View Full Version : Keane back to Spurs!
paul_oshea
03/02/2009, 11:34 AM
would be killer if keane played in that game scored 2 goals and denied liverpool top spot. Would absoloutely love it.
endabob1
03/02/2009, 12:15 PM
Liverpool won't be within 10 points of Utd by then so it will be irrelevant.
There is a large minority who are not jumping up and down at the return of the "green Judas" personally I'm happy he's back but until defoe was signed off for the rest of the season I didn't see the sense in it
Paddywhackspurs
03/02/2009, 12:26 PM
Oh happy days :d:d:d:d:d:d
Scram
03/02/2009, 12:39 PM
would be killer if keane played in that game scored 2 goals and denied liverpool top spot. Would absoloutely love it.
A bitter and twisted wish...................I was hoping for a hat trick with the same result! :)
Until Benitez leaves Liverpool I wish them no luck. The way he treated Robbie was appalling.
tricky_colour
03/02/2009, 1:16 PM
I wonder who took his spot in the car park and whether he will get it back?
rambler14
03/02/2009, 1:50 PM
What number will he be?
limerickblue
03/02/2009, 2:11 PM
I heard that jaime o. hara left a number 7 liverpool shirt in his locker, I guess he will never want to see number 7 again anyway.
Liverpool havnt had a good number 7 in awhile
rambler14
03/02/2009, 2:12 PM
He was 7 at Leeds, Inter and Liverpool and he was crap so never agian IMO.
Greenbod
03/02/2009, 3:34 PM
ideally i would love to see keane score goals in the green jersey of ireland.....
that goes without saying..............the context of the conversation was his move from Liverpool to Spurs.
ArdeeBhoy
03/02/2009, 3:38 PM
More fool, Robbie!
But then the grass wasn't greener when he went to play with the big boys.
Just hope it sees an improvement in his abject form for Ireland ??
sadloserkid
03/02/2009, 3:59 PM
Played for two big clubs in his career and has failed utterly at both (circumstances will be forgotten in time). Taking the Irish glasses off for a second he'll have to go down as one of the great Premiership flops surely?
irishfan86
03/02/2009, 4:02 PM
Played for two big clubs in his career and has failed utterly at both (circumstances will be forgotten in time). Taking the Irish glasses off for a second he'll have to go down as one of the great Premiership flops surely?
I think the majority of neutral opinion sides with Robbie.
He was either a pawn in a contract negotiation, or Benitez really didn't know what player he was buying.
DeLorean
03/02/2009, 4:13 PM
Taking the Irish glasses off for a second he'll have to go down as one of the great Premiership flops surely?
Yes, an absolute legend at the club where he spent the majority of his PL days. 110 goals in 293 PL games and God knows how many of those games he came on/went off as sub. One of the great PL flops indeed, I'd have him third behind Jo and Ade Akinbiyi
jbyrne
03/02/2009, 4:26 PM
Played for two big clubs in his career and has failed utterly at both (circumstances will be forgotten in time). Taking the Irish glasses off for a second he'll have to go down as one of the great Premiership flops surely?
what drivel
Stuttgart88
03/02/2009, 5:32 PM
Benitez was just on BBC radio saying that Keane couldn't handle the pressure of a big club.
It's not as if Benitez did anything to take the pressure off him. My opinion of Benitez is even lower today than it was yesterday.
I think any no. 10 type forward would struggle at Liverpool under Benitez. It's all about Torres and Gerrard up there with no room for anyone else with a strong personality.
Dirk Kuyt is mediocrity personified (though his early season form was very good). Ryan Babbel is a talented player who has done eff all at Liverpool and Benitez' full back purchases have typically been rubbish. It seems that Benitez is prepared to treat some players differently to others.
By the way, Robbie is nowhere near a favourite Irish player of mine so I'm resaonably objective.
If he goes through with it I'm finished with him... I'm sure Keane will be heartbroken, I didn't realise ye were an item
I'd say you were right if it were this time next year and we had a major tournament looming... He has nothing to loose by trying to stick it out and do himself justice at the club. His Irish place is secure. Despite Liverpools treatment of him they're still light up front and have an injury prone main man (thus far this season). Gerard has some of the feild stuff to deal with. There's Champions league, FA Cup and league games left so there's plenty of oppertunities to give Benitez a metaphorical two fingers. Rafas not in a position to ignore him totally purely from players perspective. Yeah it's true Rafa's had cheap shots at him. Only when he'd everyone fit?? And how often has that happened.You have to be man enough to power through it.. Big enough to admint that you have under performed.... And he has under performed.
We may not have a major tournament looming but we got major qualification games comming up against Italy and Bulgaria and I for one am glad that he will be getting first team football rather than rotting away in the Liverpool reserves. Its true that he had some poor games but even when he played well he was virtually guaranteed to be subbed around the 60 minute mark whilst players playing much worse than him like Kuyt were untouchable. Even when he started to hit a bit of form and score 3 goals in 2 games, what does Benitez do? Bench him. The final straw was dropping him from the bench against Chelsea, it was obvious that Keane was never going to get a fair shot under Benetez and in my opinion it was the best thing for both him and Ireland to get the hell out of there.
He will be 29 in the summer and he probably only has a few years left at the top of his game, he can't be wasting half a season sitting in the reserves hoping that Betitez will be gone in the summer and what if he doesn't go? time is precious at this stage of his career and for me its a no-brainer to move to a club where you will get first team football. It may be the easy option but IMO it is also the smart option, I also don't give a crap how he is remembered at Anfield, all that matters to me is that he will be sharp for the upcomming qualifiers.
NeilMcD
03/02/2009, 7:22 PM
Great post Morbo, hit the nail on the head.
DeLorean
03/02/2009, 7:25 PM
Great post Morbo, hit the nail on the head.
I'll echo that
Sligo Hornet
03/02/2009, 7:27 PM
would be killer if keane played in that game scored 2 goals and denied liverpool top spot. Would absoloutely love it.
So would I!!!..........apart from the fact I hate Spurs:(
rambler14
03/02/2009, 9:13 PM
It's like he never left.
Robbie will captain Spurs whenever Ledley King isn't playing which won't be very often!
NeilMcD
03/02/2009, 9:20 PM
I don't think that is true, I think King will not play that much at all.
dr_peepee
03/02/2009, 10:05 PM
I'm sure Keane will be heartbroken, I didn't realise ye were an item.
Ha!!:) Yeah!! Put in my place by your razor sharp wit!!!...
We may not have a major tournament looming but we got major qualification games comming up against Italy and Bulgaria and I for one am glad that he will be getting first team football rather than rotting away in the Liverpool reserves.
He was never going to rot in any reserves simply because had Robbie Keane chose to tackle it head on, he had the luxury of a weak squad in terms of depth to force his hand baring in mind Liverpool are in the two cups and the league. But he didn't. Players have stuck it to managers before with less clout than Keane had in this instance. He had hardly rotted in the reserves up to this point. He was no more humiliated by Benitez actions than Alonso, but he handled it differently.
I also don't give a crap how he is remembered at Anfield.
Someone else said that. EB I think... Lets get that one straight. I care that Robbie Keane doesn't care that Liverpool didn't see the best of him. I care that Keane seems comfortable with the media applied tag as unlucky pawn when as much as he was f'cked over by Benitez, Keane clearly underperformed by his own standards.
Is it too much of a stretch to say that in a way it kind of plays back to the cop out when he blamed the media on the late late about Irelands woes. Is he happy with deflection? I'm disapointed in him....
Oh.. And I'll save you the trouble Morbo
OOooOOOOh!! I'd say he's loosing sleep cos your dissapointed in him PeePee.... And you're bald and ye can't spell
EastTerracer
03/02/2009, 10:26 PM
I care that Robbie Keane doesn't care that Liverpool didn't see the best of him. I care that Keane seems comfortable with the media applied tag as unlucky pawn when as much as he was f'cked over by Benitez, Keane clearly underperformed by his own standards.
Is it too much of a stretch to say that in a way it kind of plays back to the cop out when he blamed the media on the late late about Irelands woes. Is he happy with deflection? I'm disapointed in him....
As you've said elsewhere you are perfectly entitled to your opinion on Keane. I agree that he has underperformed but I do think he should have been given more time.
How do you know that Robbie feels comfortable with the media portrayal or that he doesn't care that Liverpool didn't see the best of him? Robbie hasn't said anything other than it was the wrong move for him and you're inferring an awful lot. Benitez said today that Robbie never caused a problem and was very professional.
And, on the Late Late Show thing, watch it again! Robbie said that the players took full responsibility for their performances. He said the media treatment was hard to take and didn't help but he repeated that the players took full responsibility for what happened on the pitch.
I have no problem with you having an opinion and you've expressed it very clearly but some real facts would help your argument instead of suggesting things that may or may not be true.
co. down green
03/02/2009, 10:43 PM
It's like he never left.
Robbie will captain Spurs whenever Ledley King isn't playing which won't be very often!
Harry Redknapp:
"I just felt with Robbie coming in … new face, new impetus ... he's going to be captain," said Redknapp. "He's buzzy and busy, and great around the dressing room. We're a quiet team and if Robbie's got something to say, he says it. He is a real leader and he has the personality to be a captain of Tottenham. He's going to give us an awful lot.
"I had a chat with Ledley this morning. He is still struggling, he's got a hamstring strain now and he won't play on Sunday. I also spoke to Jonathan Woodgate [the vice-captain] and he was fine. He said 'I'll still be the same, I still want to be a leader out there' and that's good.
"Robbie was delighted when I told him. I've always liked him, not only as a player but as a person. He's a terrific character and he's a great lad, too. I got to know him over the years through my son Jamie."
"99.9% of people at the club want him back."
Benitez on his great forward options:
"We have Dirk Kuyt, Ryan Babel and David N'Gog who can play as strikers"
League over :rolleyes:
Ha!!:) Yeah!! Put in my place by your razor sharp wit!!!... Haha don't mind if I do, it was a bit too easy wasn't it. I didn't really need to point out your unhealthy obsession with the guy but it could have been worse, I could have resorted to sarcasm, the lowest form of wit.
He was never going to rot in any reserves simply because had Robbie Keane chose to tackle it head on, he had the luxury of a weak squad in terms of depth to force his hand baring in mind Liverpool are in the two cups and the league. But he didn't. Players have stuck it to managers before with less clout than Keane had in this instance. He had hardly rotted in the reserves up to this point. He was no more humiliated by Benitez actions than Alonso, but he handled it differently.
He may not have rotted in the reserves up to this point but his situation was rapidly deteriorating, he didn't even make the bench against Chelsea, N'Gog had leap frogged him in the pecking order and the fact that Benitez dropped him from the bench on the game before the transfer window closes sends a clear message to me that Benitez wanted him out so Keane may not have had much of a choice in the matter anyway. Like I said I think its too late in Keanes career for him to have to prove his worth to get a game and when your manager is playing guys like N'Gog ahead of you then its obvious he isn't being very objective in his evaluation of your abilities. What is the point in staying when even if you start to hit a bit of form like say scoring 3 goals in 2 games against Arsenal and Bolton you will be dropped for the next game anyway?
Someone else said that. EB I think... Lets get that one straight. I care that Robbie Keane doesn't care that Liverpool didn't see the best of him. I care that Keane seems comfortable with the media applied tag as unlucky pawn when as much as he was f'cked over by Benitez, Keane clearly underperformed by his own standards.
:confused: How exactly do you know what Keane is thinking?
OOooOOOOh!! I'd say he's loosing sleep cos your dissapointed in him PeePee.... And you're bald and ye can't spell
Amazing, how did you know that was what I was thinking, are these the same special powers that allow you to know what Robbie Keane is thinking?
dr_peepee
04/02/2009, 8:20 AM
I agree that he has underperformed but I do think he should have been given more time.
He was in a position to make time for himself. I've said that a million times on this thread. If I didn't believe in Robbie Keane ability I wouldn't be citing that.
I have no problem with you having an opinion and you've expressed it very clearly but some real facts would help your argument instead of suggesting things that may or may not be true.
Facts!! Dude, are ye messing? I can list off every air hit as a fact. I can opine on poor performances. I can rattle off every time he was subbed early as facts and opine that Benitez was treating him unfairly in doing so. I can rattle off the three goal run againts Arsenal and Stoke, and the subsequent dropping???I think everyone that's posted on this thread is on the same page there. So what more facts do you want..... There's a bit of paper with his signature on it at WHL is fact of how Robbie Keane dealt with it all. It all boils down to what I said above.
dr_peepee
04/02/2009, 8:30 AM
He may not have rotted in the reserves up to this point but his situation was rapidly deteriorating, he didn't even make the bench against Chelsea, N'Gog had leap frogged him in the pecking order and the fact that Benitez dropped him from the bench on the game before the transfer window closes sends a clear message to me that Benitez wanted him out so Keane may not have had much of a choice in the matter anyway. Like I said I think its too late in Keanes career for him to have to prove his worth to get a game and when your manager is playing guys like N'Gog ahead of you then its obvious he isn't being very objective in his evaluation of your abilities. What is the point in staying when even if you start to hit a bit of form like say scoring 3 goals in 2 games against Arsenal and Bolton you will be dropped for the next game anyway?
Yeah! I suppose if he felt he wasn't in a position to convince Benitez he was better than Ngog he was right to leave... (Now that's sarcasm)
Eveyone's citing the 3 goals in 2 games. Yeah it is sh!t what happened him but it's not the first time that's happened in the premiership and it's certainly not the first time Benitez has done it. It's how it's dealt with.
:confused: How exactly do you know what Keane is thinking?
Eh? Because he left??
DeLorean
04/02/2009, 9:33 AM
Yeah! I suppose if he felt he wasn't in a position to convince Benitez he was better than Ngog he was right to leave...
Benitez surely knows already that Keane is better than Ngog, that's about as much credit as I'm gonna give him. He wanted rid of him that's pretty obvious.
Eveyone's citing the 3 goals in 2 games. Yeah it is sh!t what happened him but it's not the first time that's happened in the premiership and it's certainly not the first time Benitez has done it. It's how it's dealt with.
Like Peter Crouch? no point in delaying the inevitable, Rafa has said that Keane found it difficult to fit into the system and in this case it's better that he leaves. So he did, simple as...
old git
04/02/2009, 10:22 AM
I heard that jaime o. hara left a number 7 liverpool shirt in his locker, I guess he will never want to see number 7 again anyway.
Liverpool havnt had a good number 7 in awhile
watched setanta the other night lfc tv show with the top 10 no 7 jersey legends at liverpool
harry kewell at no 10 turned it off after that thought they were taking the p**s :D
old git
04/02/2009, 10:32 AM
Benitez was just on BBC radio saying that Keane couldn't handle the pressure of a big club.
It's not as if Benitez did anything to take the pressure off him. My opinion of Benitez is even lower today than it was yesterday.
I think any no. 10 type forward would struggle at Liverpool under Benitez. It's all about Torres and Gerrard up there with no room for anyone else with a strong personality.
Dirk Kuyt is mediocrity personified (though his early season form was very good). Ryan Babbel is a talented player who has done eff all at Liverpool and Benitez' full back purchases have typically been rubbish. It seems that Benitez is prepared to treat some players differently to others.
By the way, Robbie is nowhere near a favourite Irish player of mine so I'm resaonably objective.
a sight at liverpool robbie will be glad to see the back of benitiz
making another subsitition 1275
Closed Account 2
04/02/2009, 11:21 AM
Benitez on his great forward options:
"We have Dirk Kuyt, Ryan Babel and David N'Gog who can play as strikers"
League over :rolleyes:
He also mentioned Nabil El Zahar, Daniel Pacheco and even said he would play Youssi Benayoun as a support striker. Honestly, with the latter I really do think Benitez is clueless. Benayoun is so physically brittle he struggles as a wide midfielder, the chances of him suceeding as a support striker, against hurley burley Premier League defenders like Hangeland, Vidic, Woodgate, Laursen etc is absurd.
I think N'Gog could become a good player in about 2-3 years I think he's on a level with Pongolle when he was at Liverpool, on the way to becoming a good striker but needs more experience.
I've only seen a few Liverpool matches this season, but of the ones I saw (Everton at Anfield - twice, Bolton at the Reebok, Atletico Madrid away, PSV away) Keane looked decent enough, he scored a good goal in the Calderon admittedly he tried to do a back heel later on that went wrong, he set up a goal for N'Gog in Eindhoven with a great chipped through ball from almost the half way line. I certainly think that he has been on a par with Berbatov in terms of performances.
Personally I think a lot of the momentum about the move came about through Liverpool's current cash flow problems. It's a similar situation to Man City at the very start of the season when Shinawatra was failing and just before the Middle Easterners took over. They had a mini fire sale with the likes of Steven Ireland going to Sunderland (it was pulled at the last minute) and Ćorluka was snapped up by Spurs then in a similar situation (despite being City's best player last season and being very good for the Croats in the summer)...
DeLorean
04/02/2009, 11:37 AM
Benayoun is so physically brittle
That guy could seriously do with some bacan & cabbage with some buttery spuds alright. He's really workman like at Liverpool compared to when he was at West Ham where he was more of a flair player. Squad player at best though.
elroy
04/02/2009, 12:36 PM
I think Keane has the potential to score more goals for Spurs than in the past. Keane is a player who likes to made runs behind defence latching onto a through ball and I think a player like Modric in midfield suits Keane-if he can build up an understanding with him, they should combine well.
NeilMcD
04/02/2009, 1:53 PM
That guy could seriously do with some bacan & cabbage with some buttery spuds alright. He's really workman like at Liverpool compared to when he was at West Ham where he was more of a flair player. Squad player at best though.
Now now, I don't think that it is right that a jewish player like Benayoun should be make eat bacon. :)
NeilMcD
04/02/2009, 2:05 PM
You also said that Benitez would pick him and then he was not in the squad and then you said he would not be leaving and he left. Maybe you should start questioning your judgement on this issue.
DeLorean
04/02/2009, 3:08 PM
Now now, I don't think that it is right that a jewish player like Benayoun should be make eat bacon. :)
Shame on me, although I had something even more controversial written before I decided to edit it as I felt it might been taken in bad taste, given his herritage.
DeLorean
04/02/2009, 3:10 PM
You also said that Benitez would pick him and then he was not in the squad and then you said he would not be leaving and he left. Maybe you should start questioning your judgement on this issue.
In fairness I wouldn't have expected the captaincy to be thrown at him just like that either. Especially when they already had a perfectly good vice captain in Woodgate. Gareth Barry wasn't just given the captaincy at Villa when his Pool deal feel through for example.
eirebhoy
04/02/2009, 6:24 PM
In fairness I wouldn't have expected the captaincy to be thrown at him just like that either. Especially when they already had a perfectly good vice captain in Woodgate. Gareth Barry wasn't just given the captaincy at Villa when his Pool deal feel through for example.
I think Redknapp is trying to make his team believe they're starting from scratch. Get rid of the negative confidence. Like when a new manager joins a team.
co. down green
04/02/2009, 9:58 PM
Great result for Benitez tonight :)
Inside Man
04/02/2009, 10:41 PM
Great result for Benitez tonight :)
The sooner that man goes the sooner Liverpool are moving forward. The man is a joke. Driven on by sheer ruthlessness for power. That was what the whole Robbie Keane saga was about, Power. It wasn't Benitez that wanted him and that is the reason he wouldn't defend him at any opportunity or even give him the proper chance. Indeed we beat Chelski at the weekend, but by God you heard it here first, over the next 2-3 months that club is going to crumble and its all for the best. They need to build that once great club from scratch because it is full of wasters. Benitez the main man. I feel for Robbie. He got caught in a power stuggle and unfortunatly for all Liverpool fans and Keane Benitez won the battle, but he'll lose the war.
co. down green
04/02/2009, 11:17 PM
The sooner that man goes the sooner Liverpool are moving forward. The man is a joke. Driven on by sheer ruthlessness for power. That was what the whole Robbie Keane saga was about, Power. It wasn't Benitez that wanted him and that is the reason he wouldn't defend him at any opportunity or even give him the proper chance. Indeed we beat Chelski at the weekend, but by God you heard it here first, over the next 2-3 months that club is going to crumble and its all for the best. They need to build that once great club from scratch because it is full of wasters. Benitez the main man. I feel for Robbie. He got caught in a power stuggle and unfortunatly for all Liverpool fans and Keane Benitez won the battle, but he'll lose the war.
I care little for Benitez, less for Liverpool and my only interest in the whole saga is seeing Robbie Keane playing regular Premiership football, which will hopefully help him to perform for Ireland against Georgia & Bulgaria in the next two home qualifiers & give us a decent chance of qualification & maybe making April fools of the Italians in Bari on April 1st.
Colbert Report
05/02/2009, 1:02 AM
Gerrard and Torres both subbed off injured today against Everton. F'ing Benitez!
endabob1
05/02/2009, 6:41 AM
I think Keane has the potential to score more goals for Spurs than in the past. Keane is a player who likes to made runs behind defence latching onto a through ball and I think a player like Modric in midfield suits Keane-if he can build up an understanding with him, they should combine well.
Don't see it working myself tbh, Keane likes to drop off a big striker (Pavlova) and seems to have happy knack of getting in the way of midfielders who are playing further forward, my guess is Modric will be moved wide left or left out which is a shame because he is a very tidy ball player.
third policeman
05/02/2009, 8:19 AM
The sooner that man goes the sooner Liverpool are moving forward. The man is a joke. Driven on by sheer ruthlessness for power. That was what the whole Robbie Keane saga was about, Power. It wasn't Benitez that wanted him and that is the reason he wouldn't defend him at any opportunity or even give him the proper chance. Indeed we beat Chelski at the weekend, but by God you heard it here first, over the next 2-3 months that club is going to crumble and its all for the best. They need to build that once great club from scratch because it is full of wasters. Benitez the main man. I feel for Robbie. He got caught in a power stuggle and unfortunatly for all Liverpool fans and Keane Benitez won the battle, but he'll lose the war.
Agree totally. It was absolutely inevitable and deliciously ironic that Gerrard should break down and Torres limp his way through last night's game. How on earth can Benitez suggest that Gerrard is playing too many games when he has just got rid of the only other player capable of filling the "behind Torres" role. His treatment of Keane was vindictive, petty and shameful. "You have to act quickly to deal with players who dont fit the system" So what about Lucas, Dossena, Kuyt ......
I am a Liverpool supporter but I was actually glad to see Everton win last night, and so too, I imagine, was Robbie.
Agree totally. It was absolutely inevitable and deliciously ironic that Gerrard should break down and Torres limp his way through last night's game. How on earth can Benitez suggest that Gerrard is playing too many games when he has just got rid of the only other player capable of filling the "behind Torres" role. His treatment of Keane was vindictive, petty and shameful. "You have to act quickly to deal with players who dont fit the system" So what about Lucas, Dossena, Kuyt ......
I am a Liverpool supporter but I was actually glad to see Everton win last night, and so too, I imagine, was Robbie.
Delighted to see them lose, ironically i think the way the game was set up with about 20 mins to go wouldve suited Robbie. The guy that was on Setanta Sports news after the game (cant remember his name) pretty much made the point that if Benitez is going to be vindicated for selling their second best striker when they have no one in reserve purely to make a point to the board then he needs to win something this season. The league is gone imo so its only the CL, if he doesnt win that........................
geysir
05/02/2009, 10:54 AM
Next up, Torres breaks a leg while falling over his cat.
Not that I would be pleased if any harm came to the cat.
elroy
05/02/2009, 10:58 AM
Never miss a genuine opportunity...........
geysir
05/02/2009, 11:20 AM
This whole transfer has the makings of a planned scam to scuttle the scousers. All that's missing was Robbie donning one of those black permed curly wigs.
endabob1
05/02/2009, 1:29 PM
Gerrard out for 3 weeks with a torn hamstring, if it's genuinely torn 3 weeks is a very short recovery time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7871386.stm
You think Rafa might have a few regrets this morning
NeilMcD
05/02/2009, 1:40 PM
Its its torn its at least 6 weeks if he is back in 3 it was not torn in the first place.
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