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pete
09/12/2008, 8:56 PM
Very easy to see which businesses use non-Irish ham & pork now. Given the problems Belgian had in 1999 kind of ironic that local sandwich shop (Fresh) using ham from there. Didn't look too closely to see where it sources from but Tesco had selected cuts of ham on sale today - think it was the "Tesco Value" range.

Ringo
10/12/2008, 1:48 PM
The European Food Safety Authority has concluded that there is little concern for human health arising from the discovery of dioxin in some Irish pork.


Processors have been demanding a multi-million euro package from the Government to assist them with the recall of pork products and with the storage of pig carcasses once processing resumes.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1210/pork.html


Tell the processors to open back up start selling again & stop looking for handouts:mad:

noby
10/12/2008, 1:52 PM
'Handouts' is a bit simplistic, though. The Govt. ordered the recall of all meat, at least 90% of which was perfectly safe, and the halt in processing. I think i would be looking to be compensated if it was me.

mypost
10/12/2008, 2:43 PM
Could this be the straw that leads to government collapse?

No. But the Minister for Agriculture should be forced to resign over the scandal.

dahamsta
10/12/2008, 3:56 PM
Who made the actual decision, that's the question.

pete
10/12/2008, 4:09 PM
No. But the Minister for Agriculture should be forced to resign over the scandal.

TBH I have never noticed him before but at a time when you need strong leadership Brendan Smith inspires no confidence & does not appear to be in charge. I heard one journalist on TV say the Minister was like a guy chairing a press conference (i.e. he decided who got to speak but said nothing himself). Seems the hardest thing government Ministers had to do in recent years was decide which car to buy each year but now they have real decisions to make.

mypost
10/12/2008, 5:41 PM
Hundreds of jobs lost, pork businesses having to close, millions of € of perfectly edible stock lost (as a precaution). Irish Pork exports hit from China to Germany. And that's before we mention the knock-on effects on farmers, butchers and retailers here.

Somebody must be held accountable and be forced to resign for all that shameful waste. We have a Minister for Agriculture. This crisis happened on his watch, so he bears the overall responsibility for a lot of it imo, and therefore he must go imo.

pete
10/12/2008, 11:02 PM
Somebody must be held accountable and be forced to resign for all that shameful waste. We have a Minister for Agriculture. This crisis happened on his watch, so he bears the overall responsibility for a lot of it imo, and therefore he must go imo.

He is FF, they do not resign. Is the pork ban or the initial inspection failings the worse offence? Was it the Minister for Agriculture that initiated the ban?

Greens have been very quiet possibly because EPA reports to Minister for Environment.

Senior department officials must surely be the line for sacking for inspections failings & tracing system sham. None of these automatic performance bonuses.

Ringo
11/12/2008, 6:13 AM
No. But the Minister for Agriculture should be forced to resign over the scandal.
That would be a bit pointless. The FSAI forced the government to recall the meat. Where does compensation stop? The consumers, the hotels, the retailers, the farmers? If the processers want to re-gain confidence of the consumers they should be putting it back out asap. One could argue that it’s the processers looking for cheaper meat that brought this about. At the moment the only one that should step down is Boss Hogg from the place that produced the bad feed.


Agreement reached for pig processors
Thursday, 11 December 2008 07:20

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1211/pork.html

pete
11/12/2008, 10:32 AM
So it is decided that pork producers now get 180m compensation from the tax payer.

Taken from RTE:


The pork industry is the fourth biggest in the agriculture sector and is worth around €400 million per year.

Those numbers do not add up. How can you get almost half the yearly revenue as a handout? The amount of products refund through retailers will be relatively small as few people will keep receipts. There will e almost no affect on Christmas market as fresh hams would not be sold yet anyway.

Also the farmers are looking for E1m compensation for each affected farm. Pig farms must also have very high yearly turnover if that is correct.

:confused:

Newryrep
11/12/2008, 11:04 AM
That would be a bit pointless. The FSAI forced the government to recall the meat. Where does compensation stop? The consumers, the hotels, the retailers, the farmers? If the processers want to re-gain confidence of the consumers they should be putting it back out asap. One could argue that it’s the processers looking for cheaper meat that brought this about. At the moment the only one that should step down is Boss Hogg from the place that produced the bad feed.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1211/pork.html

Exactly, an agricultural supplier fks up and suddenly its the government fault and the processors (who couldnt lay the people off fast enough which I assume they will now have to rehire) want compensation you couldnt make it up.

Agriculture - It appears if anything goes wrong claim compo be it weather, feeding animals to vegetarian animals, foot and mouth etc etc