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Noelys Guitar
28/03/2009, 3:46 PM
One Polish fan seriously hurt according to Five live. One pub wrecked. This is all happening before game has taken place.
a case of "they took err jerrrbs"
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/39/84794196_1ffc979d41.jpg
or
http://www.1-900-870-6235.com/PeaceMap/ReligiousWarSignGif.gif
celticV3
28/03/2009, 4:08 PM
This was always going to happen. So much hype and hate being boiled up before this game that it was inevitable
celticV3
28/03/2009, 4:19 PM
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa162/glentoran-4-ever/DSC01167.jpg
a case of "they took err jerrrbs"
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/39/84794196_1ffc979d41.jpg
or
http://www.1-900-870-6235.com/PeaceMap/ReligiousWarSignGif.gif
Rubbish. It was the polish who started this trouble.
It kicked off on the Lisburn road too, polish fans coming down dressed head to toe in black with hoods up etc, just went to the first bar they found and beat all round them.
Was at the match and managed to avoid all the trouble.
sorry, it was just a bit of a joke. Havent seen anything on the story bar that rte report...
sorry, it was just a bit of a joke. Havent seen anything on the story bar that rte report...
Aye it's fine mate. Never worry.
A lot of people seem to like jumping on the "those damn NI fans" wagon any time something happens. There were a LOT of polish fans in Belfast today with no tickets to the match and just looking for trouble. It's to be expected when there are so many living here.
Like two home teams playing, sort of.
irishultra
28/03/2009, 10:40 PM
Aye it's fine mate. Never worry.
A lot of people seem to like jumping on the "those damn NI fans" wagon any time something happens. There were a LOT of polish fans in Belfast today with no tickets to the match and just looking for trouble. It's to be expected when there are so many living here.
Like two home teams playing, sort of.
funny there was no trouble here back in november...odd
HarpoJoyce
28/03/2009, 10:41 PM
When does the Football Debate start?
Until then some Shock Northern Ireland Result; NI 3: 2 Polska
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/worldcup/fixturesresults/round=15218/match=302444/report=rp.html
I know a few people who go to matches regulary, Artur played like a sh!t 'Keeper. How can they express that sentiment without cracking their hole laughing? Please provide a PC response?
funny there was no trouble here back in november...odd
:rolleyes:
When does the Football Debate start?
Until then some Shock Northern Ireland Result; NI 3: 2 Polska
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/worldcup/fixturesresults/round=15218/match=302444/report=rp.html
I know a few people who go to matches regulary, Artur played like a sh!t 'Keeper. How can they express that sentiment without cracking their hole laughing? Please provide a PC response?
Boruc was absolutely rubbish. Fans booed him from the very start (and theres nothing wrong with that) and it got to him. The second half especially when he was defending the Kop goal, I don't think he made a successful kick off the ground the entire half.
The third goal, didn't know wether to keep cheering or just start laughing.
Dodge
28/03/2009, 11:41 PM
Boruc was absolutely rubbish. Fans booed him from the very start (and theres nothing wrong with that)
Would McCourt or mcGinn have been booed if they played? Can't think of any other reason NI fans would boo Boruc
irishultra
28/03/2009, 11:41 PM
yeah it seems a bit stupid to boo a player playing in some random scottish team.
Would McCourt or mcGinn have been booed if they played? Can't think of any other reason NI fans would boo Boruc
Every opposition goalkeeper gets booed. Nothing to do with who he plays for. ;)
If it was Neil Alexander or whoever the hell the Rangers keeper is, he'd get booed aswell.
yeah it seems a bit stupid to boo a player playing in some random scottish team.
Puts him off. As is evident tonight. ;)
Some keepers handle it (funnily enough its the rubbish ones that seem to handle it best, or maybe its just because they're so pish we don't notice) and the better keepers that are sometimes affected.
Red&White Rover
29/03/2009, 12:13 AM
Every opposition goalkeeper gets booed. Nothing to do with who he plays for. ;)
If it was Neil Alexander or whoever the hell the Rangers keeper is, he'd get booed aswell.
He would on his ****e...I suppose he'd also get the death threats too?
He would on his ****e...I suppose he'd also get the death threats too?
There is a incorrect image associated with NI fans thats unfortunate. I know that in the past the behaviour left a lot to be desired, but none of that rubbish goes on any more.
As for the "death threats", surely you don't mean the graffiti painted by teenagers on a wall? The same grafitti that residents from Sandy Row cleaned off themselves? Does that constitute as a death threat these days?
There hasn't been a keeper at Windsor yet that hasn't got booed by the way. It works, you should try it. ;)
Anyway, saying no more, the whole subject is irrelevant to these forums.
Complete Rubbish BTW. I watch a fair bit of NI games and no keeper got anywhere near the abuse Boruc did
AnnaghRed
29/03/2009, 2:48 AM
Boruc is an *******, as big an ******* as Gazza was. And what happened today definitely sits in my top 10 life events thusfar...sad, but probably true...also think fitba wouldn't be worth two sh*ts without characters like these to wind opposing fans up
Poor Student
29/03/2009, 7:49 AM
I know a few people who go to matches regulary, Artur played like a sh!t 'Keeper. How can they express that sentiment without cracking their hole laughing? Please provide a PC response?
It was on the agenda before any football was actually played. See Warren Feeney's comments (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/allow-me-to-pole-axe-boruc-14209018.html).
sligobhoy67
29/03/2009, 11:07 AM
It was on the agenda before any football was actually played. See Warren Feeney's comments (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/allow-me-to-pole-axe-boruc-14209018.html).
Well said
1. Feeney's comments whipped up fevor. (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/allow-me-to-pole-axe-boruc-14209018.html)
2. "Death Threat" (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/internationals/death-threat-to-celtic-star-boruc-before-world-cup-game-1655567.html) towards Boruc was distgusting and set the tone again - could have been kids but that is a poor excuse.
3. BBC report that a pub was destroyed (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7969871.stm) - I understand that Polish fans could have started but that NI fans were also involved.
4. NI fans were involved and were rioting elsewhere when they clashed with Polish fans and the police. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7970131.stm)
5. At the game itself NI fans booed the Polish national anthem.
6. NI fans booed Boruc and sung songs at him from first touch to the last - nothing wrong with that per se but again it underpinned the nasty undertone.
7. Coin thrown at the lineman (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7970206.stm) from the NI section.
8. NI sing the "famine song" - possibly one of the most ignorant and disgusting songs ever chanted on football terraces. I dont speak Polish so would welcome any input from those that do.
9. Commentators were complicite and biased - glossed over any chanting, the coin been thrown "I am sure the NI fans will sort it out themselves" and seemed to excuse the booing of Boruc and explain is as him being controvertial.
10. Homes occupied Polish residents (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7970522.stm) were then attack in "racially motivated" incidents.
Now Polish fans have a name for trouble but there wasnt trouble when the played Ireland and I am sure they started some of this but that doesnt explain the widespread disruption from NI fans both inside and outside the ground.
I just wait for Gregory Campbell to come forward and excuse all this and lay the blame at the feet of Celtic fans! :rolleyes:
Well said
1. Feeney's comments whipped up fevor. (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/allow-me-to-pole-axe-boruc-14209018.html)
2. "Death Threat" (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/internationals/death-threat-to-celtic-star-boruc-before-world-cup-game-1655567.html) towards Boruc was distgusting and set the tone again - could have been kids but that is a poor excuse.
3. BBC report that a pub was destroyed (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7969871.stm) - I understand that Polish fans could have started but that NI fans were also involved.
4. NI fans were involved and were rioting elsewhere when they clashed with Polish fans and the police. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7970131.stm)
4. At the game itself NI fans booed the Polish national anthem.
5. NI fans booed Boruc and sung songs at him from first touch to the last - nothing wrong with that per se but again it underpinned the nasty undertone.
5. Coin thrown at the lineman (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7970206.stm) from the NI section.
6. NI sing the "famine song" - possibly one of the most ignorant and disgusting songs ever chanted on football terraces. I dont speak Polish so would welcome any input from those that do.
8. Commentators were complicite and biased - glossed over any chanting, the coin been thrown "I am sure the NI fans will sort it out themselves" and seemed to excuse the booing of Boruc and explain is as him being controvertial.
7. Homes occupied Polish residents (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7970522.stm) were then attack in "racially motivated" incidents.
Now Polish fans have a name for trouble but there wasnt trouble when the played Ireland and I am sure they started some of this but that doesnt explain the widespread disruption from NI fans both inside and outside the ground.
I just wait for Gregory Campbell to come forward and excuse all this and lay the blame at the feet of Celtic fans! :rolleyes:
1. Feenys comments were daft. Granted.
2. Death threat. Sensationalist media.
3. Polish fans destroyed the pub. CCTV confirms it.
4. Disappointing but not surprising.
5. Yes, we sang songs at Boruc. Nothing sectarian. So what? Nothing wrong there.
6. The famine song? Catch a grip. There was NO mention of any famines.
7. Again, disappointing. The guys starting the trouble after the game were not at the game.
sligobhoy67
29/03/2009, 12:53 PM
1. Feenys comments were daft. Granted.
2. Death threat. Sensationalist media.
3. Polish fans destroyed the pub. CCTV confirms it.
4. Disappointing but not surprising.
5. Yes, we sang songs at Boruc. Nothing sectarian. So what? Nothing wrong there.
6. The famine song? Catch a grip. There was NO mention of any famines.
7. Again, disappointing. The guys starting the trouble after the game were not at the game.
Seriously I cant believe you are even trying to defend this!
Feeneys comments could have aided in inciting some of this they were moronic - as was the actions of the person who "daubed" the "death threat"
I dont doubt the Polish fans were the agressor at the pub but the manager of the pub said both sets of fans were involved.
Why not surprising?
As for the Famine song - I definately heard a song sung to the same tune of "the famine song" - did they change the words slightly?
Seriously I cant believe you are even trying to defend this!
Feeneys comments could have aided in inciting some of this they were moronic - as was the actions of the person who "daubed" the "death threat"
I dont doubt the Polish fans were the agressor at the pub but the manager of the pub said both sets of fans were involved.
Why not surprising?
As for the Famine song - I definately heard a song sung to the same tune of "the famine song" - did they change the words slightly?
There are songs sung to the same tune that do mention going home, but none of them involve any famines.
The match is over, why don't you go home etc etc.
I'm not defending Feeney's comments by the way, I think he went too far and a lot of NI fans were annoyed at us being compared to a mini-Ibrox (contrary to popular belief, we aren't the Green Rangers).
It was good to see on Radio 5 Live last night that a polish guy living in England phoned in and said he wasn't surprised at all. The polish are renowned for this, especially when so many of them live here.
The PSNI could have handled it better by showing themselves a bit more. Proactive rather than reactive, so to speak. If they'd just been present at the major areas where fans gather a lot could have been avoided.
sligobhoy67
29/03/2009, 1:37 PM
There are songs sung to the same tune that do mention going home, but none of them involve any famines.
The match is over, why don't you go home etc etc.
I'm not defending Feeney's comments by the way, I think he went too far and a lot of NI fans were annoyed at us being compared to a mini-Ibrox (contrary to popular belief, we aren't the Green Rangers).
It was good to see on Radio 5 Live last night that a polish guy living in England phoned in and said he wasn't surprised at all. The polish are renowned for this, especially when so many of them live here.
The PSNI could have handled it better by showing themselves a bit more. Proactive rather than reactive, so to speak. If they'd just been present at the major areas where fans gather a lot could have been avoided.
Mimmicking rangers songs doesnt help erase the reputation of it being "mini Ibrox" or targetting a Celtic goalkeeper.
I found the behaviour of the NI fans disgusting tbh.
Gather round
29/03/2009, 3:24 PM
This was always going to happen. So much hype and hate being boiled up before this game that it was inevitable
It's unfortunate and to be condemned but hardly inevitable. There's hyperbole around most or all international football, but this was the first instance of serious trouble at a NI game for many years.
funny there was no trouble here back in november...odd
I'm glad there was no trouble (in Dublin), not sure why that is funny (peculiar)?
Would McCourt or mcGinn have been booed if they played? Can't think of any other reason NI fans would boo Boruc
Both played in recent NI games (against SMR and Hungary) respectively. Neither was booed. Possibly because they weren't playing for the opposition?
yeah it seems a bit stupid to boo a player playing in some random scottish team
I'd agree pantomime booing is a bit childish. Seems to have had the desired on-field effect, eh? It was the Polish international side btw, although agreed communication between back four and keeper was random throughout.
He would on his ****e...I suppose he'd also get the death threats too?
I find all this talk of death threats very depressing. Even when clearly intended as a wind-up by morons
http://www.talkceltic.net/forum/world-football/58802-n-ireland-vs-poland-12.html
irishultra
29/03/2009, 3:28 PM
they said 'theres no jobs in ulster, why don't ya go home' bit ironic coming from scottish plantators.
Gather round
29/03/2009, 3:47 PM
Complete Rubbish BTW. I watch a fair bit of NI games and no keeper got anywhere near the abuse Boruc did
I watch almost all NI games and Boruc got more abuse than most opposition players. Mainly because he does seem to revel in his Old Firm cartoon villain image. He also got ridicule for having a complete nightmare. At fault for all three goals, beaten in the air by a man half his size, letting in one that would have been embarrassing in a primary school game.
It was on the agenda before any football was actually played. See Warren Feeney's comments (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/allow-me-to-pole-axe-boruc-14209018.html)
Gormless comments by Feeney (and a complete change from his normal "obviously as I say") routine. I very much doubt the local hooligans- let alone the fighting Poles- are much interested in what wee Warren says.
Well said
It is very depressing that numerous fans from both countries came determined on aggro. I don't downplay that we have a problem with security and prejudice against the Polish community generally.
At the game itself NI fans booed the Polish national anthem
A shame, and childish, but in the scheme of things not that big a deal. NI's anthem gets barracked every time we play Scotland and Wales.
NI fans booed Boruc and sung songs at him from first touch to the last - nothing wrong with that per se but again it underpinned the nasty undertone
Make your mind up- either it's wrong or it isn't. If it isn't, why mention it?
NI sing the "famine song" - possibly one of the most ignorant and disgusting songs ever chanted on football terraces. I dont speak Polish so would welcome any input from those that do
Or possibly not. 'Sloop John B' is just in response to 'Fields of Athenry' at Old Firm games. Childish again, and not nice, but you can't seriously claim it's worse than all the paramilitary stuff we've heard from RangTic and CeltGers fans down the years.
Commentators were complicite and biased - glossed over any chanting, the coin been thrown "I am sure the NI fans will sort it out themselves" and seemed to excuse the booing of Boruc and explain is as him being controvertial
Don't be such a baby. They're Sky TV commentators- of course they'll be biased to the home nation. They weren't complicit in anything, their pointing out that fans around the culprit would point him out was reasonable enough, and they ridiculed Roly Poly because his performance was so bad. Why do they need to take sides in some childish Glaswegian squabble?
Now Polish fans have a name for trouble but there wasnt trouble when the played Ireland and I am sure they started some of this but that doesnt explain the widespread disruption from NI fans both inside and outside the ground
If I was you, I'd be relieved that there wasn't any trouble at the Poland game in Dublin, since as you say the Poles' reputation precedes them. But I wouldn't sneer- after all, anti-foreign riots in Dublin city centre, and football matches being abandoned are hardly unknown.
I just wait for Gregory Campbell to come forward and excuse all this and lay the blame at the feet of Celtic fans! :rolleyes:
Ha ha. Is there no end to your persecution mania?
sligobhoy67
29/03/2009, 3:53 PM
I watch almost all NI games and Boruc got more abuse than most opposition players. Mainly because he does seem to revel in his Old Firm cartoon villain image. He also got ridicule for having a complete nightmare. At fault for all three goals, beaten in the air by a man half his size, letting in one that would have been embarrassing in a primary school game.
without wanting to focus this thread too much on Boruc, but prior to the game or a goal being scored Boruc was getting booed. Why? What has the Old Firm got to do with NI fans? I thought it wasnt "mini Ibrox"
The booing of Boruc was the least of worries that the IFA/UEFA have to consider after yesterdays events. I havent seen one NI fan and say they were disgusted by the actions yesterday - all I have seen is excuses and blame shifting.
If RoI fans acted like that I would be disgusted. It was indefensible.
http://www.talkceltic.net/forum/world-football/58802-n-ireland-vs-poland-12.html
Oh man. :D:D
Some of those comments are a bit.. risque. :D
I watch almost all NI games and Boruc got more abuse than most opposition players. Mainly because he does seem to revel in his Old Firm cartoon villain image.
That was my point. He got abused because he playes for Celtic. its pathetic 9and for the record it was equalling pathetic when the lansdowne Road crowd booed Rangers players)
If anything, the poles had every right to boo him :D
As for songs sung at Boruc, he got this all night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNMnkAYjOUo
sligobhoy67
29/03/2009, 4:02 PM
Oh man. :D:D
Some of those comments are a bit.. risque. :D
they are ht about one thing - the commentators were a joke.
Stuttgart88
29/03/2009, 4:17 PM
Did Boruc get booed just because he plays for Celtic or because he plays for Celtic and he's a provocative idiot who seems to revel in being controversial in a sectarian environment? I think it's a bit PC of us ROI fans to expect him not to be singled out, not saying anything of the night's other incidents.
Boruc has become a total gimp of a keeper these days. 2 years ago I'd have said he was among the better keepers in Europe - indeed he even had a great Euro 2008 tournament - but he looks out of condition and out of form now. He's easily a stone overweight for a pro sportsman.
Stuttgart88
29/03/2009, 4:23 PM
But I wouldn't sneer- after all, anti-foreign riots in Dublin city centre, and football matches being abandoned are hardly unknownYeah, we really wound up those neo-nazi combat 18 types alright. The cheek of us, scoring a goal like that, and being Irish.
they are ht about one thing - the commentators were a joke.
Was at the game so didn't hear the commentary. Was it Jackie Fullerton? If so, he's a pish commentator, not a fan of his at all.
Did Boruc get booed just because he plays for Celtic or because he plays for Celtic and he's a provocative idiot who seems to revel in being controversial in a sectarian environment? I think it's a bit PC of us ROI fans to expect him not to be singled out, not saying anything of the night's other incidents.
Boruc has become a total gimp of a keeper these days. 2 years ago I'd have said he was among the better keepers in Europe - indeed he even had a great Euro 2008 tournament - but he looks out of condition and out of form now. He's easily a stone overweight for a pro sportsman.
Boruc needs to sort out his personal life. Am I right in thinking that his problems at home coincided with his sudden drop in form?
He is undoubtedly a quality keeper on his day, but he isn't having many good days at the moment.
As for him revelling in controversy, I do believe at the start of the second half, he turned round and crossed himself in front of the Kop. Doesn't bother me, I don't care for religion. But it didn't make his life any easier as it just made our fans sing louder and made us want to win even more.
He's a high profile keeper playing for a high profile club. High profile keepers get more abuse than others at Windsor, that's a footballing fact. He did NOT, at any point, get any sectarian abuse.
Gather round
29/03/2009, 4:25 PM
without wanting to focus this thread too much on Boruc, but prior to the game or a goal being scored Boruc was getting booed. Why? What has the Old Firm got to do with NI fans? I thought it wasnt "mini Ibrox"
Agreed the probem isn't Boruc, but the fighting before and after the match.
Don't play dumb. Boruc got stick from NI fans, many (but not all) of whom support Rangers, because he plays on his Old Firm cartoon image as I mentioned.
The booing of Boruc was the least of worries that the IFA/UEFA have to consider after yesterdays events. I havent seen one NI fan and say they were disgusted by the actions yesterday - all I have seen is excuses and blame shifting
The IFA, Polish FA and UEFA can ignore Artur's antics and the response to them. I condemn all violence by fans and am saddened by it.
If RoI fans acted like that I would be disgusted. It was indefensible.
Agreed.
That was my point. He got abused because he playes for Celtic. its pathetic 9and for the record it was equalling pathetic when the lansdowne Road crowd booed Rangers players)
If anything, the poles had every right to boo him :D
Er...not quite the same point. He got such stick because of the comedy villainy, although I'm not naive enough to think a lower-profile Celtic guy in the Polish side wouldn't have got some abuse from the stands.
They are booing him. Even if you don't know any Polish, try reading gazeta.pl (their broadsheet equivalent of Irish Times). 'Koniec' means 'finish(ed)'...
Yeah, we really wound up those neo-nazi combat 18 types alright. The cheek of us, scoring a goal like that, and being Irish
Heh. Now don't be sarky. I think you get the point. Violence by the NI and Poland fans is to be condemned, but let's not get snooty and pretend it can't happen here.
7 I do believe at the start of the second half, he turned round and crossed himself in front of the Kop. Doesn't bother me, I don't care for religion. But it didn't make his life any easier as it just made our fans sing louder... He did NOT, at any point, get any sectarian abuse.
Hmmmmm
Hmmmmm
Hmm indeed. There was NOTHING sectarian shouted at Boruc.
Boruc you're a w**ker, and the video I posted, is the height of it.
Got the occasional "Boruc, give us a wave", but other than it, nothing.
Not Brazil
29/03/2009, 11:02 PM
1. Feenys comments were daft. Granted.
Except that they were misrepresented. Refer last week's Sunday Times.
Anyway, Artur Boruc is now assured his place amongst Northern Ireland legends.
The sight of thousands of Northern Ireland fans singing "Artur Boruc, Ulster's Number 1" is something I'll take to my grave.:D
Northern Ireland fans waiting to exit the Kop Stand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNMnkAYjOUo
:D
Not Brazil
29/03/2009, 11:28 PM
funny there was no trouble here back in november...odd
Maybe the angelic Poles were tired after their "antics" in Slovakia in October?:rolleyes:
SolitudeRed
30/03/2009, 1:35 AM
I'm not surprised there was trouble to be honest the Poles have a bit of a reputation for trouble and well NI fans have been involved in trouble recently enough too. It took two to tango in this case to be fair and you cannot place all blame at the feet of the Polish fans.
I'm not surprised there was trouble to be honest the Poles have a bit of a reputation for trouble and well NI fans have been involved in trouble recently enough too. It took two to tango in this case to be fair and you cannot place all blame at the feet of the Polish fans.
We have? :rolleyes:
When was the last time there was trouble at a NI game?
Sandro
30/03/2009, 9:30 AM
Does anybody know where the return match (5th of September) will be played? Is the venue still to be confirmed?
Gather round
30/03/2009, 9:34 AM
Does anybody know where the return match (5th of September) will be played? Is the venue still to be confirmed?
The Polish FA has confirmed the game for Szczecin (Baltic coast port on the German border about 150km from Berlin). It's a relatively small stadium (ca 17,000) as the Poles are rebuilding other larger grounds for Euro 2012.
old git
30/03/2009, 9:36 AM
We have? :rolleyes:
When was the last time there was trouble at a NI game?
can you not accept / admit some nothern irish fans involved in trouble ,... ok polish fans started trouble before game and police admitted hardcore element travelled over just to create trouble ... but what about the fans who ( n ireland ) who clashed with police after match threw fireworks etc and then deceided to attack a few houses in the village area :mad: and was it also a polish fan hidden amongst home fans who threw missile at linesman just after poland equalised ... shame really all this crap overshadows a great team performance & victory by northern ireland
Stuttgart88
30/03/2009, 9:39 AM
"Artur Boruc, Ulster's Number 1"
:DI'm sure Shay Given would beg to differ.
Sandro
30/03/2009, 9:42 AM
The Polish FA has confirmed the game for Szczecin (Baltic coast port on the German border about 150km from Berlin). It's a relatively small stadium (ca 17,000) as the Poles are rebuilding other larger grounds for Euro 2012.
Thanks. That's where my wife comes from, well she graduated at the University of Sczeczin at least. The stadium is weird, a sort of huge U shaped arena open on one side with almost no cover at all. Local team Pogon used to be one of the best spported in the country but the team got relegated and then disappeared into the lower divisions after the president bought about 16 unknown Brazilian players in a crazy attempt to win the league
can you not accept / admit some nothern irish fans involved in trouble ,... ok polish fans started trouble before game and police admitted hardcore element travelled over just to create trouble ... but what about the fans who ( n ireland ) who clashed with police after match threw fireworks etc and then deceided to attack a few houses in the village area :mad: and was it also a polish fan hidden amongst home fans who threw missile at linesman just after poland equalised ... shame really all this crap overshadows a great team performance & victory by northern ireland
I can accept we were involved in trouble.
I won't accept the picture some people try to paint that we are always just a bunch of rioting bigots.
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