Transfer rumours - Summer 2009

[SunderlandBohs]

Everton are going to step up their interest in Reading pair Kevin Doyle and Stephen Hunt after Royals boss Brendan Rodgers confirmed he is ready to cash in on the striker and midfielder. (The Sun)

[tippex]

Stephen Kelly has signed a 3 year deal with Fulham.
Good move for him.

[irishfan86]

Stephen Kelly has signed a 3 year deal with Fulham.
Good move for him.

Next year we're going to have 4 right backs in the Prem:

O'Shea- United
Foley- Wolves
Kelly- Fulham
Carr- Brum

Possibly McShane as well.

[irishultra]

thats good, i have high hopes for kelly, hodgson could be the makings of him.

*i know i said this like the other day already*

[tetsujin1979]

Great news, for Kelly, and for Ireland.
Fulham play good football, and will be in Europe next season

[drummerboy]

Kelly will have a battle to get in there, as the present right full, name escapes me, had a great season.

[Stuttgart88]

Was it Pansil, the Ghanain?

[zackmorris]

Not a transfer but James Cronsberry has signed a new deal with 'boro. He
will hopefully get a chance as many players may be leaving there. Appears to be very highly rated:

http://www.mfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,1~1686379,00.html

Also, does anyone have a list or an idea of what irish youngsters were released this summer?

I know of Craig Mahon, Shane O'Connor, David Hutton, Cian Houghton. Diarmuid o Carroll, Neil McArdle, Conor McCormack, Michael Collins, Billy Clarke and Josh O'Keefe burt i'm sure there are many more!!

[irishfan86]

eleven-a-side article saying that Doyle doesn't fancy a move to Wolves, who knows how true that is. Mentions talk of Everton paying 10 million for Hunt and himself.

[SunderlandBohs]

Conor Hourihane to Ispwich
http://www.tribalfootball.com/ipswich-boss-keane-moves-sunderland-kid-conor-hourihane-251507

[RedHot]

Not a transfer but James Cronsberry has signed a new deal with 'boro. He
will hopefully get a chance as many players may be leaving there. Appears to be very highly rated:

http://www.mfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,1~1686379,00.html

Also, does anyone have a list or an idea of what irish youngsters were released this summer?

I know of Craig Mahon, Shane O'Connor, David Hutton, Cian Houghton. Diarmuid o Carroll, Neil McArdle, Conor McCormack, Michael Collins, Billy Clarke and Josh O'Keefe burt i'm sure there are many more!!

I don't know where all this talk of Conor McCormack being released is coming from.

http://www.argus.ie/sport/soccer/conors-contract-extended-1777381.html

[zackmorris]

Sorry about that, it said that he was released due to financial problems at
Triestina in the the Evening Herald about a month or so ago. That is really good news as I think that he has a lot of potential and it is good that he has taken a chance on a continental league.

[The Fly]

The 'next Gasgoigne' according to Jol.

Maybe that puts his labelling of Terry Dixon as the 'next Rooney' into some perspective.
(Unfortunately, we may never find out) :(

[SunderlandBohs]

Sunderland are close to securing Manchester City defender Richard Dunne for £5m.
Full story: Daily Mirror (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/06/19/bruce-plots-city-raid-for-dunne-115875-21453015/)

[tetsujin1979]

Rumours on a scottish message board that James McCarthy is at Lennoxtown for a medical

[RedHot]

Sorry about that, it said that he was released due to financial problems at
Triestina in the the Evening Herald about a month or so ago. That is really good news as I think that he has a lot of potential and it is good that he has taken a chance on a continental league.

Yes, it is indeed good news. Hopefully it shows other technically good young players that they have more options then simply dropping down the English league if they don't make it at the highest level

[SunderlandBohs]

Back of the Evening Hearld says Stephen Hunt can leave Reading for £5m.

[dr_peepee]

I'd be surprised if they got £5m for him... I think that's the contracted buy out limit.

[Wexford Delboy]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_5389251,00.html
more on hunt

[tetsujin1979]

Mowbay interested in bringing Sean St Ledger to Celtic: http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/2009/06/21/celtic-close-in-on-hibs-hitkid-steven-fletcher-as-new-boss-mowbray-begins-strengthening-his-side-78057-21459009/

[Manc Irish Wolf]

Various rumours circulating on Wolves messageboards (from relatively reliable posters) that Kevin Doyle was seen at the Wolves training ground on Friday for talks with Mick and that we have agreed to pay the £6.5 million buy out clause necessary to secure him. Seem to get things wrapped up relatively quickly these days, so wouldn't be surprised to see something happen early next week if it is going to happen.

However, have also read on a Reading board that 2 Premiership Clubs have met the price (Ourselves and Everton/Sunderland?) - although Everton have been linked with Owen in today's papers so theit attention may be shifting. Hope so, as would love to see him down the Wolves.

[theworm2345]

Various rumours circulating on Wolves messageboards (from relatively reliable posters) that Kevin Doyle was seen at the Wolves training ground on Friday for talks with Mick and that we have agreed to pay the £6.5 million buy out clause necessary to secure him. Seem to get things wrapped up relatively quickly these days, so wouldn't be surprised to see something happen early next week if it is going to happen.

As an Ireland fan I know its a good move but as a Wolves fan I'd hope Mick could bring in better quality than Doyle

[Wexford Delboy]

for a club going up doyle is pretty good quality i fairness

[theworm2345]

for a club going up doyle is pretty good quality i fairness
To be honest I'd prefer Iwelumo and Ebanks-Blake to Doyle and either of them

[superfrank]

Things is though, Doyle has Premiership experience (and goals).

[theworm2345]

Things is though, Doyle has Premiership experience (and goals).
There are other strikers available though who have EPL experience (and goals) who I believe are better than Doyle. Realistically, I was hoping to get Marc Antoine-Fortune if any striker though to be honest I don't think scoring goals will be much of a problem next year, its the defense I'm worried about. Michael Owen, Lomana LuaLua, Henri Camara, or Obafemi Martins would be nice as well.

[youngirish]

To be honest I'd prefer Iwelumo and Ebanks-Blake to Doyle and either of them

Wake up worm and smell the cornflakes - Doyle is a far better player than Iwelumo who is Championship quality at best.

As for Ebanks-Blake, untested in the Premiership and could easily find it a step too far for him next season. Doyle was a better player in the Championship if not last year then he definitely looked much better during his first year at Reading.

Anyway point is if you think Iwelumo is a better player than Doyle then I'm starting to understand why you rate David Connolly so highly.

[theworm2345]

Anyway point is if you think Iwelumo is a better player than Doyle then I'm starting to understand why you rate David Connolly so highly.
Why don't you tell me where I said that he was a better player :rolleyes: Him and Ebanks-Blake do seem to have an understanding together

By the way its quite clear that the same man who apparently rates Doyle an EPL striker also rates Iwelumo and David Connolly quite highly so if you're implying my judgement is as good as his I'll take your compliment.

[SunderlandBohs]

Jason Byrne linked with £250,000 move to Leeds. (Football365)

[Wexford Delboy]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5395443,00.html
doyle to wolves

[passinginterest]

Jason Byrne linked with £250,000 move to Leeds. (Football365)

Is there a link for that? I can't find it on 365.

[SunderlandBohs]

Is there a link for that? I can't find it on 365.
Try the rumour section or teamTALK.

[livehead1]

There are other strikers available though who have EPL experience (and goals) who I believe are better than Doyle. Realistically, I was hoping to get Marc Antoine-Fortune if any striker though to be honest I don't think scoring goals will be much of a problem next year, its the defense I'm worried about. Michael Owen, Lomana LuaLua, Henri Camara, or Obafemi Martins would be nice as well.

You really are clueless!! You state that you were looking for better options than Doyle and then right at the top of your list is Antoine-Fortune who has about 4 premierships goals and very little experience at that level. You then go on to include Owen, LuaLua who has eventually flopped at every premiership club he has been at, and Camara who couldn't get a game at Wigan.

[SunderlandBohs]

Is there a link for that? I can't find it on 365.
Just been on 365 and TEAMtalk. Nothing on it now! It was in the Mirror that Byrne has been linked with a few clubs over seas but no names given.

[irishultra]

that wolves team is way beneath Kevin doyle. doyle is actually a player with proper quality, who the hell are the other two players that worm mentioned?:confused:

have they ever actually done anything?

[jbyrne]

that wolves team is way beneath Kevin doyle. doyle is actually a player with proper quality, who the hell are the other two players that worm mentioned?:confused:

have they ever actually done anything?

well, one of them did this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoOgNbYFNM4&feature=related

[theworm2345]

OK you can all just wait and see what Doyle does this year if he goes to Wolves. Aside from when playing for Ireland, Doyle tends to only score poachers goals or headers from 4 yards out which of course are important but is not very possible when you don't have a good midfield and isn't even needed when you have Ebanks-Blake, someone who scored more than Doyle last year, some poachers, some not, to finish off these chances. Aside from Michael Kightly, I don't know if any of Wolves midfielders are EPL quality and Doyle is good in the air but then again so is Iwelumo...both of these facts most of you are all probably blissfully unaware of because the majority of you probably haven't watched a Wolves game since 03/04. Doyle also seems to go AWOL for weeks or months at a time, he even got benched as Reading were pushing for promotion this year. I have watched Fortune and LuaLua play in England and outside of England (imagine that :rolleyes:) and they too are able to do more than score poachers goals. Theres no question about Martins or Owen and if any of you dispute that they would be better additions than Doyle it might be time for a reality check. If you were asking me to build a team from scratch I might choose Doyle over Fortune or LuaLua but not on this Wolves team.

[jbyrne]

Doyle also seems to go AWOL for weeks or months at a time, he even got benched as Reading were pushing for promotion this year.

got benched as played through injury to help out reading and to be involved in Italy game. was scoring for fun before picking up niggles as the season went on

[theworm2345]

got benched as played through injury to help out reading and to be involved in Italy game. was scoring for fun before picking up niggles as the season went on

3 goals from December on this year and 2 from December on the year before, and all were from 6 yards or less (though one was not just a freebie and actually a nice header). If he was not helping the team he should've rested till he was fit, again this is something that Wolves cannot afford if they are going to stay up. However I am doing my best to trust Mick's judgement.

Anyway I recently heard a Duff to Burnley rumor.

[youngirish]

OK you can all just wait and see what Doyle does this year if he goes to Wolves. Aside from when playing for Ireland, Doyle tends to only score poachers goals or headers from 4 yards out which of course are important but is not very possible when you don't have a good midfield and isn't even needed when you have Ebanks-Blake, someone who scored more than Doyle last year, some poachers, some not, to finish off these chances. Aside from Michael Kightly, I don't know if any of Wolves midfielders are EPL quality and Doyle is good in the air but then again so is Iwelumo...both of these facts most of you are all probably blissfully unaware of because the majority of you probably haven't watched a Wolves game since 03/04. Doyle also seems to go AWOL for weeks or months at a time, he even got benched as Reading were pushing for promotion this year. I have watched Fortune and LuaLua play in England and outside of England (imagine that :rolleyes:) and they too are able to do more than score poachers goals. Theres no question about Martins or Owen and if any of you dispute that they would be better additions than Doyle it might be time for a reality check. If you were asking me to build a team from scratch I might choose Doyle over Fortune or LuaLua but not on this Wolves team.

Worm you know little about Doyle if you think he can only score goals from 4 yards out that are handed to him on a plate. I've seen him score 25 yard screamers, bicycle kicks from the edge of the box, goals where he's run from the halfway line to beat the last defender to the ball and slot it in from 18 yards out and tons of other types of goal too numerous to recap. He also creates goals for other players, is very skillful, works very hard for the team, all qualities you brush aside without even a mention. If Doyle had played for Wolves last season and had the service that Ebanks Blake was receiving from Kightly he'd have scored far more goals imo.

Iwelumo is a very average Championship level player, LuaLua is a poor striker by any account, Fortune done little to nothing in the Premiership last season. To suggest any of these players are nearly as good as one of our most talented international players is ludicrous and shows that while indeed you might watch Wolves occasionally you certainly aren't watching much football of any other kind to enable you to make legitimate comparisons between players.

P.S. Doesn't Michael Owen only score goals from 4 yards out?

[SkStu]

worm, i got to agree with the rest of the posters, you are way off on this one.

[theworm2345]

Worm you know little about Doyle if you think he can only score goals from 4 yards out that are handed to him on a plate. I've seen him score 25 yard screamers, bicycle kicks from the edge of the box, goals where he's run from the halfway line to beat the last defender to the ball and slot it in from 18 yards out and tons of other types of goal too numerous to recap. He also creates goals for other players, is very skillful, works very hard for the team, all qualities you brush aside without even a mention. If Doyle had played for Wolves last season and had the service that Ebanks Blake was receiving from Kightly he'd have scored far more goals imo.

Iwelumo is a very average Championship level player, LuaLua is a poor striker by any account, Fortune done little to nothing in the Premiership last season. To suggest any of these players are nearly as good as one of our most talented international players is ludicrous and shows that while indeed you might watch Wolves occasionally you certainly aren't watching much football of any other kind to enable you to make legitimate comparisons between players.

P.S. Doesn't Michael Owen only score goals from 4 yards out?

I have 39 of the 56 goals Doyle has scored for Reading on video on my Desktop (I did say he has scored some decent ones for Ireland if you weren't reading), unless the remaining 17 are all these wonder goals you describe I don't see how I could be wrong, I'll happily upload the videos if you don't believe me. The majority of the goals I missed are from Tuesday matches because those used to be unfindable.

Again, please tell me where I said they were as good players as Doyle is, you are the second person to suggest I said that and still have not shown where I did. I simply said I do no want him at Wolves because I believe the money could be going to a player who could shore up the midfield or defense. Hell I never even said I wanted Fortune, LuaLua, Owen, or Martins (who everyone seems to have forgotten I mentioned), I just said if Wolves were going to get a striker I'd prefer them to Doyle. I also said this would be good move for Ireland. I swear people here only read half of what is written sometimes.

I've just gone back and watched all of those 39 goals. There were a few penalties (all of which were while he played in the EPL), two from outside the box (one of which the keeper probably should've gotten), about 28 tap-ins or headers from 6 yards, and the one scissors kick. The funny thing is in '05-'06 he does actually appear to be the striker I am describing who is actually capable of scoring more than tap-ins or penalties but since then he does not with 3 of his 6 goals actually requiring more than one touch (including that scissors kick).

[DmanDmythDledge]

Again, please tell me where I said they were as good players as Doyle is, you are the second person to suggest I said that and still have not shown where I did.

Here:


To be honest I'd prefer Iwelumo and Ebanks-Blake to Doyle and either of them

and here:


There are other strikers available though who have EPL experience (and goals) who I believe are better than Doyle. Realistically, I was hoping to get Marc Antoine-Fortune if any striker though to be honest I don't think scoring goals will be much of a problem next year, its the defense I'm worried about. Michael Owen, Lomana LuaLua, Henri Camara, or Obafemi Martins would be nice as well.
You're not actually saying that you would prefer players who you think are worse than Doyle?


I simply said I do no want him at Wolves because I believe the money could be going to a player who could shore up the midfield or defense.You've said that nowhere. Stop lying. Just admit what you said (it's black and white FFS) and try and argue your point rather than making stuff up.


Hell I never even said I wanted Fortune, LuaLua, Owen, or Martins (who everyone seems to have forgotten I mentioned), I just said if Wolves were going to get a striker I'd prefer them to Doyle.You do realise that's what people are actually pulling you up on?


I also said this would be good move for Ireland. I swear people here only read half of what is written sometimes.Well you have not said that in thread.

People have read exactly what you've written. Nobody can guess what are apparantly when in fact it's just a crap attempt at a back track.


3 goals from December on this year and 2 from December on the year before
So goals before December don't count?

His second season with Reading he was played out of position on the right wing. Of course you know that but you'd prefer to ignore that fact. It's also common knowledge that he struggled with injuries in the second half of the season and when he recovered Coppell did not want to change his team.


and all were from 6 yards or less (though one was not just a freebie and actually a nice header).You do realise that what strikers generally do?

And how do you think he got in those positions? There's loads more aspects to goalscoring than actually finishing when you get the ball. Off the ball movement and positioning, amongst other things, are vital. There's very few strikers with better movement in the Premiership than Doyle.

[theworm2345]

You're not actually saying that you would prefer players who you think are worse than Doyle?
Being a good player does not mean you fit well in to a system, Iwelumo and Ebanks-Blake worked well together (I also have all of Wolves' goals from this year if you want proof)


You've said that nowhere. Stop lying. Just admit what you said (it's black and white FFS) and try and argue your point rather than making stuff up.

There are other strikers available though who have EPL experience (and goals) who I believe are better than Doyle. Realistically, I was hoping to get Marc Antoine-Fortune if any striker though to be honest I don't think scoring goals will be much of a problem next year, its the defense I'm worried about. Michael Owen, Lomana LuaLua, Henri Camara, or Obafemi Martins would be nice as well.



You do realise that's what people are actually pulling you up on?
I haven't seen anyone argue that Doyle is better than Martins


Well you have not said that in thread.


As an Ireland fan I know its a good move but as a Wolves fan I'd hope Mick could bring in better quality than Doyle


People have read exactly what you've written. Nobody can guess what are apparantly when in fact it's just a crap attempt at a back track.




So goals before December don't count?

They count, and the same thing happened Iwelumo, Wolves will need people who can score consistently and Ebanks-Blake can do that with the help of Iwelumo, Doyle is unnecessary.




His second season with Reading he was played out of position on the right wing. Of course you know that but you'd prefer to ignore that fact. It's also common knowledge that he struggled with injuries in the second half of the season and when he recovered Coppell did not want to change his team.

His second season was 06/07 and his most successful season. I've already addressed the injury thing I guess you overlooked it.



You do realise that what strikers generally do?

And how do you think he got in those positions? There's loads more aspects to goalscoring than actually finishing when you get the ball. Off the ball movement and positioning, amongst other things, are vital.

Many of the goals were on corner kicks or free kicks and so of course he was already in those positions, I suppose I will just say it again because apparently they don't teach reading comprehension over there and maybe it will sink in this time. Doyle might be a better striker than the others but I don't think he will be enough of a positive asset to be worth the 5.6 million or whatever it is. I also said that tap-ins are important but I don't expect there to be as many against Premier League defenses or with Wolves shoddy midfield.


Very Late Edit: I just heard a Jason Scotland to Burnley rumor. I like Scotty and he is a good striker (besides, it seems, when playing for T&T :() and I think he will do well at Burnley if he signs. However, I wouldn't want Wolves to sign him, he's too alike to Ebanks-Blake and at 10 million quid he would not be worth it. Do you see the connection?

[SunderlandBohs]

However, I wouldn't want Wolves to sign him, he's too alike to Ebanks-Blake and at 10 million quid he would not be worth it. Do you see the connection?
Jason Scotland is valued at £2m.

More on Doyle
Wolves are ready to break their club's transfer record with a £6.5m move for Reading forward Kevin Doyle
Full story: Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1194785/Wolverhampton-Wanderers-set-club-record-6-5m-signing-Reading-striker-Kevin-Doyle.html)

The Irish Sun claims 5 clubs want to sign Doyle. Sunderland, West Ham, Wolves, Fulham and Everton. Wolves lead the race but he'd prefer a move Sunderland but won't wait around to see if Bruce will make a move. Sorry no link.

[theworm2345]

Jason Scotland is valued at £2m.

More on Doyle
Wolves are ready to break their club's transfer record with a £6.5m move for Reading forward Kevin Doyle
Full story: Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1194785/Wolverhampton-Wanderers-set-club-record-6-5m-signing-Reading-striker-Kevin-Doyle.html)

The Irish Sun claims 5 clubs want to sign Doyle. Sunderland, West Ham, Wolves, Fulham and Everton. Wolves lead the race but he'd prefer a move Sunderland but won't wait around to see if Bruce will make a move. Sorry no link.
I wish him the best of luck and hope he gets a move to Fulham or Everton. I don't think a move to Sunderland or West Ham would be that great because he is too alike to Kenwyne Jones and Carlton Cole (though a little different from Cole) though I think he'd do better at both of those places compared to Wolves. Also I saw Burnley had a 10m bid for Scotland thats why I wrote that.

From Sunderland site's rumour mill:
Richard Dunne --> Sunderland
Stephen Hunt --> Sunderland
Daryl Murphy --> Ipswich
Paul McShane --> Ipswich
Roy O'Donovan --> Hartlepool
Anthony Stokes --> Hibernian

and finally and interestingly

Lomana Tresor LuaLua --> Sunderland

[SunderlandBohs]

My mistake Worm.

Another Hunt-Doyle rumour

Reading face a double bid from Sunderland for winger Stephen Hunt and striker Kevin Doyle.
Full story: Daily Mirror (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/06/24/bruce-in-hunt-for-royals-115875-21466822/)

If the rumours are true that Darren Bent is also on his way to the SoL, Doyle would only be 3rd choice striker unless Bruce is going to cash in on Jones.

Lua Lua:). Had to laugh at that myself. He's only 28! I thought he'd be well in his 30s.

[tetsujin1979]

Fulham also interested in Doyle, according to the Times: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/0624/1224249415890.html

[Wexford Delboy]

bolton set to make a bid for doyle

[irishultra]

:rolleyes:

His level is much better than that. He has actual quality why go to a team like Bolton?:confused: Come on some proper clubs put a bid in for Doyler.