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gufc2000
21/05/2009, 9:40 PM
Based on recent developments at Oriel Park and from talking with Fans and supporters about financial pressures the board have agreed to increase the admission prices into Oriel Park.

The club has endeavoured to provide value for money to supporters watching Dundalk FC games and resisted the urge to up prices at the start of the year to show a commitment to the many followers of the club during the seven year stint in the First Division. This commitment meant that the club’s admission prices were below the League average and it is this fact and also that fans have shown a willingness to pay a bit extra, which has brought us to this decision.

We do intend to continue to strive to provide value for money and due to this we are only increasing games by a nominal €2 across the board which is still under the average ticket price for League of Ireland clubs. However, for category A matches where there are significant increases in match night costs we are bringing the prices in line with the League average which is €15 into the ground and €20 into the stand.

Our commitment to children attending matches remains very strong and the board are delighted with the amount of U14’s that currently attend matches. Because of this we are not increasing children’s admission prices and they will remain at €5.
We would urge season ticket holders to make a commitment to this increase and will allow them to do so by making a contribution to the club via the office or on match nights.

http://www.dundalkfc.com/news/090519_Tickets.asp

Bit sly asking season ticket holders for extra funds. Could be a long season ahead if they're calling for help already

Rovers Maniac
21/05/2009, 9:55 PM
How wise is this increasing the price in the middle of the season? Not sure how good a PR move this is for them. €20 is a lot of money to see any game in this league it does not seem to have worked in Dublin or in Galway who have a much bigger population not to mention both places being far more affluent than Dundalk. Any club increasing its prices around this time will run the chance of being rediculed by the floating fan.

gufc2000
21/05/2009, 9:59 PM
How wise is this increasing the price in the middle of the season? Not sure how good a PR move this is for them. €20 is a lot of money to see any game in this league it does not seem to have worked in Dublin or in Galway who have a much bigger population not to mention both places being far more affluent than Dundalk. Any club increasing its prices around this time will run the chance of being rediculed by the floating fan.
Was part of our downfall last year. E20 entry, and an extra E5 for those going to the New Stand. The extra E5 was quickly abolished (lasted about 4/5 home games at max if even that).

Rumour going around is George O'Callaghan has left to join a team in Greece and the rest of players have to take 30% pay cut so the mst be in serious trouble if the club still needs to increase prices

pól-dcfc
21/05/2009, 10:05 PM
Rumour going around is George O'Callaghan has left to join a team in Greece and the rest of players have to take 30% pay cut so the mst be in serious trouble if the club still needs to increase prices

Where are yo hearing that? Do you know who it is that he's joined? And more importantly will he be able to drive over there or will the ban be brought across? ;)

Ezeikial
21/05/2009, 10:06 PM
At least the estimated 10 (yes ten) Galway supporters who travelled to support their team in Oriel last week avoided this increase.

With an increase of €2 (now a whopping €12 into the ground) it is unbearable to reflect on the lost €20 in revenue.

This moderate increase, which still leaves tickets prices below the league average, was strongly proposed by the clubs supporters at last weeks Fans Forum.

Season ticket holders (which are almost three times last season sales) have been asked to make a voluntary contribution - reaction on Dundalk fans forum has been generally very positive.

This move, along with other financial initiatives by the club, are very positive and proactive measures to guard against a deficit occuring at seasons end.

gufc2000
21/05/2009, 10:06 PM
Where are yo hearing that? Do you know who it is that he's joined? And more importantly will he be able to drive over there or will the ban be brought across? ;)
Informed by a regular poster on our forum

Dunny
21/05/2009, 10:07 PM
Was part of our downfall last year. E20 entry, and an extra E5 for those going to the New Stand. The extra E5 was quickly abolished (lasted about 4/5 home games at max if even that).

Rumour going around is George O'Callaghan has left to join a team in Greece and the rest of players have to take 30% pay cut so the mst be in serious trouble if the club still needs to increase prices

Would you ever cop on. That rumour came from a few young fellas saying they got a txt! Don't know were yo are getting the pay cut stuff from either. The club are adressing the issue of the shortfall now instead of leaving it to get worse.

Ezeikial
21/05/2009, 10:09 PM
Rumour going around is George O'Callaghan has left to join a team in Greece and the rest of players have to take 30% pay cut so the mst be in serious trouble if the club still needs to increase prices

What a load of nonsense!

Dunny
21/05/2009, 10:11 PM
Informed by a regular poster on our forum

LOL...Must be true so!

Cue the usual Maxi nonsense from the Galway fans...:D

Aaron
21/05/2009, 10:13 PM
Dundalk more or less taking the same approach Pat McDaid took last year by cutting costs to safeguard the future, only its being blown out of proportion and claims they are ****ed.

holidaysong
21/05/2009, 10:14 PM
There was a fans forum on the finances of the club last week. We've a projected expenditure of €1.2m for this year (€500k on player wages) and we're looking at a €150,000 shortfall in meeting this expenditure. The increase in admission prices is aimed at making up this shortfall.


...and the rest of players have to take 30% pay cut so the mst be in serious trouble if the club still needs to increase prices

Where is your source for this? :rolleyes:

Comments like it "could be a long season ahead" show you obviously don't know what you are talking about..

Dodge
21/05/2009, 10:33 PM
Comments like it "could be a long season ahead" show you obviously don't know what you are talking about..

Still 24 games to go in fairness...

SMorgan
22/05/2009, 5:57 AM
There is an attempt to draw a parallel between what Dundalk are doing now and the situation Galway were in last season. There is no parallel. First off, Dundalk aren't within an asses roar of breaching the 65% wage cap with players wages only forming just less than 50% of the club income. Therefore, if the club do need to reduce costs it will be done during the transfer window in July and not by asking players to take pay cuts. There is absolutely no pressure from the FAI in relation to the club's finances.

The owner of Dundalk wants to go the season and like last season, at least break-even. How many other clubs will do that?

Claret Murph
22/05/2009, 6:07 AM
The owner of Dundalk wants to go the season and like last season, at least break-even. How many other clubs will do that?

I would say not many clubs will break even and in fact you could be the only one .

Sorry about all the back chat from the Galway crew I find it all very childish you would think they would be able to come up with something different by now .
Bye the way have you seen the price of petrol these days in Dundalk , how is Maxie anyway :D:D:D

SMorgan
22/05/2009, 6:16 AM
He looks fine, thanks for asking. How is Honest Nick? Been back to the BC Hilton?

Mayo Red
22/05/2009, 7:50 AM
Is this in order to pay Sean Connors fines???;)

Black and White
22/05/2009, 7:58 AM
Was part of our downfall last year. E20 entry, and an extra E5 for those going to the New Stand. The extra E5 was quickly abolished (lasted about 4/5 home games at max if even that).

Rumour going around is George O'Callaghan has left to join a team in Greece and the rest of players have to take 30% pay cut so the mst be in serious trouble if the club still needs to increase prices

Where the hell did you get your sources from? Get some clear facts before you go posting this kind of crap. You just completly made up the 30% pay cut, fans would have been informed of this at the finance meeting last week so where did you get this from? As regards to George, he went to Greece last week and he is only on a contract with us til July so yeah he can go if he wants but there is no official confirmation so until then...

gufct
22/05/2009, 8:28 AM
Increasing prices in the current economic crisis is crazy and will affect Dundalks Gates. When GUFC did this we lost almost half our season ticket holders the following season and our crowds dropped by a third at least.

Dodge
22/05/2009, 8:45 AM
Increasing prices in the current economic crisis is crazy and will affect Dundalks Gates. When GUFC did this we lost almost half our season ticket holders the following season and our crowds dropped by a third at least.

In fairness you upped tickets to €20 and €25, they're upping them to €15 and €20

Obviously the games v the clubs mentioned have a much higher security cost so if Dundalk feel they need to do this, then so be it.

micls
22/05/2009, 9:50 AM
In fairness you upped tickets to €20 and €25, they're upping them to €15 and €20

Obviously the games v the clubs mentioned have a much higher security cost so if Dundalk feel they need to do this, then so be it.

I still think 20euro is too much for any LOI game.

I think increasing to 15 across the board would have been better than having some games at 20

Dodge
22/05/2009, 9:59 AM
But they were already charging €17/18 for the stand weren't they?

As above Dundalk have done OK off the field the last few years so I'd be willing to give them the benefit of doubt on this. They feel it won't unduly affect income

micls
22/05/2009, 10:00 AM
But they were already charging €17/18 for the stand weren't they?

As above Dundalk have done OK off the field the last few years so I'd be willing to give them the benefit of doubt on this. They feel it won't unduly affect income

No, 15 afaik

eamo1
22/05/2009, 10:00 AM
Are Dundalk the only club to divide games into Category A and B etc.Thats what they do in most other leagues around.Which clubs are in the A category?I assume Bohs,Derry,Shams,are Drogs in that too?

pete
22/05/2009, 10:09 AM
I still think 20euro is too much for any LOI game.

+1.

Dundalk attendance must be double last season which makes the increase all the more surprising. First idea from LOI clubs is to increase prices & not reduce costs. In a recession only monopolies can get away with price increases.

Dodge
22/05/2009, 10:46 AM
+1.

Dundalk attendance must be double last season which makes the increase all the more surprising. First idea from LOI clubs is to increase prices & not reduce costs. In a recession only monopolies can get away with price increases.

I'd imagine Dundalk have (non wage) costs down to bare minimum. Very little money wasted at any LOI club in my experience

pineapple stu
22/05/2009, 10:47 AM
Very little money wasted at any LOI club in my experience
Sure have you not seen the amount Bohs are spending on their youth teams?!

seand
22/05/2009, 10:52 AM
Dundalk maintained ticket prices at First Division levels on promotion, wrongly imo. Bad PR to do it now, but only bringing prices in to line with other provincial clubs.

Oh and if anyone wants the "source" for the Georgie Goes to Greece rumours here is the exact quote from the Dundalk messageboard that is the source of the rumour

" he text my dad sayin gud look mate he gone 2 greece play in athens " (speaking of georgie)

As good as Gospel then, I think you'll agree

shep
22/05/2009, 11:20 AM
There is something in the rumour re George i am told,nothing definate agreed though

Ezeikial
22/05/2009, 11:22 AM
But they were already charging €17/18 for the stand weren't they?

As above Dundalk have done OK off the field the last few years so I'd be willing to give them the benefit of doubt on this. They feel it won't unduly affect income

The Adult Stand price was €15, now €17 for Category B amd €20 for Category A matches

Adult Ground tickets were €10 now increased to €12 and €15 respectively.

Children tickets remain unchanged at €5 all matches for ground or stand.

Category A matches are home matches against Shamrock Rovers, Drogheda, Bohemians, Derry City and Cork City.

Prices are still below average - Last week in Drogheda I paid €30 for Adult and Child stand seats; even with the new pricing I will pay €22 (€17 + €5) or €25 (€20 + €5) depending on the fixture into Oriel.

Gerry Matthews and the board at Dundalk have done a superb job in relation to the clubs finances and infrastructure in the last 4 years at the helm. They are an intelligent and grounded group of people, and the club is in very safe hands.

pete
22/05/2009, 11:36 AM
Would nearly all games be category A for Dundalk?

Sidefx
22/05/2009, 11:46 AM
LOL at the righteous indignation sprouting from some of the Dundalk fans on here who aren't shy when it comes to engaging in disparaging comments about other clubs :):p:)

CarrickFan
22/05/2009, 11:50 AM
When you employ a manager with limited ability who has to bring his high paid mercenaries to every club he manages financial troubles tend to follow.

Red&White Rover
22/05/2009, 11:56 AM
Oh dear. Start of some more troubles I would say...

Conroy
22/05/2009, 12:19 PM
Dundalk are 49% of the salary cap, so Suggesting that SC is the cause of Dundalk increasing ticket prices is plain stupid

CarrickFan
22/05/2009, 12:34 PM
Fair point Conroy..cant blame him for that...it's tough on him when the League,the refs,the FAI,Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny etc are ALL against him!!!....He IS the cause of ye,despite an expensive and experienced squad,losing 6 league games already and being knocked out of the League cup.

passerrby
22/05/2009, 12:42 PM
There was a fans forum on the finances of the club last week. We've a projected expenditure of €1.2m for this year (€500k on player wages) ..

how does that compare to other premier clubs in relation to expenditure and players wages is it the highest

John83
22/05/2009, 12:44 PM
However, for category A matches where there are significant increases in match night costs we are bringing the prices in line with the League average which is €15 into the ground and €20 into the stand.
What an interesting use of the word average.

Or maybe prices have increased across the board since I last attended a game.

Dodge
22/05/2009, 12:45 PM
What an interesting use of the word average.

Or maybe prices have increased across the board since I last attended a game.

In fairness I haven't paid less than 15 in anywhere this year. In fact I'm fairly sure I've paid €15 in everywhere this year

John83
22/05/2009, 12:48 PM
In fairness I haven't paid less than 15 in anywhere this year. In fact I'm fairly sure I've paid €15 in everywhere this year
Which would make €15 the mode. I really doubt €20 is the mean.

srfc1928
22/05/2009, 1:03 PM
Its bad timing, they should have increased it at the start of the season.
Theyre really going against the grain of the economy at the moment,
everything is being reduced not incresed and when people hear the word increase they switch off.
this obviously doesnt apply to the Dundalk fans that go every week but more so to the occasional supporter.
its hard enough attracting these people to as many games as possible without putting up admission prices.

John83
22/05/2009, 1:05 PM
Its bad timing, they should have increased it at the start of the season.
That would have required that they have budgeting skills above and beyond those of your average cucumber, which are decidedly rare in the league.

dong
22/05/2009, 1:08 PM
Can anybody explain what is meant by Category A, B etc and how Dundalk decide which clubs belong in which category?
Seems a valid thing for English premiier league games, but a tad ridiculous for LoI games IMO.

shep
22/05/2009, 1:09 PM
Fair point Conroy..cant blame him for that...it's tough on him when the League,the refs,the FAI,Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny etc are ALL against him!!!....He IS the cause of ye,despite an expensive and experienced squad,losing 6 league games already and being knocked out of the League cup.

Still bitter about the whipping earlier in the year??

dong
22/05/2009, 1:10 PM
Still bitter about the whipping earlier in the year??
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Dunny
22/05/2009, 1:50 PM
Are Dundalk the only club to divide games into Category A and B etc.Thats what they do in most other leagues around.Which clubs are in the A category?I assume Bohs,Derry,Shams,are Drogs in that too?

Bohs do it.

tiktok
22/05/2009, 1:53 PM
Bohs do it.

...bees do it, even educated fleas do it.

In fairness, if Bohs do it, it must be the way forward, they have no financial issues.

CarrickFan
22/05/2009, 2:11 PM
Not bitter at all Shep...beaten fair and square on the night..we were poor...have nothing against Dundalk..been to Oriel park many times other then when Rovers were playing as have family up that way..fine club...you'll find out for yourselves what a spoofer your manager is!!!!...just hope your not back in the First Division before you find out!!!!:)

gufct
22/05/2009, 3:05 PM
Which would make €15 the mode. I really doubt €20 is the mean.

We charge €15 Adults €10 students OAPS €5 Under 16 €30 for Family 2 adults & 2 U16's .

The only categorising of Matches is the security Level by the FAI Ive heard of no other Club ramping up prices for well supported Teams. Bohs a s far as I know charge €20 for the Jodi but we havent been there yet this season.

Ezeikial
22/05/2009, 3:24 PM
Ive heard of no other Club ramping up prices for well supported Teams. Bohs a s far as I know charge €20 for the Jodi but we havent been there yet this season.

GUFCT - if you read the posts above you will learn that Bohemians have 2 categories of matches with varying pricing.
http://www.bohemians.ie/stadium/admission/66-dalymount-park-admission-prices-a-policies.html
The fact that Bohs have this policy might in itself be a valid reason to question the finanical rectitude involved.

Ramping prices up for well supported teams, or keeping prices down for the less interesting ones?

I imagine that this topic is only of acedemic interest to Galway fans anyway, except for the ten or so that were in attendance to support the Tribesmen in Oriel Park last week!

gufc2000
22/05/2009, 3:37 PM
Would you ever cop on. That rumour came from a few young fellas saying they got a txt! Don't know were yo are getting the pay cut stuff from either. The club are adressing the issue of the shortfall now instead of leaving it to get worse.


What a load of nonsense!


There was a fans forum on the finances of the club last week. We've a projected expenditure of €1.2m for this year (€500k on player wages) and we're looking at a €150,000 shortfall in meeting this expenditure. The increase in admission prices is aimed at making up this shortfall.



Where is your source for this? :rolleyes:

Comments like it "could be a long season ahead" show you obviously don't know what you are talking about..

There is still 24 games left! Long enough, no?


Where the hell did you get your sources from? Get some clear facts before you go posting this kind of crap. You just completly made up the 30% pay cut, fans would have been informed of this at the finance meeting last week so where did you get this from? As regards to George, he went to Greece last week and he is only on a contract with us til July so yeah he can go if he wants but there is no official confirmation so until then...

If ye bothered to read what I say ye will see that I said rumour, which means its not a fact. I never said it was fact