit - that's not too bad logistically. Assuming they play in Shkoder, it's almost on the border with Montenegro. Fly to Dubrovnik and drive, or fly via Vienna to Podgorica.

[HarpoJoyce]

Shroder.
They will love it. Its not the capital for a start.

Plenty of different routes to get there aswell.

[Real ale Madrid]

i thought it wasnt starting until 1330 CET?

[Boo_Boy]

So much for 12 f'n 30.

Wen't to pee and and its already done.

[pineapple stu]

Distillery off to Georgia.

[brendy_éire]

i thought it wasnt starting until 1330 CET?

Thought that too.

Distillery off to Georgia.

[Dodge]

i thought it wasnt starting until 1330 CET?

Me too.

regardless. Its not a mountain for Sligo to climb so fingers crossed for them

[Duggie]

albanian's will be tough enough id say. napoli beat them 8-0 over 2 legs last season. hard to know really.

[pineapple stu]

After they'd knocked out a Slovenian side though. Another tough draw.

(Those Bert Kassies links don't work. Go to his site (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/) and click on search; it'll show up their European history, excluding the TotoToto Cup.)

[holidaysong]

At least it's not Kazakhstan!

[Fester]

Randers v Linfield ...... Danish Trip..

[HarpoJoyce]

Two Albanian sides due to play at home on 09th July (mid-week) in the second leg. I don't know if this is enough to make a change to the home ties as they have been drawn though..

[Real ale Madrid]

meanwhile, linfield have a 20% chance of drawing a danish team called randers fc.

I bet that would throw a few of the less literate types in the village, who would turn up expecting to see the scottish champions.....

:d

..... :d

[dcfcsteve]

One train station they speak Russian, the next they speak bloody German or something.

That's travelling round on the DART you're confused with there Boo Boy.....

:D

[fionnsci]

Two Albanian sides due to play at home on 09th July (mid-week) in the second leg. I don't know if this is enough to make a change to the home ties as they have been drawn though..

That shouldn't matter aslong as they don't take place in the same city.

[Boo_Boy]

Meanwhile, Linfield have a 20% chance of Drawing a Danish team called Randers FC.

I bet that would throw a few of the less literate types in The Village, who would turn up expecting to see the Scottish Champions.....

:D


....

....:D

[holidaysong]

Two Albanian sides due to play at home on 09th July (mid-week) in the second leg. I don't know if this is enough to make a change to the home ties as they have been drawn though..

Do they share a ground? :confused:

[dcfcsteve]

Meanwhile, Linfield have a 20% chance of Drawing a Danish team called Randers FC.

I bet that would throw a few of the less literate types in The Village, who would turn up expecting to see the Scottish Champions.....

:D

Kerrching !!

I must stop rubbing my crystal balls......

[Sheridan]

I presume our IL brethren will be approaching their fixtures in their usual professional and cosmopolitan manner, with half of their players on holiday and the other half trying to avoid the local police.

[brendy_éire]

We really don't want to get Qarabag:


"Garabag Agdam

City : Agdam, Azerbijan
Travel : Agdam was a city in Southern Azerbaijan. Today the city which bustled with life just 15 years ago is under Nagorno-Karabakh control, completely deserted and in ruins; it is known as the "Hiroshima of Azerbaijan" and is under Armenian control. Officials of Nagorno-Karabakh advise travelers to stay away from the city, due to its close approximaty to Azerbaijan border."

[pól-dcfc]

Fingers crossed for Bangor or Crues.

[Boo_Boy]

When will the next draw start?

[pól-dcfc]

Anyone have the direct link for the video? Can't find it anywhere.

[dcfcsteve]

When will the next draw start?

Hopefully bloody soon - I'm starving and getting bored of waiting in front of a blank screen...!! :)

[OneRedArmy]

Fingers crossed for Bangor or Crues.

Not my fingers anyway...

[HarpoJoyce]

Do they share a ground? :confused:

UEFA have a grave adversion to two matches going on, in the same mid-week, in the same city (nod to fionnsci) or sometimes the same region. Mobilisation of four separate club fans and the permutations between them, stretch of local resources (incl. emergency services, specialised or elite security.) are some of the reasons for it.
So UEFA usually (it happens alot) makes one, almost unseen, movement and reverses one of the ties. Easy.
Obviously there are occasions when there are three clubs from the same place involved so there is little advantage to a change.

[pól-dcfc]

Not my fingers anyway...

I am unemployed and skint. :o

[A N Mouse]

Is highest seed paired with lowest seed in groups of 5 seeded/unseeded

Would put distillery to colma in with derry, and last named team to winner match 4 in with pats

I think

[Dodge]

Not my fingers anyway...

You should Hope Pats get them then...

[Boo_Boy]

Yours was 45 minutes ago

http://www.uefa.com/live/competitions/uefacup/draw/2010.QR1-2/draw_basic.html

Yea i know but were in the 2nd round too.

[Dodge]

Is highest seed paired with lowest seed in groups of 5 seeded/unseeded

Would put distillery to colma in with derry, and last named team to winner match 4 in with pats

I think


Nope. 5 seeds in with 5 non seeds, then a draw. Some of the winners of the first round will be seeded in the second round

[A N Mouse]

Nope. 5 seeds in with 5 non seeds, then a draw. Some of the winners of the first round will be seeded in the second round

I knew that. What I was asking, badly, is how are those groups matched. Is it the 5 highest seeded team will draw 1 of the 5 lowest unseeded team and so on.

If so then pats would be looking at Juvenes/Dogma through winners of match 4.

capiche?

[OneRedArmy]

You should Hope Pats get them then...

As I said above, I wouldn't wish Lurgan on anyone. Even the away fans from Nagorno Karabakh would go back feeling more positive about their situation.

Andorra or San Marino please!