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Ash
09/04/2009, 1:19 PM
Dundalk's program is fantastic best I've seen in years

Dunno what its like this season but in previous years it has been top notch.
Having said that though at one stage their Programme Committee had more
members than our actual Committee!!! :o

The Lilywhites
09/04/2009, 1:42 PM
Dunno what its like this season but in previous years it has been top notch.
Having said that though at one stage their Programme Committee had more
members than our actual Committee!!! :o

So your Committee has less than four people?

micls
09/04/2009, 3:22 PM
Havnt seen the Dundalk one yet, will check it out next week, but havnt seen one better than ours other than that.
Id say 1 in 3 is about right as programme sales go.

Mr A
09/04/2009, 4:56 PM
It would want to be bloody good for €4!

El-Pietro
10/04/2009, 2:43 AM
sligo and bohs are pish poor anyway

derrys is ok - nothing spectacular

look forward to seeing Shamrock Rovers tomorrow, was impressed last season with it

El-Pietro
10/04/2009, 2:44 AM
It would want to be bloody good for €4!
and it is!

plenty of reading in it, full colour and glossy, and the articles are really good this year - id like to see more away team stuff included though

but sure what difference is it to you what price it is, unless you draw us in the cups

Cosmo
10/04/2009, 8:31 AM
and it is!

plenty of reading in it, full colour and glossy, and the articles are really good this year - id like to see more away team stuff included though

but sure what difference is it to you what price it is, unless you draw us in the cups


didnt make the game during the week but corks programme, while a good read, is over rated imo - doesnt seem to be as good as it was a couple of years ago.

Best 2 programmes consistently over the last couple of seasons are rovers and dundalks!!

oriel
10/04/2009, 11:01 AM
Havnt seen the Dundalk one yet, will check it out next week, but havnt seen one better than ours other than that.
Id say 1 in 3 is about right as programme sales go.


Sold out early v bohs and drogs,so get up early next fri, if going to the stand, you can have a nice read of it over with an even nicer cold pint of harp ! You prob wouldn't have tasted this for 7 years :D

Bray Head
10/04/2009, 11:12 AM
Bray's is €3 and mostly colour. Normally 40 or 44 pages. Back copies available in the club shop.

Jersey Cow
10/04/2009, 12:54 PM
Bohs do full colour and the content is abysmal and the paper is also...THE BIG CLUB!!:D

El-Pietro
11/04/2009, 12:39 AM
didnt make the game during the week but corks programme, while a good read, is over rated imo - doesnt seem to be as good as it was a couple of years ago.

Best 2 programmes consistently over the last couple of seasons are rovers and dundalks!!

much better this year

edit: without reading all of Shamrock Rovers programme it looks to be the best away one so far tthis season - but theres not much competition there yet!

thischarmingman
05/07/2009, 6:45 PM
Impressed with the Dundalk programme I got on Friday. Not only was there was quite a lot of reading in it and the fact that it looked very professional, but the best thing about it was that the articles weren't just token ones, but quite well researched and in depth. The interview with Collins was a full 4 page spread and the articles on Europe meant there was something of interest to anyone in it. Easily the best I've read this year.

Aaron
05/07/2009, 7:19 PM
Impressed with the Dundalk programme I got on Friday. Not only was there was quite a lot of reading in it and the fact that it looked very professional, but the best thing about it was that the articles weren't just token ones, but quite well researched and in depth. The interview with Collins was a full 4 page spread and the articles on Europe meant there was something of interest to anyone in it. Easily the best I've read this year.

Ditto, very good programme

Martinho II
06/07/2009, 7:58 PM
Impressed with the Dundalk programme I got on Friday. Not only was there was quite a lot of reading in it and the fact that it looked very professional, but the best thing about it was that the articles weren't just token ones, but quite well researched and in depth. The interview with Collins was a full 4 page spread and the articles on Europe meant there was something of interest to anyone in it. Easily the best I've read this year.


wait till you till see sligo rovers effort last week. It runs dundalk close quality pity that was a once off..

longfordjames
03/06/2010, 9:50 AM
Can I ask about programmes again bit of an anorak!
Does your Club have posters in the programme?
Are they easily accesible if I do recall they were harder to find in some grounds?

micls
03/06/2010, 9:53 AM
Can I ask about programmes again bit of an anorak!
Does your Club have posters in the programme?
Are they easily accesible if I do recall they were harder to find in some grounds?

Our programme this year is half and half colour and b/w and 3euro.

Middle page is a poster. Easy to find, 2 people on the road as you come up to the ground and 1/2/ directly inside the turnstiles

Straightstory
03/06/2010, 10:26 AM
Best - Dundalk
Worst - UCD

Sam_Heggy
03/06/2010, 11:11 AM
Best - Dundalk
Worst - UCD

Best in the first division 2009 - Finn Harps :)

Magicme
03/06/2010, 11:16 AM
Best in the first division 2009 - Finn Harps :)

Saw that alright! Congrats. Think we will be in for a shout for that next year, ours has improved so much this year.

Sam_Heggy
03/06/2010, 11:20 AM
Saw that alright! Congrats. Think we will be in for a shout for that next year, ours has improved so much this year.

Sorry but whilst I do agree it has improved, it's not improved that much.

I'll wait until I have seen every programme before making judgement on which is the best :)

gspain
03/06/2010, 12:44 PM
Shamrock Rovers won premier division programme of the year btw for 2009.

Dodge
03/06/2010, 1:03 PM
Shamrock Rovers won premier division programme of the year btw for 2009.

Whilst deserved for 2009, I think Dundalk's is superb this year (and in fairness it was very good last year too). Rovers' is still good too and Sligo's has improved considerably. Pats programme has more info than in recent seasons but the lack of full colour takes away from the presentation of it. They do have a full colour poster in the middle pages (action shot with player's signature on it)

Darkglasses
03/06/2010, 1:40 PM
Youth's one is full colour, €3, 20 pages, no idea about sales! Ours was quite bad for the first few home games, but they completely changed it 4 or 5 home games ago, much better now. One of the players writes an article in each programme.

mick dundee
03/06/2010, 10:31 PM
this years dundalk programe is 48 page full colour and only €3. the size has also changed this year to and more compact a5 size which is a lot hadier. the content has also improved a lot

John83
04/06/2010, 3:11 PM
this years dundalk programe is 48 page full colour and only €3. the size has also changed this year to and more compact a5 size which is a lot hadier. the content has also improved a lot
The UCD one has a new editor. It's reduced to 16 pages, but is full colour on glossy paper. Any non-UCD opinions here on the content?

fionnsci
04/06/2010, 4:15 PM
Only read it once. I thought it was overpriced really, there's not much content in it. What is in it is good enough though.

Enruoblehs
05/06/2010, 9:49 AM
No programme for the Dublin Bus v Shelbourne game last night.

Is this a first for an FAI Cup 3rd Round game?

bullit
05/06/2010, 10:40 AM
welcome to the Ritz sir

Bray Head
06/06/2010, 10:51 AM
The UCD one has a new editor. It's reduced to 16 pages, but is full colour on glossy paper. Any non-UCD opinions here on the content?

Thought the UCD one was decent enough with plenty of colour photos. Dundalk and Sligo Rovers look the best this season. Shamrock Rovers is always good as well.

GUFCghost
06/06/2010, 12:14 PM
The cover of the Galway United one is sometimes in Irish.

pineapple stu
06/06/2010, 4:59 PM
Thought the UCD one was decent enough with plenty of colour photos.
I'm always amazed how many people thinlks lots of colour photos equates to a good programme.

Dundalk's is excellent this year (it's been very good the last couple of years, but has improved this year). The bit on match preparation and the flashback to whatever year were very well done. Rovers' is good too, if pricey. I've stopped buying other clubs' programmes cos I got tired of paying E3 for a booklet of ads, some random match pictures and a welcome from the chairman.

The Lep
06/06/2010, 5:04 PM
Drogheda's programme is a decent one at €2.

**FrOsTy**
06/06/2010, 5:10 PM
Longfords programme was a disgrace. 4/5 pages of info the rest ads, Cover had the club name (in this case Waterford United) on a label and stuck on same for the date, The squad list had 2/3 players from last years squad that are not in this years squad and was missing 1 or 2 from this years squad. Hugely overpriced at €3 for it's content.

Dodge
06/06/2010, 6:35 PM
I'm always amazed how many people thinlks lots of colour photos equates to a good programme.


I'm constantly astounded how you don't grasp that shiny glossy thigns are better that photocopied black & white efforts. Content is fine, but presentation is important, particularly when everyone isn't as geeky as us

Dunny
06/06/2010, 8:06 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/oh4hf9.png

Cover from the UCD game in April.(Just to give a general idea of it)

pineapple stu
06/06/2010, 8:43 PM
I'm constantly astounded how you don't grasp that shiny glossy thigns are better that photocopied black & white efforts. Content is fine, but presentation is important, particularly when everyone isn't as geeky as us
I do grasp it; I'd have loved our programme to be at least B&W glossy, but it'd have made a loss, which we couldn't afford (now having anything to cover the kloss with).

But I don't apologise for saying plenty of pictures doesn't make a good programme. It's like some people find reading too much effort, but nice pictures are ok.

(And I'll also refer to your recent post to Ezeikal about using non-sequiturs purely to have a dig)

corkharps
06/06/2010, 9:10 PM
Programme for Harps home games now available online 24 hrs before kickoff! programme@finnharps.com. Another first for the league?

Dodge
06/06/2010, 9:58 PM
(And I'll also refer to your recent post to Ezeikal about using non-sequiturs purely to have a dig)

It wasn't about him having a dig, it was about him avoiding the criticism (which he answered later in fairness). Simply put, some people want different things from their programme and its nothing to do with finding "reading too much effort"

Mark
06/06/2010, 10:18 PM
Glenville's prog for today's game with Bohs was better than many League ones i've seen this year. Lots of info on the club and players as well as the ads which were to be expected.

Dodge
06/06/2010, 11:13 PM
Produced by the Star apparently

seand
07/06/2010, 9:23 AM
No programme for the Dublin Bus v Shelbourne game last night.

Is this a first for an FAI Cup 3rd Round game?

far from it! Nothing for Cherry Orchard v Mons last season, but thats the tip of the iceberg. Still, in this day and age you'd think someone at Dublin Bus knows someone with a PC and printer who could print out an 8 page programme and sell it for 3 quid a go.

pineapple stu
07/06/2010, 11:59 AM
It wasn't about him having a dig, it was about him avoiding the criticism (which he answered later in fairness). Simply put, some people want different things from their programme and its nothing to do with finding "reading too much effort"
You mayn't have meant it, but your post came across as "Yeah, well you think this, so what do you know", which very much came across as a dig for a dig's sake.

Obviously different people are interestewd in different things, but I'm curious as to the why's of that rather than the fact itself.

Just to clarify muy post - in a recent UCD programme, there was a full-page colour photo of Greg Bolger in an Ireland jersey cos he was in the U23 squad. It was captioned something like "Greg Bolger, who was involved in the recent U23 international against England. Well done!", or some such.

That to me is a complete waste of a page. You look at it, go "oh" and move on within five seconds. Had the same photo been used in an article about Bolger - maybe an interview asking what it was like to play against the national side and such like - it'd have been excellent. But on its own, it added very little. And I'm curious to know what others see in pieces like that.

(And I'm picking on our programme purely for ease of reference obviously)

Dodge
07/06/2010, 3:29 PM
So extrapolating your logic, you’d prefer no pictures at all, and just text? No, you’d like some pictures, and some text (as you say about the Bolger pic) as clearly pictures add some value.

Now imagine you’re a 13 year old kid, who’s da buys a programme. You don’t want to read about about injuries, you want to see the nice picture of Greg Bolger representing his country. Thats the sort of thing that will make him want to come back and see UCD again (or at least it will do more than a pictureless article). In the original post, the guy asked about posters. Itsdefinitely important to some.

Pictures and, more importantly, presentation are vital if clubs want to project themselves well to people who attend the games. Anyone who buys Dundalk’s programme can’t help but think they’re a professional well run club. If I was a sponsor I’d be delighted to see my ad in such a publication

Martinho II
07/06/2010, 4:03 PM
Longfords programme was a disgrace. 4/5 pages of info the rest ads, Cover had the club name (in this case Waterford United) on a label and stuck on same for the date, The squad list had 2/3 players from last years squad that are not in this years squad and was missing 1 or 2 from this years squad. Hugely overpriced at €3 for it's content.
what players were mentioned frosty that arent in this year's panel? to be honest if noone is going to our games no wonder we are making cutbacks to our program this year.. I remember one or two occasions when I went down to the RSC a few years back and there wasnt a match program produced for our game because the printer had gone on "summer holidays". You would think they would have found ways around it. At least we are producing one. Four years ago towards the end of the season we actually stopped producing home programs for the last two months because of the high costs in producing a program...

harps1954
07/06/2010, 4:12 PM
No programme for the Dublin Bus v Shelbourne game last night.

Is this a first for an FAI Cup 3rd Round game?

Nothing produced by Shelbourne for their FAI Cup game with Harps in 2004 - at the time, Shels were the League Champions but their excuse for not producing a programme was because the game was on a Saturday night in Tolka and that they had more important things to be worrying about (they were playing a Champions League game the following Wednesday). Not the first, or indeed the last time, that Shels didn't produce a programme for a Cup and/or league game.

Schumi
07/06/2010, 5:08 PM
So extrapolating your logic, you'd prefer no pictures at all, and just text?Strawman anyone? Perhaps extrapolating your logic, you'd buy Woman's Way rather than The Irish Times. :rolleyes:

Of course having a nice looking programme with glossy paper and nice pictures is better than not having those but lots of programmes in the league have nice glossy paper, a couple of photos, loads of ads and 2 or 3 pages to read. To me charging €3 for something that I'd be finished with in 5 minutes is a rip off.

I wasn't down in Dundalk this year but their proogramme when we were there in the cup a few years ago was great, a good mix of nice presentation and articles that were worth reading. Cork managed the same a few years back too. Why does a nice looking programme require that there's nothing to read in it?

gufcfan
07/06/2010, 7:39 PM
I'm constantly astounded how you don't grasp that shiny glossy thigns are better that photocopied black & white efforts. Content is fine, but presentation is important, particularly when everyone isn't as geeky as us
Colour is incredibly expensive.

For example, if Galway United were to have a full-colour 32 page programme, it would incur a substantial loss and would still lose money if it were sold €2 dearer at @ €5 each.

**FrOsTy**
07/06/2010, 7:46 PM
what players were mentioned frosty that arent in this year's panel? to be honest if noone is going to our games no wonder we are making cutbacks to our program this year.. I remember one or two occasions when I went down to the RSC a few years back and there wasnt a match program produced for our game because the printer had gone on "summer holidays". You would think they would have found ways around it. At least we are producing one. Four years ago towards the end of the season we actually stopped producing home programs for the last two months because of the high costs in producing a program...

Joe Mulcahy and Declan Woodgate are the two that I can remember from last years squad that are in it. Don't have a programme to reference just going on reading one on friday. And Josh Byrne our 3rd choice keeper doesn't feature in it.

Dodge
07/06/2010, 8:22 PM
Strawman anyone? Perhaps extrapolating your logic, you'd buy Woman's Way rather than The Irish Times. :rolleyes:


A lot of people do. it isn't about what I'd do, its about trying to explain something it pineapple that he said he couldn't understand. To some people, presentation means more than content. Just like the way some people prefer Women's way to the IT


Why does a nice looking programme require that there's nothing to read in it?
I don't think anyone claimed that (and apologies if my posts implied similar)


Colour is incredibly expensive.
Of course it is, but its what everybody would like to do. My own club made the decision to go from full colour to partial colour for budgetary reasons. NO shame in that in this league

Enruoblehs
07/06/2010, 10:57 PM
As far as I know, it wasn't a requirement then, is it now?

Re the Harps Cup game 24 July 2004, the schedule of games around that game was amazing, if you take into account travel to and from the away games.

July 14 Away to KR Reykjavic
July 18 Home to Drogheda
July 21 Home to KR Reykjavic
July 24 Home to Harps in Cup
July 28 Away to Hajduk Split

Oh to have those time problems again :)