View Full Version : Shame on Cork and Drogheda
tiktok
09/02/2009, 6:28 PM
And your available money to spend next season would be the exact same had you come to long term deals to pay all creditors 100% of the money you owe them ??
The only reason Shels didn't go into examinership is because you would have been forced to sell Tolka. I'm sick to death of bitter Shels fans complaining about a legal route to rescue a company that over 70 businesses in trouble in Ireland are using today, you're paying back 100% of what you owe, well done, I couldn't give a ****.
I've already said we got a sporting advantage in response to one of the numerous posts you've written stating the exact same thing, I (and a lot of other CCFC supporters) expected to be relegated.
We weren't and the fact that we weren't is completely outside of our control.
Get over it ffs.
Both Cork City and Drogehda broke many rules this year?
Do you think that's new information?
DmanDmythDledge
09/02/2009, 6:30 PM
Regardless of what Fran Gavin says or thinks - the 2009 Licencing rules are already laid out, and don't stipultate what he says there.
Didn't the rules state that the punishment can be anything from a fine to relegation? So they could relegate somebody next season for entering examinership if they like.
Bald Student
09/02/2009, 6:37 PM
Didn't the rules state that the punishment can be anything from a fine to relegation? So they could relegate somebody next season for entering examinership if they like.
That's correct but calling the existing rule a 'new rule' like Gavin did is not correct.
Celdrog
09/02/2009, 7:54 PM
The only reason Shels didn't go into examinership is because you would have been forced to sell Tolka. I'm sick to death of bitter Shels fans complaining about a legal route to rescue a company that over 70 businesses in trouble in Ireland are using today, you're paying back 100% of what you owe, well done, I couldn't give a ****.
I've already said we got a sporting advantage in response to one of the numerous posts you've written stating the exact same thing, I (and a lot of other CCFC supporters) expected to be relegated.
We weren't and the fact that we weren't is completely outside of our control.
Get over it ffs.
Both Cork City and Drogehda broke many rules this year?
Do you think that's new information?Hear hear.
blueblood
09/02/2009, 9:04 PM
Knowing the FAI they'll probably fine clubs who go into examinership :rolleyes:
Buile Shuibhne
10/02/2009, 5:31 AM
Didn't the rules state that the punishment can be anything from a fine to relegation? So they could relegate somebody next season for entering examinership if they like.
Yes but the rules in the licencing manual were very discretionary, with no definitive sanctions for particular offences. Fran Gavin didn't give any specific details of any new rules.
Delaney since did just yesterday, when he said:
“We are looking at the convenience of entering examinership,” said FAI CEO John Delaney. “There will be a cascading penalty for what you finally settle on after examership. There is currently a 10-point penalty for entering examinership, as happened with Cork City and Drogheda United last season.
“In future, if you only settle 50 per cent of your debt then you will be hit with a certain penalty deduction. If you settle only 40 per cent then the penalty will be higher. That will be up to a maximum of 30 extra points. So that means the total penalty could be 40 points.
“It is based on the English model, but I hope we don’t see it again. I hope to make it that it’s not convenient for clubs who may be fourth in the league and decide we can drop 10 points and still stay up. The ramifications will be a lot tougher now.
“The licensing decisions will be issued on February 16th, the day after the club licensing committee meets,” added Delaney. “We are hoping that next Sunday will bring full clarity.” © 2009 The Irish Times
These new stricter regulations will be included in the new participation agreement for 2009.
holidaysong
10/02/2009, 10:58 AM
Next Monday is D-Day for the licences then! :)
Interesting, the FAI seem to acknowledge that allowing Cork and Drogheda to continue in the premier is wrong, but this seems to indicate that nothing will be done about it.
Interesting, the FAI seem to acknowledge that allowing Cork and Drogheda to continue in the premier is wrong, but this seems to indicate that nothing will be done about it.
Too little, too late, by the FAI. Who'd have thunk it?
passerrby
10/02/2009, 12:29 PM
Next Monday is D-Day for the licences then! :)
and the remaining shreads of credibility that licensing had
BulmersKid
11/02/2009, 5:56 PM
Interesting, the FAI seem to acknowledge that allowing Cork and Drogheda to continue in the premier is wrong, but this seems to indicate that nothing will be done about it.
Where did they indicate that allowing Cork and Droheda to continue in the premier was wrong?
Where did they indicate that allowing Cork and Droheda to continue in the premier was wrong?
It's the first time i ever heard of it :eek: .
brianw82
11/02/2009, 10:20 PM
Where did they indicate that allowing Cork and Droheda to continue in the premier was wrong?
Ever heard of reading between the lines?
BulmersKid
12/02/2009, 7:47 AM
Ever heard of reading between the lines?
So they didn't say it?
Why would the FAI wish to massively increase the sanctions for entering examinership and talk about the convenience of it unless they felt that getting off with a slap on the wrists was wrong?
Under the proposed punishments both CCFC and DUFC would have been relegated. Join the dots FFS.
Celdrog
12/02/2009, 8:35 AM
proposed punishments Says it all really
higgins
12/02/2009, 3:17 PM
The only reason Shels didn't go into examinership is because you would have been forced to sell Tolka. I'm sick to death of bitter Shels fans complaining about a legal route to rescue a company that over 70 businesses in trouble in Ireland are using today, you're paying back 100% of what you owe, well done, I couldn't give a ****.
I've already said we got a sporting advantage in response to one of the numerous posts you've written stating the exact same thing, I (and a lot of other CCFC supporters) expected to be relegated.
We weren't and the fact that we weren't is completely outside of our control.
Get over it ffs.
Both Cork City and Drogehda broke many rules this year?
Do you think that's new information?
So its your problem that you don't like to read the same thing over and over !
Ignore it if you want,, I'm simply stating what happened. You agree with it,, great for you.
I'm also sick of having to reply saying that I agree fully with examinership as a legal way to rescue a company.
What I still have a problem with is the FAI and their lack of control over the sporting side of things after examinership. They had the power to act, they still do but so far only Shels for a crime that wasn't half as bad have been punished.
Call it bitter if you like.
Whatever keeps you happy.
I simply see it as fact.
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