New Manager for 2009 season

[the sub]

Its sad to see a guy that lives breaths football and looks afer the young players IN Cobh who would not get a chance otherwise.

Who do you think will take over from Mr Football
Martin Cambridge or what about Colin O Brien
Darragh Burke or Alan O Sullivan
Our do you think.. can you afford a manager from outside Cobh.

Just thinking outside box will you have a team in 1st Div LOI next year or will the team go MSL.

[rambler14]

John Caulfield or Dave Hill.

If we get investors in the choices might be different and regardless if we do or not we will DEFINITLEY be playing LOI football next season.

[ramsfan]

eddie o halloran and pakie kelly, real football men and real clubmen

[Rambling Along]

I'd be inclined to give Eddie a shot with Packie as his assistant and they would be my stand-out choices if we were to go local.
Billy Cronin up at Rockmount would be another great option IMO.

If we get investors a more high profile list of candidates would be possible but high profile don't mix with 1st Division do they!

[luka]

Eddie would be a great choice and would get my vote however I have a feeling he might not be interested.

[marty]

Caulfield would get my vote,however i dont think we may be choosing our manager for next year our club isnt a massive attraction at the mo and their could be quite an exodus of players to come.Tonights Echo claiming Hendo could still be here cant argue against that choice.

[don ramo]

Tonights Echo claiming Hendo could still be here cant argue against that choice.

i think he would needs a lot of reasureance that he will be given the help and resources needed to do his job, the way it should be done, and not have all the bickering and ****e that has marred our season continue for another year,

so it is extremely unlikely that he will stay :mad:

[ramblers]

It would be good to see Caufield or Cronin in the division to see what they could do. I would like to see Dave Hill back I would think he has gained a lot of experience with Damo at city!!

[bellavistaman]

I honestly cant see hendo managing us for another few years anyway.

As for eddie and packie combo, think eddie has work commitments which would rule him out.

Martin Cambridge Colin O'Brien would be top quality IMO, wouldnt mind that at all.

And im a massive fan of hill, always was!!

[MainManRam]

I'd love to see Packie envolved. An absolute legend and I don't use that term lightly. Would be great to have some local envolvement even if it meant at no. 2. It really is going to be tough to find the right man for the job given the present climate. Just hope we get the right man at the right price;)

[4th-div-are-we]

he's got no hair but we dont care!!
davey davey hill
he knows the score in cobh,would be respected if he joined and we already have songs about him...:ball:

how about jason kabia??:rolleyes:;)

[offside rule]

he's got no hair but we dont care!!
davey davey hill
he knows the score in cobh,would be respected if he joined and we already have songs about him...:ball:

how about jason kabia?

Kabia - jesus no way, he couldnt manage Mallow, got ran out of Corinthians and i dont even no if he's dtill in this Country!!!

Colin O'Brien player/manager, maybe with another ex-experienced player alongside him (ie, Derek Daly or Dave Hill or Caulfield)

[the sub]

Kabia - jesus no way, he couldnt manage Mallow, got ran out of Corinthians and i dont even no if he's dtill in this Country!!!

Colin O'Brien player/manager, maybe with another ex-experienced player alongside him (ie, Derek Daly or Dave Hill or Caulfield)

Trust me Hill is the wrong man

[Rambling Along]

Trust me Hill is the wrong man

As is Colin O'Brien IMO.

[don ramo]

doesnt matter lads we wont have a say, hill was bad in his time, but he openly admits ha got it wrong with ramblers, i wouldnt mind giving him another crack off it, sure what do we have to loose

[the sub]

Everything... If you undo all the good work that ur manager did bring a known bad manager u go back to where u were a few years ago. You need to keep going forward and thrust me the hill is the wrong man, you have cambridge . Burke. Plus one or two others well worth a chance. Dont cambridge hold an uafa B badges

[don ramo]

Everything... If you undo all the good work that ur manager did bring a known bad manager u go back to where u were a few years ago. You need to keep going forward and thrust me the hill is the wrong man, you have cambridge . Burke. Plus one or two others well worth a chance. Dont cambridge hold an uafa B badges

true, while i would like to see what he could do he could set us back years, i like darragh but cant see him taking the reigns just yet maybe martin alright

[marty]

Look,we need a manager who can work off a shoestring budget and someone with him who knows the talent in Cobh.Lets not cod ourselves into thinking we are are big club we are not and wont ever be until the heart is back in the club and everyone is on the same playing field as said someone local needs to be involved on some level but lets not give it to anybody just for the sake of having someone...

Also it has been reported that "clubman" N.O.D and a tribe of local businessmen is on to hendo about coaxing him to re-consider,im not sure what that means but if we have ppl who are going to invest in the team next year than we have learned nothing and will sink further into debt,put the money into youth pitches--ffs Avondale,Douglass Hall,Rockmount,Midleton,Youghal are just some of the MSL teams with facilities we can only dream of and im not kiddin.

[rambler14]

I forgot about Eddie's work commitments so it more or less rules him out.

I don't know why, but I really feel that Daragh would make an excellent manager....................Daragh for Ramblers! (I wonder who his assistant will be!:D)

[the sub]

Ur right they all have pitches ect but dont travel to dublin, sligo, galway, derry ect mid week miss days from work most week and loose pay. Loi players have to be paid for their time cost of overnights transport some one have to pay all the cost. If these clubs had to pay out 10k a week they would not have what they got . Most of loi clubs have money troubles so you cant compare like for like between msl v loi

[marty]

No but their are some clubs in LOI that have facilities and we dont,we seem to be startin from the top and tryin to buy success first without anyone thinkin of failure.If we had a local team on a minimum wage and i mean minimum we would get the same misreable attendences we are getting now.John/Conor Meade,Chubbs,Barrett,Daly I bet would all play for their hometown club without big wages and theirs plenty youth available in the town to add to this,we are heading to the first division we could compete in this division with a local side.

[don ramo]

all well and good marty, but how do you build a team when you cant even get a traing pitch, on an island with a few hundred fields, we cant even get a corner, even if we try nobody is realistic, they all expect property prices for recreational land which is and should be much cheaper, what do we need, our last training pitch was 2 acres (but the area was much larger as we didnt own all the enclosed area),

[the sub]

No but their are some clubs in LOI that have facilities and we dont,we seem to be startin from the top and tryin to buy success first without anyone thinkin of failure.If we had a local team on a minimum wage and i mean minimum we would get the same misreable attendences we are getting now.John/Conor Meade,Chubbs,Barrett,Daly I bet would all play for their hometown club without big wages and theirs plenty youth available in the town to add to this,we are heading to the first division we could compete in this division with a local side.


I totaly agree with you, but with people loosing pay or holiday from work they have to get payed for lost time. If a player takes a day from work he would loose approx 80 euro plus he must pay for his fuel to get to training twice a week plus match day so they need to get paid 150 euro plus his match fee total 250 euro for the week. Then the player must pay tax & p.r.s.i so he is lucky to take home 150.
What do your average player recieve 300 euro a week maybe then take tax ect.. it would not cover a night out.
Your main problem is support from businesses and fans not enough through the gates to cover your weekly expenses.
I was going to say set up a fundrasing commette but what happened last week I think that will be a no go area.
Next year you need players to play for nothing only expeses which are tax free so only players you mentioned above plus the reserve players that travelled accross the country this season for no money or expenses.
Clear your debths and start afresh in 2010 season as a professional club.

[marty]

My sentiments exactly EXPENSES ONLY,im just saying we have absolutly nothing to gain from pumping money in now when you look at what last season cost us (if they ever give us an actual figure on that) we would be much better off clearing our debt and letting it publicly known we are looking for pitches

[bellavistaman]

I forgot about Eddie's work commitments so it more or less rules him out.

I don't know why, but I really feel that Daragh would make an excellent manager....................Daragh for Ramblers! (I wonder who his assistant will be!:D)

We kind of slipped up a small bit Rambling Along/Ram14 didnt we:D:D

http://onefootballforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14688

[Sam_Heggy]

We kind of slipped up a small bit Rambling Along/Ram14 didnt we:D

http://onefootballforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14688

Ah-ha, knew it all along :D
Good work Detective Bella :cool:

[offside rule]

We kind of slipped up a small bit Rambling Along/Ram14 didnt we:D:D

http://onefootballforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14688

Wats dat about, hiding behind another alias!, if uve something to say - say it as R14.
You were even having converstaions with yourself and then backing it up with agreements from your alter ego! . . . weirdo!!!

[the sub]

Wats dat about, hiding behind another alias!, if uve something to say - say it as R14.
You were even having converstaions with yourself and then backing it up with agreements from your alter ego! . . . weirdo!!!


I hope he pays twice going into St Colemans Park for games. HE'S BEHIND YOU

[6yardpunisha]

i forgot about eddie's work commitments so it more or less rules him out.

I don't know why, but i really feel that daragh would make an excellent manager....................daragh for ramblers! (i wonder who his assistant will be!:d)


your some knob all the same:d

[jfarlo]

Just with regard to a training ground or pitch for the youths, Iwas recently speaking to a member of the gaa and he informed me that ramblers have full use of a pitch up by the water tower. This pitch is next to the gaa's pitch and has been provided by the local builder. The pitch is now overgrown and unused. Why is this so...

[jamesd]

I know I have remained off here for sometime but I feel it appropriate that at this stage I salute all the players for really giving their all in trying to stay in Premier League Football. Over the past number of weeks we have all been taken on a rollercoaster ride, and while we didn't stay up, I want to thank all involved for been so professional in what were difficult circumstances off the field.

In looking forward to next season, I would like to suggest that we look at recruiting more "local" players. Too many local players have been let go in the past for various reasons, but if we were to take a leaf out of Galway's success, it is that they brought in more local players for less money and more importantly created a local attmosphere. There are many talented players around and I believe with the right approach, they would be delighted to don the claret and blue.

[rambler14]

I was only try to have a laugh to try and brighten the place up but no ye wrecked it!:(, the constant pressure and conspiracy theories got to me:(............anyway don't care move on next thread!:D

[the sub]

Just with regard to a training ground or pitch for the youths, Iwas recently speaking to a member of the gaa and he informed me that ramblers have full use of a pitch up by the water tower. This pitch is next to the gaa's pitch and has been provided by the local builder. The pitch is now overgrown and unused. Why is this so...

well one word dangerous .. I went to a game a year or so ago its not fit to put animals on it. It falls a a 60* angle it uneven a slope and l thonk the youth league refused it as a pitch

[marty]

Well surely with the building trade the way it is we could look into buying that pitch and make it playable,im glad a few others here agree locals are the way to go and as i saig b4 we prob have better attendences with a Cobh based team

[chimpster]

Well surely with the building trade the way it is we could look into buying that pitch and make it playable,im glad a few others here agree locals are the way to go and as i saig b4 we prob have better attendences with a Cobh based team

Oh yeah, coz there SO much money sloshing around the club right now :rolleyes:

[the sub]

Well surely with the building trade the way it is we could look into buying that pitch and make it playable,im glad a few others here agree locals are the way to go and as i saig b4 we prob have better attendences with a Cobh based team

U need to spent a least 1000k just to level it and the same to make it playable with a proper playing surface. If they had the money and now the lotto grants are being stopped so u will have to come up with all the money

[marty]

Oh yeah, coz there SO much money sloshing around the club right now :rolleyes:


Apparantly the club is in talks with local businesmen about rebuilding for next year this money would be much better spent on facilities rather than a first div team,great been a smart ass i wonder if your the same in person

[don ramo]

well lads we could ask the FAI for a loan, and put the ground up as collateral, develop a good facility that can be used by the community, say artificial pitches, one big one, and 3 or 4 7-a-side ones, with a proper full size regular pitch, you would make money renting out the pitches, and you only need the full normal pitch for training 2 nights a week so it could be used for other things,

obviously funding is the issue, but this is what drogheda had planned, till it fell through, its the right idea, look at the long term it will pay itself off in time, you just have to be carefull with your money,

[rambler14]

well lads we could ask the FAI for a loan, and put the ground up as collateral, develop a good facility that can be used by the community, say artificial pitches, one big one, and 3 or 4 7-a-side ones, with a proper full size regular pitch, you would make money renting out the pitches, and you only need the full normal pitch for training 2 nights a week so it could be used for other things,

obviously funding is the issue, but this is what drogheda had planned, till it fell through, its the right idea, look at the long term it will pay itself off in time, you just have to be carefull with your money,

A sensible solution.

Now isn't that better than all the fussin and a feuding??

[chimpster]

Apparantly the club is in talks with local businesmen about rebuilding for next year this money would be much better spent on facilities rather than a first div team,great been a smart ass i wonder if your the same in person

Jesus you bite easy! :eek: Relax bud, i'm just voicin' an opinion.

Ok, so it would be great for the club to develop this pitch. But first priority has to be paying off debts, whatever money comes in for next season will have to go on making the club solvent first. Then we can look at development work...

[don ramo]

Jesus you bite easy! :eek: Relax bud, i'm just voicin' an opinion.

Ok, so it would be great for the club to develop this pitch. But first priority has to be paying off debts, whatever money comes in for next season will have to go on making the club solvent first. Then we can look at development work...

but you see devolping the pitch would save us a fortune, so its a catch 22 id say take the hit and get the pitch first, or fundraise somehow to get it done,

[ballsac7]

Can't imagine Caulfield being interested in the Cobh job, by all accounts he gets handy money for expenses at Avondale already.:D

[Redshanks]

I was recently contacted about the pitch up at Carrignafoy. Aparently some youths have been using lit ately as a hot-rod driving track. That problem can be overcome as could the problem of the slope. I dont think the slope is as severe or as dangerous as some make out. Niether do i believe it would cost 100k to recitfy. What ever happened to voluntary help and effort? The sort that the GAA has done for years.
We all know peole with the appropriate machinery who would help out -and dare I say it- a few well planned fundraisers would pay for the materials. Its easier I know, to make excuses to avoid doing something than to get up off our arses and just do it!

[how is he]

it would be great to see an all cobh team next year. isn't it time the 3 soccer clubs in cobh got together and agreed on a way forward. the top 16 players to play in a first team, the next 16 on a second team and so on.

there's bound to be obstacles to overcome in coming to any sort of agreement but surely its worth a try?

[Ram72]

For the club to move forward, it needs to restructure. At the moment there is no structure in place. Maybe when the structures are put in place the club can move forward and realise it's potental.

[don ramo]

it would be great to see an all cobh team next year. isn't it time the 3 soccer clubs in cobh got together and agreed on a way forward. the top 16 players to play in a first team, the next 16 on a second team and so on.

there's bound to be obstacles to overcome in coming to any sort of agreement but surely its worth a try?

will never happen and should never happen, its good to have a core of local talent, but were not in MSL, there simply isnt the pool of players available and willing to compete in LOI football, it should never happen as players that will make the club better wont be bought in cause there outsiders, yet would be a better addition to the team than any player in it,

murray and gutsie for example, our central defense, probably the best ever pairing in my memory, both wouldnt be here if this idea was taken onboard,

have a core of local players but not a squad of them

[Rambler1]

George Wilshaw as manager with Franko as Team Coach

[bellavistaman]

will never happen and should never happen, its good to have a core of local talent, but were not in MSL, there simply isnt the pool of players available and willing to compete in LOI football, it should never happen as players that will make the club better wont be bought in cause there outsiders, yet would be a better addition to the team than any player in it,

murray and gutsie for example, our central defense, probably the best ever pairing in my memory, both wouldnt be here if this idea was taken onboard,

have a core of local players but not a squad of them

Agree with the mority of that tbf

[the sub]

What about cronin ex waterford manager !!!

[Ram72]

will never happen and should never happen, its good to have a core of local talent, but were not in MSL, there simply isnt the pool of players available and willing to compete in LOI football, it should never happen as players that will make the club better wont be bought in cause there outsiders, yet would be a better addition to the team than any player in it,

murray and gutsie for example, our central defense, probably the best ever pairing in my memory, both wouldnt be here if this idea was taken onboard,

have a core of local players but not a squad of them
Totally agree, but we might not have a choice in what players we have and where they come from. Will players like Murray and Gutsie stay around if a top flight team come calling. :confused: