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Predator
15/04/2009, 4:51 PM
Hi guys, I've been hearing good things about the young Irish centre-half at Everton, Shane Duffy. Looks to be a bright star to keep an eye out for in the future. Have any of you here heard of him?

Here's a Derry Journal report on Duffy and another young Derryman, Patrick McEleney.

http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Duffy-McEleney-hope-to-emulate.5167323.jp


Here's a picture of the man in action:
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/2649_67615218972_619713972_2219589_6323687_n.jpg (http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Duffy-McEleney-hope-to-emulate.5167323.jp)

(http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Duffy-McEleney-hope-to-emulate.5167323.jp)

paul_oshea
15/04/2009, 6:08 PM
is he with ROI?

DmanDmythDledge
15/04/2009, 6:12 PM
is he with ROI?
No, quick google search came up with this.
http://www.irishfa.com/squad-profiles/2274/under-19/shane-duffy-defender/

paul_oshea
15/04/2009, 6:16 PM
surely NI have had games since oct 08? IF so then he may be reconsidering?!

DmanDmythDledge
15/04/2009, 6:18 PM
surely NI have had games since oct 08? IF so then he may be reconsidering?!
Last U19 game was Oct 13 2008.

Paddy Garcia
15/04/2009, 7:10 PM
Good post - if he wants to emulate Gibson then the omens are good for us.

greendeiseboy
15/04/2009, 9:42 PM
this might be of use - conflicting posts regarding who he wants to play with tho'

http://www.toffeetalk.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t8715.html

SkStu
15/04/2009, 9:51 PM
somebody track down his bebo account - and FAST. ;)

The Fly
15/04/2009, 10:10 PM
this might be of use - conflicting posts regarding who he wants to play with tho'

http://www.toffeetalk.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t8715.html

Link doesn't work, well at least for me it doesn't.

I had commented on this before - if you go to Everton's website and look at their various youth squad's player profiles, there are quite a few young players with Irish surnames. (Including from NI) ;)

DmanDmythDledge
15/04/2009, 10:12 PM
this might be of use - conflicting posts regarding who he wants to play with tho'

http://www.toffeetalk.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t8715.html
That post was from some time ago, he has played for NI a good few times since then.

Predator
15/04/2009, 10:27 PM
Most Derry guys would support the Republic as their national team. I'd say that there's a big chance he'd like to play for the Republic and his father's from Donegal as well according to the Letterkenny Post.

http://www.letterkennypost.com/2009/04/13/toffees%E2%80%99-letterkenny-connection/

greendeiseboy
16/04/2009, 12:29 AM
That post was from some time ago, he has played for NI a good few times since then.

Was aware of that but he trained with us around a year ago so theres still a chance that he could declare for us....but i'd say at this stage it's unlikely as he seems to be getting treated well by NI and wants to repay them for this ( i suppose in a similar way to James Mc Carthy and us) ...and thats fair enough and he has to be commended for that...either way the best of luck him in his career

seanfhear
16/04/2009, 9:47 AM
I think that players that have the opportunity to choose should go with the heart but I will say that we will have the fabulous new Landsdowne RD for players to exhibit their fabulous talents and that all that can qualify to play for us are welcome.

Drumcondra 69er
16/04/2009, 10:18 AM
Quoate from the article so you never know. Good luck to him with whatever decision he's happy with.

"Darron Gibson has been a big influence on me because we've seen how far he's come and we all know what he's capable of doing so, hopefully, my career will have the same sort of success that he's been enjoying lately," said Duffy.

elroy
16/04/2009, 4:48 PM
Most Derry guys would support the Republic as their national team. I'd say that there's a big chance he'd like to play for the Republic and his father's from Donegal as well according to the Letterkenny Post.

http://www.letterkennypost.com/2009/04/13/toffees%E2%80%99-letterkenny-connection/

Always amazes me the number of lads from the North at our games and particularly at away games, good to see.

Paddy Garcia
16/04/2009, 8:22 PM
Hi guys, I've been hearing good things about the young Irish centre-half at Everton, Shane Duffy. Looks to be a bright star to keep an eye out for in the future. Have any of you here heard of him?

Here's a Derry Journal report on Duffy and another young Derryman, Patrick McEleney.

http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Duffy-McEleney-hope-to-emulate.5167323.jp


Here's a picture of the man in action:
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/2649_67615218972_619713972_2219589_6323687_n.jpg (http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Duffy-McEleney-hope-to-emulate.5167323.jp)

(http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Duffy-McEleney-hope-to-emulate.5167323.jp)

Patrick Mc Eleney is in our U17 squad for the Poland games.

tetsujin1979
16/04/2009, 8:22 PM
I work with a lad from Derry, he's a season ticket holder at the Brandywell, and he always goes to home games. Wants nothing to do with the Northern Ireland team.

greendeiseboy
16/04/2009, 8:54 PM
I work with a lad from Derry, he's a season ticket holder at the Brandywell, and he always goes to home games. Wants nothing to do with the Northern Ireland team.


Without sounding thick - which one your mate or Mc Eleney / Duffy?

tetsujin1979
16/04/2009, 9:02 PM
sorry, yeah my mate wants nothing to do with the side. Was agreeing with elroy.
Should have included a quote. My bad.

kingdomkerry
16/04/2009, 10:03 PM
Hopefully Duffy will choose Ireland, or imsure he'd live to regret it. Anyone know if he has spoke to the FAI?

irishfan86
16/04/2009, 10:09 PM
Hopefully Duffy will choose Ireland, or imsure he'd live to regret it. Anyone know if he has spoke to the FAI?

He trained with us last year, so I'd assume so...but with the lot in charge now, who knows!:eek:

Predator
17/04/2009, 12:38 PM
He trained with us last year, so I'd assume so...but with the lot in charge now, who knows!:eek:

I watched the Man U reserves versus Everton reserves last night out of interest. United won the game 2-0 and were the better team, but individually, Duffy had a great game. He was unfortunately booked for what replays showed to be a precise tackle on Zoran Tošić and offensively he was on the end of countless free-kicks and corners. Towards the end of the game, commentatory Arthur Albiston even remarked that, had Duffy not been in the defence, Everton could have conceded 4 or 5.

Duffy looks like a real prospect, the Republic should really look into getting him in the frame. Although, as you say, the guys in charge now seem to be trying ridiculously hard to deter people from playing for them. The whole Barry Maguire nonsense is evidence of that. The article in The Independent from last year shows this: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/irish-must-play-green-card-1433824.html

If Duffy was down training last year, it obviously shows that he wants to play for the Republic. I can only assume that the FAI, in keeping with their usual antics, probably didn't get back to him.

Anyway, here's hoping!

DannyInvincible
17/04/2009, 2:57 PM
Was aware of that but he trained with us around a year ago so theres still a chance that he could declare for us....but i'd say at this stage it's unlikely as he seems to be getting treated well by NI and wants to repay them for this

Any specific reason why you think it seems so unlikely he'll declare for the Republic? It's all just speculation until we hear from the player, surely?

He played for the Everton reserves against the Manchester United reserves last night. Everton lost 2-0 though. Short match report here: http://www.evertonfc.com/match/report/0809/man-united-v-everton-reserves.html

greendeiseboy
17/04/2009, 3:12 PM
Any specific reason why you think it seems so unlikely he'll declare for the Republic? It's all just speculation until we hear from the player, surely?

He played for the Everton reserves against the Manchester United reserves last night. Everton lost 2-0 though. Short match report here: http://www.evertonfc.com/match/report/0809/man-united-v-everton-reserves.html

Given the fact that at the moment he is playing underage with The NI underage team and has been for some time and the fact that last year he trained with our under 17 (ROI) team and has since played for the NI I'd say it's likely that he will stay with them - yes my opinion

Also if you read a previous post that had an extract from an Everton blog you'd see a extract from his cousin where he states that he is happy with the NI set up and how he's being treated by them.

The fact remains he is Northern Irish and we shouldn't be that upset if he dosent declare for us - i'd imagine that there are plenty from his background that are happy to declare for NI!!:rolleyes:

DannyInvincible
17/04/2009, 5:02 PM
Given the fact that at the moment he is playing underage with The NI underage team and has been for some time and the fact that last year he trained with our under 17 (ROI) team and has since played for the NI I'd say it's likely that he will stay with them - yes my opinion

Also if you read a previous post that had an extract from an Everton blog you'd see a extract from his cousin where he states that he is happy with the NI set up and how he's being treated by them.

Fair enough, I suppose, but I have a feeling that the reason he is absent from the Republic squad is more down to the management than due to him having rejected any approach or offer from the set-up to play. Maybe there's a lack of interest or an unresponsiveness on the management's part; who knows? If he was so keen to remain loyal to the Northern Ireland set-up, why would he bother training with the Republic?


The fact remains he is Northern Irish and we shouldn't be that upset if he dosent declare for us - i'd imagine that there are plenty from his background that are happy to declare for NI!!:rolleyes:

Well, he isn't just Northern Irish though, is he? The fact is he can be Irish or Northern Irish. His choice. Even if he didn't have an Irish father, he would still have that choice, as a legacy of the Darron Gibson saga, unless something has changed on that front. I'm open to correction.

greendeiseboy
17/04/2009, 6:11 PM
Have to agree with you on that - hopefully he will declare. Let's hope his dad might have some influence that way. But at the end of the day it will be the lad himself who'll decides what's best for him.

Fingers crossed

cestlavie
17/04/2009, 6:35 PM
Hi guys, I've been hearing good things about the young Irish centre-half at Everton, Shane Duffy. Looks to be a bright star to keep an eye out for in the future. Have any of you here heard of him?

Here's a Derry Journal report on Duffy and another young Derryman, Patrick McEleney.

http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Duffy-McEleney-hope-to-emulate.5167323.jp


Here's a picture of the man in action:
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/2649_67615218972_619713972_2219589_6323687_n.jpg (http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Duffy-McEleney-hope-to-emulate.5167323.jp)

(http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Duffy-McEleney-hope-to-emulate.5167323.jp)


Both of those lads are not bad players. Duffys roots come from Letterkenny in Donegal and his family are always sending in articles to the local papers telling everybody how well he is doing but that he is very happy with Northern Ireland. It appears to me that they are really looking to get the Republic of Ireland to come in for him but that if in the end if he is not good enough they appear to want to keep in with the IFA at the same time so that he may end up with a better chance of getting international football. Mind you northern Ireland are doing pretty good at the moment.

Young McEleney's auld boy has been touting his son to every scout in the world since he was 10, he has been using the Foyle Harps club for his own agenda according to many people among the football community in Derry. Many young footballers with excellent ability have been used in the process.

P.s I am all for every young boy born on the island of Ireland being able to choose what country they want to play for!

DannyInvincible
22/04/2009, 12:48 AM
Came across this recent post from Duffy's cousin on Toffee Talk: http://www.toffeetalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8715&st=40&gopid=160734&

Maybe it could be construed as some sort of update or insight.


I don't know exactly what the story is at the minute, although I know Shane is eligible in every way to play for the Republic, holding an Irish passport and especially since his father is from Donegal.

I was just surfing a message board site in Ireland called foot.ie and they've got a thread on Shane. Some posters are claiming that Shane's Northern Irish, even though he has an Irish passport and would, like myself consider himself to be Irish. Given the opportunity, he'd preferably want to represent Ireland at international level, but if that opportunity did not arise, then certainly he'd like to be playing some form of international football.

seanfhear
22/04/2009, 8:34 AM
Came across this recent post from Duffy's cousin on Toffee Talk: http://www.toffeetalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8715&st=40&gopid=160734&

Maybe it could be construed as some sort of update or insight.
The lad should be given every encouragment to play for Ireland at the new Landsdowne road.

paul_oshea
22/04/2009, 9:06 AM
The FAI should be alerted to that note. Seriously, the internet these days should be used in the most efficient way possible, I mean assuming that guy is for real then these things should be kept an eye out on.

kingdomkerry
22/04/2009, 12:09 PM
I got a contact from musicinmouth so im going to contact the fai myself and see what the story is. Would hate to loose a good Irish player.

gustavo
22/04/2009, 12:17 PM
I watched the Man U reserves versus Everton reserves last night out of interest. United won the game 2-0 and were the better team, but individually, Duffy had a great game. He was unfortunately booked for what replays showed to be a precise tackle on Zoran Tošić and offensively he was on the end of countless free-kicks and corners. Towards the end of the game, commentatory Arthur Albiston even remarked that, had Duffy not been in the defence, Everton could have conceded 4 or 5.

Duffy looks like a real prospect, the Republic should really look into getting him in the frame. Although, as you say, the guys in charge now seem to be trying ridiculously hard to deter people from playing for them. The whole Barry Maguire nonsense is evidence of that. The article in The Independent from last year shows this: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/irish-must-play-green-card-1433824.html

If Duffy was down training last year, it obviously shows that he wants to play for the Republic. I can only assume that the FAI, in keeping with their usual antics, probably didn't get back to him.

Anyway, here's hoping!
Was Seamus Coleman playing?

kingdomkerry
22/04/2009, 12:45 PM
I got a contact from musicinmouth so im going to contact the fai myself and see what the story is. Would hate to loose a good Irish player.

Done.

Anyone want to see the e-mail PM me. I'll let the reply be known.

Predator
22/04/2009, 12:48 PM
Was Seamus Coleman playing?

No, he wasn't playing, if I can remember correctly. The team was relatively young. There were quite a few U-18 players playing.

Predator
03/05/2009, 3:39 PM
I just read over on Toffeetalk that Duffy has been called up the Northern Ireland senior 'B' team! This can't be good for his Republic chances :

With regard to the U19 game against Switzerland. I was at it, up at Seaview in Belfast. I was conveniently in the bathroom while they played God Save the Queen, but watched the game. Shane had a brilliant game and was awarded with the Man of the Match after the game. He's been called up to the N.I. 'B' team, which is an incredible feat for a 17 year old. Nigel Worthington holds him in high regard - it's bloody strange that the Republic's management team haven't been monitoring the situation, or at least, they don't seem to be!http://www.toffeetalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8715&pid=163299&st=40&#entry163299

Surely the FAI would pay some heed to a player who is consistently rising through the ranks of both club and international levels!

Here's another link from the Everton website : http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/duffy-and-turner-to-face-off.html

republicofwhite
20/05/2009, 10:35 AM
We can kiss goodbye to this fella...

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5338758,00.html

brianw82
20/05/2009, 11:09 AM
Aye, into the senior NI squad today. Although if he doesn't play.....

paul_oshea
20/05/2009, 11:14 AM
ya if he doesn't play.

he better not play. someone should have a word with him....

livehead1
20/05/2009, 1:54 PM
Jesus, they literally have NO strength in depth whatsoever! Its some national side that has to pick players from clubs such as those that many of them players are with. I almost feel sorry for them and would like them to have Duffy. Italy must have agreed to field a D or E squad or else it could be a cricket scoreline.

Stuttgart88
20/05/2009, 1:58 PM
Hey livehead, good call on Leon Best. Is he getting you tickets?

paul_oshea
20/05/2009, 2:50 PM
tickets for what?

Actually if duffy played in that game because its not a competitive game would he still be tied?!

Stuttgart88
20/05/2009, 2:59 PM
Come on Paul, you know the answer to that. Lazy git!

Geysir, tell the man. And stick the eligibilty rules up as a sticky?

livehead1
20/05/2009, 3:27 PM
Hey livehead, good call on Leon Best. Is he getting you tickets?

Yeh, I musta told ya he would get there about 5 years ago! When I spoke to him 4 weeks ago he said that he had not even had a word from Trappatoni or anyone else in the Ireland camp!

EalingGreen
20/05/2009, 4:08 PM
Jesus, they literally have NO strength in depth whatsoever! Its some national side that has to pick players from clubs such as those that many of them players are with. I almost feel sorry for them and would like them to have Duffy. Italy must have agreed to field a D or E squad or else it could be a cricket scoreline.
Granted we have a small squad at the best of times, but circumstances are dictating that hardly any of our senior or back-up players are available this time round.

Basically this game was arranged late, and at the behest of the Italians. But because a number of our players are involved in Play-Offs etc until the end of May, and all players need to report back to their clubs by July, nearly everyone had arranged their Summer holiday for early June, or were otherwise unavailable. (Chris Brunt, for example, is getting married that day, Grant McCann was on a Coaching course and a few more are injured).

As it happens, there are a number of decent enough players (Capaldi, Sproule, Duff, Carroll etc) who might have been called up to the squad, but for whatever reason, Worthington doesn't seem too keen on them, and since they are not part of his long-term plans, then he clearly prefers to look past them to the youngsters.

Consequently, this "senior" team is actually just an extension of recent "B" selections, which themselves were just an extension of the U-21 team etc.

I guess Worthy's reasoning is that if we only unearth one "nugget" from the kids, or "fast-track" another one 12 months sooner than otherwise, or persuade even one waverer to stick with us, rather than "defect" to you-know-who, then maybe it will be worthwhile enough.

Then again, if we get humped 6 or 8 goals (a possibility :(), then it could set us back further. No doubt Worthy is well aware of that, and if I had to guess, I'd say he'd have wanted to cancel it.

However, he can't do that, since the IFA needs the appearance fee, the game comes with a promise from Italy of a return in Belfast, plus the proceeds are now going to the Italian Earthquake fund, so if we pulled out now it would be a public relations disaster.

But you're right, our squad is very thin...

Stuttgart88
20/05/2009, 4:34 PM
Risky strategy though I suspect Italy will do something similar.

We fielded some very strange players in the US under Stan. Not sure we learnt anything from it. I suppose any chance to look at your players & work with them up close gives you a good idea of their ability and character, and pitching them against better players to see how they perform can be useful.

EalingGreen
20/05/2009, 5:36 PM
Risky strategy though I suspect Italy will do something similar.

Certainly is. Not sure what way Italy will play it. On the one hand, maybe they'll use it to try out some of their fringe players, maybe even a few locally-based ones (to boost the crowd etc).

Then again, they presumably wanted NI because they're drawn with you in the WCQ's, plus straight after our game in Pisa, they're heading out to S.Africa for a mini-tournament, which is obviously arranged on the basis that they'll qualify for 2010(!).
In which case, this friendly might be an integral, if minor, part of their overall plan?



We fielded some very strange players in the US under Stan. Not sure we learnt anything from it. I suppose any chance to look at your players & work with them up close gives you a good idea of their ability and character, and pitching them against better players to see how they perform can be useful.
Curiously enough, Sanchez "inherited" a two match US Tour he hadn't wanted in the Summer of 2006. We had a really makeshift squad out for that one, which meant two (current regular) players made their full debut earlier than they would otherwise have done: Sammy Clingan and (ahem) Kyle Lafferty.
For "fast-tracking" those two alone, the Tour was probably worth it.
As against that, we only lost 1-0 against (weakened) Romania and Colombia. A 6 or 7 goal drubbing by Italy "B" next month in Pisa could just as easily knock the present youngsters back the other way. :(

bwagner
20/05/2009, 6:12 PM
i bought a northern ireland jersey last week :O) i will support both now

eirebhoy
20/05/2009, 6:15 PM
As it happens, there are a number of decent enough players (Capaldi, Sproule, Duff, Carroll etc) who might have been called up to the squad, but for whatever reason, Worthington doesn't seem too keen on them, and since they are not part of his long-term plans, then he clearly prefers to look past them to the youngsters.

Wonder why McCourt didn't get a callup. He's in a different league to McGinn for one.

EalingGreen
20/05/2009, 6:20 PM
Wonder why McCourt didn't get a callup. He's in a different league to McGinn for one.
Must be something to do with injury or unavailability*, since NW seems to rate him quite highly and he'd certainly be worth a place.

* - Unless, of course, McCourt himself couldn't be arsed (not that I've any reason for suspecting so)

Wangball
20/05/2009, 8:15 PM
Wonder why McCourt didn't get a callup. He's in a different league to McGinn for one.

In the long term McGinn will be better than McCourt, plus as EG said, McCourt speculated McCourt is always unfit/injured

Back on topic, as much as I'd like to see Duffy chose us, I'm not all that upset that he's in the NI squad...they could probably use him more and from the player's perspective of he had declared for us he would of been nowhere near our squad to play Italy in Bari nor the return leg and now he looks like he's in line for a senior cap against Italy with t'other lot!