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don ramo
16/02/2009, 12:14 PM
how do we get to salthill devon, and tullamore town, what are they like does anyone know,
so its now offical, who staying, whos going lads, should be an interesting AGM
ramblers
16/02/2009, 1:53 PM
Its a huge blow to the club and I hope it will bounce back.
It is going to be hard to generate intrest and revenue in an a league that does not start until May and ends in September or something like that.
don ramo
16/02/2009, 1:58 PM
Its a huge blow to the club and I hope it will bounce back.
It is going to be hard to generate intrest and revenue in an a league that does not start until May and ends in September or something like that.
may oh dear god, how are we suppose to run a club with a 5 month season, i hope everyone is happy BTW
harps1954
16/02/2009, 2:16 PM
Lads, what the **** happened. This time last year you were on a high, looking forward to the Premier Division having just won the First Division Championship. Fast forward twelve months and your club can't obtain a senior League licence and even your 'A' licence is subject to financial conditions. How did you get a Premier Division licence twelve months ago and your in danger of not even getting an 'A' licence this year?
Beezer
16/02/2009, 2:44 PM
Its quite simple what happened.The club was ran into the ground by a incompetent chairman and committee.Despite been advised and warned of the serious financial position the club was in early in the season,this advice was ignored and the club kept spending money it didnt have.On top of this there was no fundraising done,all people were interested in was meetings after meetings whilst the club slid into financial ruin.
And today we see the result of it.
IMO we wont even qualify for an "A" league license as we dont have 2 cents to rub together.
SADDEST DAY IN THE CLUBS HISTORY AND WE ONLY HAVE OURSELVES TO BLAME FOR ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN
pcplod
16/02/2009, 2:46 PM
Lads, what the **** happened. This time last year you were on a high, looking forward to the Premier Division having just won the First Division Championship. Fast forward twelve months and your club can't obtain a senior League licence and even your 'A' licence is subject to financial conditions. How did you get a Premier Division licence twelve months ago and your in danger of not even getting an 'A' licence this year?
Complete and utter incompetance together with egos bigger than you can imagine and inhouse arguing that would rival the Dail Eireann on a bad day that is what happened:mad:
Cici900
16/02/2009, 2:57 PM
I hope those FOCR'S are happy! They've got what they wanted!
Sad day.:(:(:(
Very sorry to hear of what has happened in Cobh. Hope ye can make some form of opportunity of this disaster, get your house in order, and bounce back stronger than ever.
osarusan
16/02/2009, 3:06 PM
Very sorry to hear of what has happened in Cobh. Hope ye can make some form of opportunity of this disaster, get your house in order, and bounce back stronger than ever.
Agreed.
Obviously the club isn't in great shape at the moment, and I think you need to accept responsibility for that, but I also think you have a right to feel disappointed in the FAI.
Hope you won't be in exile too long.
Beezer
16/02/2009, 3:07 PM
And what about all the people that supported the Chairman in the vote of no confidence earlier in the season.They made the man look like a "god" that time and now they are running for committee.If the get elected all they will be is yes men.
Cici900
16/02/2009, 3:15 PM
He did his best! What cabn ya do when the fai turn down an offer and then they go off and pump money into drogheda? why wouldnt they help us? Its a joke. How can you blame the chairman? Yes he spent the money to get us into the prem but then he comes up with a great sensible solution and the fai turn it down! It was ok i suppose until they put money into drogheda which has helped them get a licence!:mad::(:mad:
He did his best! What cabn ya do when the fai turn down an offer and then they go off and pump money into drogheda? why wouldnt they help us? Its a joke. How can you blame the chairman? Yes he spent the money to get us into the prem but then he comes up with a great sensible solution and the fai turn it down! It was ok i suppose until they put money into drogheda which has helped them get a licence!:mad::(:mad:
Take off the blinkers please. The FAI did not get ye into this mess, ye got yereselves into this mess.
You cant blame them just because they didnt bail ye out of it. Half a million is a lot of money to hand to a club thats just run itself into the ground, especially when the same people who did that are in charge.
On the Drogheda situation. I dont think they should help Drogheda BUT 25k is a long way from 500k.
Accept that the blame is ye're own or ye have no hope of moving on.
don ramo
16/02/2009, 3:24 PM
well the FOCR are happy, there were right, i hope they feel great knowing there right, wonder if the boycott on the club will continue, if it does forget about even existing in 12 month time,
don ramo
16/02/2009, 3:28 PM
Take off the blinkers please. The FAI did not get ye into this mess, ye got yereselves into this mess.
You cant blame them just because they didnt bail ye out of it. Half a million is a lot of money to hand to a club thats just run itself into the ground, especially when the same people who did that are in charge.
On the Drogheda situation. I dont think they should help Drogheda BUT 25k is a long way from 500k.
Accept that the blame is ye're own or ye have no hope of moving on.
i understand we got ourselves into this, there is more to the proposal being rejected and the FOCR are to blame for it, we could have got that deal dont in november, but with all the delays and legal proceedings, it got to close to the season and became a legal nightmare, that it was impossible to give it to us,
Today should have been a day which generated great excitement amongst Ramblers supporters with the licence being granted and now awaiting the fixtures to see who we'd be playing in the first home game of the season. Instead its quite the opposite and here we are with our noses just above water and continuing to agrue. Unbelievable honest to God. What's done is done and we need to forget it. I've said before that the pointing fingers and blame games need to stop if any progress is to be made at all. Micls is right in saying that we need to accept that the blame is our own and move on.
i understand we got ourselves into this, there is more to the proposal being rejected and the FOCR are to blame for it, we could have got that deal dont in november, but with all the delays and legal proceedings, it got to close to the season and became a legal nightmare, that it was impossible to give it to us,
I can understand what your saying.Given the large amount of money involved though I think it would have been far from a certainty anyway
But the lad above who was blaming the whole mess on the FAI is out of order imo.
Town Legend
16/02/2009, 3:37 PM
Sorry to see ye demoted lads. Hopefully ye will bounce back stronger than ever and we'll see ye back in the First Division next season.
don ramo
16/02/2009, 3:40 PM
Sorry to see ye demoted lads. Hopefully ye will bounce back stronger than ever and we'll see ye back in the First Division next season.
are ye planing on challengeing this season
Town Legend
16/02/2009, 3:48 PM
Doubt it hoping for top half but will have to wait and see.Gough seems to be putting a decent team together but when Sporting and Shels have the squads they have they'd be challenging for the Premier title never mind the First!!! I'd be happy with a top 6 finish.
the sub
16/02/2009, 4:06 PM
I can understand what your saying.Given the large amount of money involved though I think it would have been far from a certainty anyway
But the lad above who was blaming the whole mess on the FAI is out of order imo.
No use crying over what you should have done with regards to saving the club.
Now is the time to call an EGM and see what is needed to appeal.
Can I say there is more going on behinds the close doors that is not very nice that needed to be brought out in the open.
I think that you all need to meet the commette and see where you as a club failed and see if you can bring in new commette officers before it is too late.
Good luck
1-Preventing the mess was the chairmans first challenge-FAILED
2-Controlling it was next-FAILED
3-Coming up with a solution that members would agree to-FAILED
Sorry now but blaming another party lacks responsibility and the very fact ppl stood around and watched is the real problem.If the solution was what everyone wanted then it would have had overwhelming support and it simply did not because it stank.We couldnt even pay our players at the end yet we still had a high profile bar manager.The club is on its knees and needs the town now more than ever but as Ive stated before I wont step near the bar or pitch once this current crop is there and theres plenty more like me....Sadly I think some of the names that were put forward for commitee are just as bad, I also feel anyone putting their name forward should neme themselves here and stop the childish behavior-how can anybody take anyone serious reading the shi+e here??
pcplod
16/02/2009, 4:22 PM
No need for an EGM as our AGM is on the 1st march so we can get things aorted then
The high profile manager you speak of is the only thing keeping the doors open and if you really cared for the club you would support it regardless. The bar is the only part of the buisness that is making money and is infact ahead of its targets so if you want to start picking holes in things I suggest that you try starting in the many places that actually do have problems at this stage our club has gone through enough without this crap and frankly we dont need "supporters" like you so see ya!
I also feel anyone putting their name forward should neme themselves here and stop the childish behavior-how can anybody take anyone serious reading the shi+e here??
Mine's on it and I won't be losing one bit of sleep if I don't receive a single vote (at least I will have tried) because I know that I'll will still be there helping out if wanted.
bellavistaman
16/02/2009, 4:35 PM
Well you wont be getting my vote. :D
Shur that's grand. I can live with the rejection!
the sub
16/02/2009, 4:41 PM
Mine's on it and I won't be losing one bit of sleep if I don't receive a single vote (at least I will have tried) because I know that I'll will still be there helping out if wanted.
JUST ONE QUESTION,
I just cant understand how a chairman can have so much POWER within a club.
A chairman chair a meeting and have a casting vote that it.
The commette and members vote and its passed, how can a chairman decide without the agreement of all members.
You cannot tell me a chairman can run a club by himself unless he is paying the bills out of his own pocket and it is his club
Im amazed one man has so much power.
MainManRam
16/02/2009, 4:47 PM
Take off the blinkers please. The FAI did not get ye into this mess, ye got yereselves into this mess.
You cant blame them just because they didnt bail ye out of it. Half a million is a lot of money to hand to a club thats just run itself into the ground, especially when the same people who did that are in charge.
On the Drogheda situation. I dont think they should help Drogheda BUT 25k is a long way from 500k.
Accept that the blame is ye're own or ye have no hope of moving on.
I would love to disagree with ya but your absolutly spot on. The people of CRFC have no-one else to blame but themselves. We got ourselves into the mess and then spent evry hour of evry day bitching with each other- without ever coming up with any sensible way of getting out of it- and yes I don't believe asking the FAI to bail us out was a sensible way of getting out of it
Well its good your public about who you are Luka,hopefully your strong minded and able to deal with the club in general. As for you pcplod whoever you are I have nothing against the bar manager personally but I dont feel the club needs one especially as the other staff are perfectly capable of running the place.U also have no idea who the club needs as a supporter.
the sub
16/02/2009, 5:02 PM
I would love to disagree with ya but your absolutly spot on. The people of CRFC have no-one else to blame but themselves. We got ourselves into the mess and then spent evry hour of evry day bitching with each other- without ever coming up with any sensible way of getting out of it- and yes I don't believe asking the FAI to bail us out was a sensible way of getting out of it
Yes I do agree re FAI bail out but there was no other plan and no fundrasing over 10/11 months.
That is why your in this position now but its still not to late as l keep saying if you call a full supporters meeting now not through this thread but through the paper/RADIO, see what support you get and see is it possable to appeal,
But don't sit on your chairs venting your anger on everyone through this thread or others.
But I do belive you have to change the Chairman now or he should resign with immedate effect. Nothing againt the man but I feel he has divided the club and lost the support of the supporters and members because he wanted to do it his way and no other way.
pcplod
16/02/2009, 5:05 PM
You dont think we need one is that a joke the girls are capable of doing their job i have no problem with that but i am sure they wouldnt appreciate having to deal with all the suppliers and being called upon to open dressing rooms etc because the manager cant be arsed to get a key and there are countless other stuff asweel so we do need one and the sooner people realise that the better without him the doors would have been closed months ago
Agree with you sub the club needs a new face but its important this person needs to be open-minded and quartly info meetings are nearly a must at this stage,the members would be a lot happier knowing the accounts etc before it was too late.
Some of the names going forward I hope are just for fun,its a commitee of a business ffs that has its own staff etc.Anyone going on board Id imagine would have at least 5 years of local business expierence and a proven track record--sadly the club doesnt need young do-gooders or well wishers or anything of the sort,set up a fundraising commitee a football club isnt a toy we need a strong board who are all on the same playing field
Sorry to see you lot go down lads, and I mean that. I was looking forward to a trip to Cobh again this year it has to be said and I might make the odd trip down to catch Ramblers in action in the A League if it doesn't clash with Limerick games.
Here's hoping all your grievances can be sorted once the AGM is done and Cobh Ramblers as a club can achieve some level of unity and get back in to the First Division for next season
Martinho II
16/02/2009, 7:22 PM
i was gutted to hear that ye arent in the first division this year as I was lookin forward to the trip as I hadnt bein up there in nine years.. hopefully ye will learn from the experience and start again from scratch..
MainManRam
16/02/2009, 7:32 PM
i was gutted to hear that ye arent in the first division this year as I was lookin forward to the trip as I hadnt bein up there in nine years.. hopefully ye will learn from the experience and start again from scratch..
Martinho- Thats one thing I can never understand about people up the country- surely you havent been down here in nine years:D
rambler14
16/02/2009, 7:52 PM
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Very appropriate on this sad day!
Jdrams fan
16/02/2009, 9:06 PM
this is a terrible day for our club and still the feckin idiots on this site can't help themselves blaming everyone in sight its done now and there is not a lot we can do about it. So as our many friends from clubs around the country have been saying its a time to start again and lets build C.R.F.C. from the ground up and lets do it properly.
Firstly When it comes to the AGM yes this commitee (good or bad) has run its course and new blood has to come in and i don't mean the F.O.C.R. i think all of these people i have mentioned above at one time really cared about the club but now there personal problems with each other has consumed them and clouded their views on helping the club. So i would ask them all (commitee and focr's) to step back and let people who have real business knowledge and no pre concieved notions about other people in the club whoever they maybe come in and get a solid foundation in place and build from there.
Please do the right thing all of you and you know who you are and don't drag us down let us start again and grow to our full potential.
Scrufil
16/02/2009, 11:09 PM
I hate to say this but Cork as a sporting county is gradually descending into a complete farce. You have lads here fighting with a Soccer club going out of the league and you have Hurlers and maybe Gaelic Footballers going to go on strike because of sheer pig headness. What the hell are they putting in the water in Cork these days? :eek:
Can you not just sort out your differences and get on with things?
rambler14
16/02/2009, 11:11 PM
I hate to say this but Cork as a sporting county is gradually descending into a complete farce. You have lads here fighting with a Soccer club going out of the league and you have Hurlers and maybe Gaelic Footballers going to go on strike because of sheer pig headness. What the hell are they putting in the water in Cork these days? :eek:
Can you not just sort out your differences and get on with things?
I think Redshanks can answer that.......he reports on it every week! Lake Chromium is the downfall of Cork sport!
chimpster
17/02/2009, 6:30 AM
this is a terrible day for our club and still the feckin idiots on this site can't help themselves blaming everyone in sight its done now and there is not a lot we can do about it. So as our many friends from clubs around the country have been saying its a time to start again and lets build C.R.F.C. from the ground up and lets do it properly.
Firstly When it comes to the AGM yes this commitee (good or bad) has run its course and new blood has to come in and i don't mean the F.O.C.R. i think all of these people i have mentioned above at one time really cared about the club but now there personal problems with each other has consumed them and clouded their views on helping the club. So i would ask them all (commitee and focr's) to step back and let people who have real business knowledge and no pre concieved notions about other people in the club whoever they maybe come in and get a solid foundation in place and build from there.
Please do the right thing all of you and you know who you are and don't drag us down let us start again and grow to our full potential.
Spot on. Best post I've read here in weeks.
We are far from finished yet with this yet. We still have to meet certain conditions if the A licence is to be awarded. I'm guessing that this includes providing a tax clearance cert before the season starts in April or May. We also still have the Revenue and several creditors breathing down our necks looking for their money. I reckon we have about 2 months to gather a small fortune in fundraising, and that can only happen if the current regime steps (or is pushed) aside. Change must start now.
If we are to have a prayer of survival, the running of the club needs to be taken over by an unconnected group of open-minded individuals with business experience and some fresh ideas. No dictators, no lackeys and no focr's...
Cici900
17/02/2009, 1:39 PM
Take off the blinkers please. The FAI did not get ye into this mess, ye got yereselves into this mess.
You cant blame them just because they didnt bail ye out of it. Half a million is a lot of money to hand to a club thats just run itself into the ground, especially when the same people who did that are in charge.
On the Drogheda situation. I dont think they should help Drogheda BUT 25k is a long way from 500k.
Accept that the blame is ye're own or ye have no hope of moving on.
but they helped drogheda get a licence none the less! but didnt they say they wouldnt help us if it meant helping us get a licence? Or did i miss something? Am i one of a whole bunch that imagined that the fai woudnt help us?. I must be dreaming a nightmare so. And drogheda got help then!
What a shambles
MainManRam
17/02/2009, 4:47 PM
I hate to say this but Cork as a sporting county is gradually descending into a complete farce. You have lads here fighting with a Soccer club going out of the league and you have Hurlers and maybe Gaelic Footballers going to go on strike because of sheer pig headness. What the hell are they putting in the water in Cork these days? :eek:
Can you not just sort out your differences and get on with things?
There is always one:mad:
Where abouts in Dublin is Athlone anyway???
but they helped drogheda get a licence none the less! but didnt they say they wouldnt help us if it meant helping us get a licence? Or did i miss something? Am i one of a whole bunch that imagined that the fai woudnt help us?. I must be dreaming a nightmare so. And drogheda got help then!
What a shambles
How is any of that to blame for the mess you're in?
You're confusing 2 things, what got ye into the mess and the FAI refusing to bail ye out. They arent one and the same.
passerrby
17/02/2009, 10:18 PM
How is any of that to blame for the mess you're in?
You're confusing 2 things, what got ye into the mess and the FAI refusing to bail ye out. They arent one and the same.
while your dead right micls they are right to feel ****ed of about the double standards been applied by the fai
Cici900
18/02/2009, 9:41 AM
How is any of that to blame for the mess you're in?
You're confusing 2 things, what got ye into the mess and the FAI refusing to bail ye out. They arent one and the same.
I no that but what I am saying is: We asked for help after getting ourselves in a mess. And the FAI refused and I didn't really have a problem with that because they couldn't be seen to help one club get a licence and not the other but then they put money into Drogs . Which surely should mean they should help every club in trouble like? I'm just asking this question because they wouldn't help us for this reason but now they have gone and helped another club which is ludicrous after what they told us like!
sadloserkid
19/02/2009, 3:54 PM
I think MICLS original point is valid. There's a world of difference between putting 25K into a ground that you already own and 500K to buy a whooly new ground. Obviously they probably shouldn't have done either...
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