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jinxy lilywhite
10/09/2008, 12:17 PM
Can't stand Byrne myself. Thinks he's the real pro some pro now isn't he. Hope Drogs get him for this.

How really can they get him other than sack him. In all seriousness he will be playing for another club next season earning probably just the same as he is now. He has a nice rest now until January.

Spoons
10/09/2008, 12:22 PM
Not necessarily...if this is proven then Byrne may get a ban for life!!

A face
10/09/2008, 12:26 PM
Not necessarily...if this is proven then Byrne may get a ban for life!!

Will we hear from Stephen if that happens i wonder?

HarpsinDublin
10/09/2008, 12:37 PM
Not necessarily...if this is proven then Byrne may get a ban for life!!

How will he get a ban for life? It cannot be illegal for a player to say to another player How would you like to play for [insert team name].

Nope Byrne will get his knuckles rapped by Drogheda and sign for Bohs (or possibly Pat's the only two teams that can afford him) on an inflated wage.

Dodge
10/09/2008, 12:44 PM
Fine player. Born leader too.

Know a friend of his and his mates gave him massive abuse of the "despicable rant". Hugely embarressed by it. He actually credits kenny for saving his career as he was about to give it up when toiling away with Home Farm (in whatever guise they were then)

Every manager in the country (or the world really) taps up players. Thats just the way it works (and has done for decades). Players in Drogheda obviously feeling a little bit nervous about the future so of course they're going to talk about moves.

Be amazed if he wasn't at Bohs next year

Buile Shuibhne
10/09/2008, 12:52 PM
Can't understand what all the fuss is about.

Tapping-up is an integral part of football - like it or not - it happens.

The football world is very small in the League of Ireland.

Most players and coaching staff keep in touch with each other after moving clubs.

It's quite common for a manager to 'enquire about the availability' of player(s) through an inside third party.

Rocky77
10/09/2008, 2:00 PM
Every manager in the country (or the world really) taps up players

Cough *Paiso* cough ;)

WindmillWarrior
10/09/2008, 2:04 PM
Its been obvious this season that Byrne hasn't given 2 f*cks about playing for Drogheda. Some of his diplays have been nothing short of disgraceful. His mind has obviously been on a big gay orgy with all his old bum chums at Bohs. And instead of playing out his, I'm sure very healthy contract, what does he do? He further unsettles an already unsettled squad in such underhand ways.
Actions of a born leader, a fine player? No. Looks more like the actions of an utter c*nt to me.

Dodge
10/09/2008, 2:18 PM
Cough *Paiso* cough ;)

As I said, everyone does it.

I'm not saying Drogheda are wrong to **** him out either, just think that some here are going OTT and are basically living in a fantasy land.

Redzer
10/09/2008, 2:24 PM
What goes around comes around.
Hughes was tapping up Faz when he was on our books. I know Hughes had left and, i'm sure Doolan didn't know he was doing it:rolleyes:

Rovers1
10/09/2008, 2:39 PM
I know Hughes had left and, i'm sure Doolan didn't know he was doing it:rolleyes:

Doolin was calling, wrecking Cookies head nearly everyday from the end of last season asking what the story was with Faz, although i wouldnt be surprised if Hughes influenced his decision, although that happens in football alot, when a player leaves to a club where he knows a former team mate.

It will be interesting to see what the PFAI has to say when the truth comes out about Byrne,have Drogs released a statement yet?

skipper_12
10/09/2008, 6:24 PM
Unfortunatel Byrne sums up everything that is bad about some of the top eircom league players. Absolutely NO loyalty whatsoever. Money may talk but it also makes players walk... Byrne Ranting on about how other people were carrying on sure how long ago was that and now he will be moving clubs AGAIN. The top players have realised they just have to sulk or mope around before they make there move to their new club. Then they cen dangle their new club colours over their heads at a press conference and say they were not happy and justify the move rather than admitting that they had it good at the last club, sometimes very good, sometimes even through injuries and dips in form they still got paid that juicy cheque every week. The truth might be that they see a bigger pay day or a handier shift.

Just watch the players jump ship at end of the season for pastures new! Some of them wont make sense at all.

Pity really as the Eircom league clubs have not got the financial powers that the Premier league clubs across the water have yet players here still expect to milk everything they can out of any and every club that they can.

Now Stuey thats my rant over if your reading :D

sadloserkid
10/09/2008, 6:55 PM
Mercenary players like Stuey Byrne are the reason clubs are in such financial trouble.

Are you serious? Clueless, gutless clubs facilitating mercenary players like Stuey Byrne (or any one of a hundred others) are the reason clubs are in such trouble.

Byrne got caught and accordingly if it can be proven Drogheda are right on to show him the door. But he is the rule as opposed to the exception in this. At every level players get tapped up. It's one of the unpleasant truths of the game and the moral indignation doesn't mask that.

Martinho II
10/09/2008, 8:55 PM
Its been obvious this season that Byrne hasn't given 2 f*cks about playing for Drogheda. Some of his diplays have been nothing short of disgraceful. His mind has obviously been on a big gay orgy with all his old bum chums at Bohs. And instead of playing out his, I'm sure very healthy contract, what does he do? He further unsettles an already unsettled squad in such underhand ways.
Actions of a born leader, a fine player? No. Looks more like the actions of an utter c*nt to me.

doesnt that remind you of a certain pat scully when he played for drogs a few years ago??:eek:

A face
10/09/2008, 9:56 PM
Unfortunatel Byrne sums up everything that is bad about some of the top eircom league players.


Absolutely NO loyalty whatsoever.
Money may talk but it also makes players walk.
Byrne ranting on about how other people were carrying on sure how long ago was that and now he will be moving clubs AGAIN.
The top players have realised they just have to sulk or mope around before they make there move to their new club. Then they can dangle their new club colours over their heads at a press conference and say they were not happy and justify the move rather than admitting that they had it good at the last club, sometimes very good, sometimes even through injuries and dips in form they still got paid that juicy cheque every week.
The truth might be that they see a bigger pay day or a handier shift.

Pity really as the Eircom league clubs have not got the financial powers that the Premier league clubs across the water have yet players here still expect to milk everything they can out of any and every club that they can.

The best thing to do is not jump to their every whim. Pay players what they are worth (in LOI terms) and ask them what they can do for clubs as opposed to the other way around.

I think we'll be wising up at city now after recent events. Players in general have admirable characteristics in general. They will drop clubs at the drop of a hat, not even consider fans for all the bull they spout, loyalty they dont know the meaning of, some of them laugh at the lengths fans will go to support their clubs. I agree, some players become complete tossers.

SwanVsDalton
10/09/2008, 10:35 PM
Do we have a brand-new most hated player in the league? If only Georgie was still here, we could have a fat wallet competition.

A face
11/09/2008, 8:17 AM
Do we have a brand-new most hated player in the league? If only Georgie was still here, we could have a fat wallet competition.

At least Georgie had a bit of character and sparked off opposition fans with ease. There aint many characters left in the league now imo.

Macy
11/09/2008, 9:13 AM
LoI players and managers are all part of the one incestuous pool. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded, and naive in the extreme if you think tapping up isn't the rule rather than exception. The only thing that it seems Stuey’s done is be stupid enough to get busted, but I wouldn’t think any player(s) that’ll testify against will be in an easy ride in the league.

Redie
11/09/2008, 9:27 AM
Originally Posted by WindmillWarrior

Its been obvious this season that Byrne hasn't given 2 f*cks about playing for Drogheda. Some of his diplays have been nothing short of disgraceful. His mind has obviously been on a big gay orgy with all his old bum chums at Bohs. And instead of playing out his, I'm sure very healthy contract, what does he do? He further unsettles an already unsettled squad in such underhand ways.
Actions of a born leader, a fine player? No. Looks more like the actions of an utter c*nt to me.

Fantastic Post. The Passion and Venom could not come accross more clearer! It's exactly what these players deserve.

McLovin
11/09/2008, 3:32 PM
How byrne ever got the captains armband is beyond me.Its been clear for a while that he hasnt given a sh!t about playing for drogs so why still give him the armband??Bad decision by Doolin to give it to him but good decision in suspending him

chipsahoy
11/09/2008, 5:29 PM
i wouldnt be too shocked by players actions in this league. ive said it to a few people that alot of the players in the league have a serious complex about playing in the loi. many of themk are bitter about where they are and that they never "made it" (ie in england) and as a result carry on like theyre bigger than clubs and the fans resulting in incidents like this and constantly inciting fans

Celdrog
11/09/2008, 6:57 PM
How byrne ever got the captains armband is beyond me.Its been clear for a while that he hasnt given a sh!t about playing for drogs so why still give him the armband??Bad decision by Doolin to give it to him but good decision in suspending himBecause we shipped out the previous stand in captain as well. Thank God Fabio is still there:D

Buile Shuibhne
11/09/2008, 7:32 PM
Because we shipped out the previous stand in captain as well. Thank God Fabio is still there:D

As Oscar Wilde would say:

........ to lose one captain may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both (or even a third) looks like carelessness........
:D

CuanaD
11/09/2008, 10:08 PM
I don't understand the vitriol & venom in this thread. S.Byrne is accused of something that hasn't been yet proved. No one here knows 100% of either side of the story (sounds like most of us know less than 10% of any of it). The player has continued to play fairly well - not too good in the right-back position, but still looking brilliant when he gets back into the midfield imo. Yet suddenly the vast majority of messages here are highly abusive toward him.

I've always rated him as one of the best ever midfielders in the league; perhaps when this investigation is over I may have to change my opinion somewhat, but allegations don't mean anything on their own.

SeanDrog
12/09/2008, 7:59 AM
I don't understand the vitriol & venom in this thread. S.Byrne is accused of something that hasn't been yet proved. No one here knows 100% of either side of the story (sounds like most of us know less than 10% of any of it). The player has continued to play fairly well - not too good in the right-back position, but still looking brilliant when he gets back into the midfield imo. Yet suddenly the vast majority of messages here are highly abusive toward him.

I've always rated him as one of the best ever midfielders in the league; perhaps when this investigation is over I may have to change my opinion somewhat, but allegations don't mean anything on their own.


I have to say I am in the same camp on this one. For me it seems very strange that when a player has any form of run in with Doolin that all of a sudden that player (according to the club) creates some situation which merits his exit, the lists is now becoming farcial;

Quinnless, Bradley, Leech, Bird, Scully, Grey, Fahy, Gavin, now Byrne. (prob. forgetting one or two from this list)

Always the players fault (supposedly). Now maybe Byrne is guilty but I will wait for the true story (rather than the club spin) to emerge ebfore judgement.

Drogman.
12/09/2008, 8:22 AM
I have to say I am in the same camp on this one. For me it seems very strange that when a player has any form of run in with Doolin that all of a sudden that player (according to the club) creates some situation which merits his exit, the lists is now becoming farcial;

Quinnless, Bradley, Leech, Bird, Scully, Grey, Fahy, Gavin, now Byrne. (prob. forgetting one or two from this list)

Always the players fault (supposedly). Now maybe Byrne is guilty but I will wait for the true story (rather than the club spin) to emerge ebfore judgement.

Fair enough, but saying that Byrne was playing "fairly" well is rubbish. He's played well in about 2 games this season, and the rest he's showed his lack of interest, be that at right full or midfield.

I'm not 100% sure of the details, but if his attitude on the pitch is anything to go by then I'm fairly confident that his suspension is justified.

CuanaD
12/09/2008, 9:07 AM
Quinnless, Bradley, Leech, Bird, Scully, Grey, Fahy, Gavin, now Byrne. (prob. forgetting one or two from this list)

Jeez, that's some list - I didn't realize there were so many!
Some real talented players let go there too :eek:







(What worries me most though is that I could be agreeing with RoddyCollins on this topic!) :confused:

jinxy lilywhite
12/09/2008, 9:29 AM
I don't know or care much about the Stu Byrne situation but you'd generally find there is no smoke without a fire.
Maybe if this happen last season or the season before not much would of been said but if Drogs can get out of paying him for the rest of the season it could probably save them bout €5,000.

Dodge
12/09/2008, 9:44 AM
Might be true if they hadn't have fired the above amount of players jinxy. ironic that Scully was one of those turfed out given the problems most of his players have with him

Drogman.
12/09/2008, 10:50 AM
Jeez, that's some list - I didn't realize there were so many!
Some real talented players let go there too :eek:


Yeah and some real d*ckheads to go with that talent. With the exception of a couple, I'm not surprised the others went considering the attitudes they had.

We all know why Fahey was let go. Grey just wanted first team football, no major bust up there, Scully was always going to leave once he got the taste for management and the others didn't really cut the mustard.

So listing off players names for the sake of it, doesn't really answer the question on what was up with Byrne.

SeanDrog
12/09/2008, 12:24 PM
if the player wsn't sacked , then he was relegated to being a fringe player making his move inevitable. grey is case in point - remember his bust up with Doolin (correct me if my memory fails me but I think it was soemthing to do with Doolin claiming false injury) , he wanted out but Chris byrne smoothed it over, next thing Grey was a fringe player, lucky to get a subs role and not too long after he left - and for each of the players ont he list some form of bust up occurred not long before their sacking or them leaving, that is the point.

Now as I said I will leave my judgement till the truth comes out but given whats happened as I don't think I will take the clubs pr at face value. Last we heard Doolin has a fit after the Bohs match, run in with Byrne and next thing this happens.

pineapple stu
12/09/2008, 12:28 PM
Quinnless, Bradley, Leech, Bird, Scully, Grey, Fahy, Gavin, now Byrne. (prob. forgetting one or two from this list)
Can add Aidan Lynch to that list too.

lofty9
12/09/2008, 12:32 PM
Quite ironic in that Doolin played for the sterling and the punt, he never showed any loyalty as a player. Look at his list of clubs, signing on fee after another.

Drogman.
12/09/2008, 12:39 PM
Quite ironic in that Doolin played for the sterling and the punt, he never showed any loyalty as a player. Look at his list of clubs, signing on fee after another.

I don't understand why people keep going on about loyalty all the time. This loyalty business is gone in the modern game of football and is defo not evident in the game here.

Loyalty doesn't bring you success, being clever does.

lofty9
12/09/2008, 12:47 PM
I don't understand why people keep going on about loyalty all the time. This loyalty business is gone in the modern game of football and is defo not evident in the game here.

Loyalty doesn't bring you success, being clever does.

Doolin is upset over Byrne's supposed antics and lack of respect for Drogheda United FC. As a player, Doolin caressed these same values as Byrne. Therefore in my eyes he is a hypocrite. I was highlighting and comparing two characters like for like.

CharlesThompson
12/09/2008, 4:19 PM
Money may talk but it also makes players walk.



:LMFAO! Are you David Brent in disguise?

Celdrog
12/09/2008, 5:23 PM
Doolin is upset over Byrne's supposed antics and lack of respect for Drogheda United FC. As a player, Doolin caressed these same values as Byrne. Therefore in my eyes he is a hypocrite. I was highlighting and comparing two characters like for like.Well in all fairness did he go tapping up players for his future employers?

Bunny Kelly
12/09/2008, 5:35 PM
Could some of the hate for Byrne be down to the fact he is blatantly money grabbing at a time when so many clubs are in danger of going bust from crazy wages?

brianw82
13/09/2008, 8:15 PM
Could some of the hate for Byrne be down to the fact he is blatantly money grabbing at a time when so many clubs are in danger of going bust from crazy wages?

Yessir.:)

stamullendrog
13/09/2008, 9:05 PM
Could some of the hate for Byrne be down to the fact he is blatantly money grabbing at a time when so many clubs are in danger of going bust from crazy wages?


the going thru the motions and getting up to this sort of behaviour when hes wearing our captains armband would be my major thing.