Fair play to both clubs. Hoping more follow. The wording of St Pats statement left no hiding places.
Good move by pats and derry. It is an insult to the club's and derogatory to be honest.
But I think both clubs and all clubs should of used the PCA to release the statement rather than individual one. It is imperitive the all clubs stick together as delaney and Co are masters of divide and conquer modus operandi
Good discussion pre-match in Galway tonight on Eir Sport.
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If they all do it then the individual statements will make more of an impact as clubs can have their own pop at the FAI and one statement could be twisted to look like bigger clubs bullying smaller clubs into not taking it. They all have to reject it for it to have the big impact if half don't then it doesn't look goodOriginally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
Unfortunately its unavailable, maybe by the FAI's request.
I believe this was the clip that Nigel linked to.
https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/761635949780566020
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Works fine for me, but yes, that was the same video.Unfortunately its unavailable, maybe by the FAI's request.
I believe this was the clip that Nigel linked to.
https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/761635949780566020
"The League is on its arse" - Damian Lynch
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Actually, you have to be signed in on Facebook to watch it.
Have Pat's and/or Derry stated the specific areas that the FAI have failed in?
Really strong words from Pats. Every club should be issuing a similar statement.
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My traditional gripe is the lack of an intermediary league. I've read comments from some clubs that they want a reserve league. Enough has been said about it. It's another failing.
FAI Statement:
FAI PRESS RELEASE
Saturday, 06 August 2016
FAI expresses extreme disappointment with St Patrick's Athletic's statement
The Football Association of Ireland expressed its extreme disappointment with the decision by St Patrick's Athletic FC to reject a funding grant to assist with providing a future business plan for all SSE Airtricity League clubs.
The decision by the club to refuse the payment, which will help to roadmap a financially strategic and deep-rooted community structure, is all the more astonishing given that St Patrick's Athletic were one of the clubs who agreed to the process, in the first place.
Since the St Patrick's Athletic statement was released on Friday evening a host of leading clubs, including Dundalk, Shamrock Rovers, Cork City, Bohemian FC and Galway United - and many others, have come out to support a clear desire to continue to work in partnership with the FAI.
Frank Kinsella, of St Patrick's Athletic, was one of the three club representatives, along with barrister Michael Cush, who represented the Premier Clubs Association (PCA) - who represent all League clubs - at a meeting with the FAI in Clonmel on August 27.
At that meeting, it was agreed that a €100,000 grant programme for strategic business planning be put in place for all League clubs, and that a statement would be agreed and released, following ultimate approval by the PCA.
The PCA, with Frank Kinsella, had welcomed the process where clubs would be assisted financially, in the drawing up of clear business plans for the next five years, which would give a clear pathway for the future of the League.
At no point during this meeting did Frank Kinsella, as a representative of the PCA or St Patrick's Athletic, voice his disapproval to the plan, and was, in fact, enthusiastic about the process.
He, and the other representatives of the PCA, went on the record with the Association at the time and declared it welcomed "the announcement by the FAI, (and) that they will support the clubs in preparing five-year strategic plans by investing €100,000".
The PCA and Frank Kinsella also agreed "the significance of both the FAI and the clubs working together on the project shows that there is a positive way forward for both to work together in developing the League of Ireland to a new platform for the benefit not alone of the FAI and the clubs, but the players and fans who support our League".
The Association believes that St Patrick's Athletic's statement is extremely divisive and utterly dismissive towards smaller clubs: "The (St Patrick's Athletic) board is of the view that the Association's move and its timing was deliberately aimed at encouraging non Premier League clubs to stand with the current administrators of our League as the PCA set about its agenda to change".
The FAI's Director of Competitions, Fran Gavin, said that the statement by St Patrick's Athletic was "extremely confusing".
"This is quite extraordinary given that the club's representative was one of the architects in agreeing the funding initiative in the first place," said Gavin.
"At no point did Frank Kinsella speak on behalf of himself or his club to voice concerns or otherwise with the funding grant. Nor did he declare that he didn't want to be part of this latest development in what is an ongoing process.
"This is extremely confusing and is quite frustrating that St Patrick's Athletic have decided that parts of this process, which their representative agreed to, is now not for them.
"Many leading clubs have been in touch with me and have announced that they are extremely engaged in what we are all doing together."
Meetings between the FAI and the PCA regarding the future structure and direction of the League have been ongoing since the Consultation Process Report was launched on September 28, 2015.
The meetings have taken place in an atmosphere of partnership, trust, confidentiality and goodwill. One of the main areas highlights by the Report is the need for the clubs to develop a clear business plan.
St Patrick's Athletic's statement is a disappointing development, but the FAI will strive on and continue to work with the clubs who are committed to finding a successful future for the League.
The FAI has an extremely positive history in assisting and working with St Patrick's Athletic in recent times, including through development planning for proposed new facilities and through assistance in preparing Richmond Park for the hosting of UEFA Champions League and Europa League games, and across a broad range of areas.
The FAI fully expects St Patrick's Athletic to re-engage with the agreed process, and to remain in a united partnership with its fellow clubs.
The Board of the FAI will, in the coming week, write to each club outlining the process to date and the next steps forward for the future development of Irish domestic football.
Ian Mallon
Director of Communications
Football Association of Ireland
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The FAI clearly live in their own alternative reality. I find the naming of a club representative very poor on their behalf.
Yeah, I thought that to be rather childish of them. It's almost along the lines of "Well he started it, so.."
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I dunno.
Reads to me like the FAI are calling " bull$hit" on your clubs rep.
Pats respond. Last paragraph is good and backs up their position that Kinsella couldn't agree to anything without board discussion
https://twitter.com/stpatsfc/status/761945974294142976
http://stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=7257#.V6YAtVUrJD8
our response to their response I wonder will they respond.
St Pats. Fair play to your club. The response statement is fantastic. Serious respect. If the FAI continue to engage (I doubt we'll hear anything more from them) then I really hope your administration uses the opportunities to reinforce how useless the FAI and Delaney have been for the league.
Well done again.
I'm delighted to see our club stand up to the FAI. However, getting into war of words with them, if we get no support from other clubs, will almost certainly be to the detriment of the club. I absolutely do not trust Delaney and his henchmen not to get petty and vindicitive over this. The clubs must stick together.
By the way, Fran Gavin in particular, as a former player, should hang his head in shame for standing over this.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
Am really hoping Denis O Connor gets involved in this row. Just for the laugh.
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Right now, just after this Pats statement, is the ideal time for the rest of the clubs to weigh in and back them and Derry.
That was a bloody superb statement and that last paragraph in itself is worthy of some sort of award.
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