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    Cliftonville & Donegal Celtic Merger

    Why do'nt Cliftonville and Donegal Celtic merge to form Belfast Celtic and play in the League of Ireland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
    Why do'nt Cliftonville and Donegal Celtic merge to form Belfast Celtic and play in the League of Ireland?
    Even better, why dont Pats, Bohs, Shams, Shels and UCD merge to be Dublin United?? Cliftonville are North Belfast and Donegal Celtic are West Belfast, with two different fan bases, traditions etc.

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    And what are these two clubs thoughts on playing in the league of Ireland like Derry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
    Why do'nt Cliftonville and Donegal Celtic merge to form Belfast Celtic and play in the League of Ireland?
    Why not go back to 1969 and have another Battle of the Bogside!?

    Silly suggestion, sounds more political than anything else!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
    And what are these two clubs thoughts on playing in the league of Ireland like Derry?
    They're happy where they are. Derry were forced out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar View Post
    They're happy where they are. Derry were forced out!
    I asked them for their "thoughts" on joining the LOI is all??

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
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    I asked them for their "thoughts" on joining the LOI is all??
    Appreciated, but wouldn't be a good idea
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    Why not?? We need more diversity in the league. Nobody wants to see a dublin and a few others league!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
    Why not??
    First of all because UEFA wouldn't allow it. Derry only came in as there wasn't any alternative!

    Secondly, why did you chose Cliftonville/DC rather than Linfield, Portadown, Glentoran etc.?

    We can't leave politics rule sport!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
    Why do'nt Cliftonville and Donegal Celtic merge to form Belfast Celtic and play in the League of Ireland?
    Surely it would make sense for the 2 clubs in west Belfast - DC and Linfield or the 2 clubs in north Belfast to merge Crusaders and Cliftonville. In reality it doesn't make sens for any of them to merge.

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    Why do'nt Cliftonville and Donegal Celtic merge to form Belfast Celtic and play in the League of Ireland?
    They'll never merge I'd say! and as for playing in the EL well can't see it happening in the forseeable future! don't know if playing Longford or Cobh would attract as many fans as the North Belfast derby or a match against the Glens would!

    Secondly, why did you chose Cliftonville/DC rather than Linfield, Portadown, Glentoran etc.?

    We can't leave politics rule sport!
    Exactly! I'd say an all Ireland league is a more favourable idea if you want a better variety of teams! things have moved on politically maybe it could be worked out some day but I'll not hold my breath!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspain View Post
    Surely it would make sense for the 2 clubs in west Belfast - DC and Linfield or the 2 clubs in north Belfast to merge Crusaders and Cliftonville. In reality it doesn't make sens for any of them to merge.
    Linfield are south Belfast but their ground is close to west Belfast to be fair!

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    Donegal Celtic's Chairmain is on the record having stated that his club are committed to playing in the Irish League, under the authority of the Irish Football Association.

    Here's an interesting thought:

    Why don't Rangers and Celtic merge to form "Glasgow United", and apply to join the English League?
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
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    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
    Why do'nt Cliftonville and Donegal Celtic merge to form Belfast Celtic and play in the League of Ireland?
    Sweet God - where do you start with this one......!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Sweet God - where do you start with this one......!
    Sure go on, im interested!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post


    Sure go on, im interested!!
    In summary :

    1) Why should they merge ? Is it just because you consider them 'Catholic' ?
    2) Why would they want to merge ? They're 2 very different clubs with very different histories, serving different communities. And they're rivals.
    3) Why would thye not only merge but then erase any sense of their previous identites by adopting the title of a team that died 60yrs ago that they have no connection with ?
    4) The Belfast Celtic name is actually owned by someone, so couldn't just be adopted willy nilly. It's current owner has expressed no interest in seeing the club revived, nor is there any pressure form anyone in Belfast to revive the club.
    5) Why should they move league if they did or even didn't merge ? Again, is it just because you consider them Catholic teams in a league you consider predominantly Protestant?
    6) Why would the EL want to accept them ? In particular, Donegal Celtic would add nothing to either a merger or the EL. They have no fans and an absolutely dreadful ground.
    7) Why would anyone in UEFA/FIFA sit by and let it happen without kicking-up an almighty fuss ?
    8) Why would anyone in the Northern Irish assembly and Irish government not put serious pressure on the FAI to stop any such move ?

    And that's only a brief summary for starters.

    Sure why not amalgamate Kerry and Cork counties and call the joint thing 'Kark' instead.

    You're usually a sensible head on here KH, but you've been on the wacky pills with this one I'm afraid.

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    If any Northern team will be joining the Eircom League it will be Linfield, however I can't see that happening...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    6) Why would the EL want to accept them ? In particular, Donegal Celtic would add nothing to either a merger or the EL. They have no fans and an absolutely dreadful ground.
    Its worse than dreadful.
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    Sure why not amalgamate Kerry and Cork counties and call the joint thing 'Kark' instead.
    Good idea.

    Then saw it off and push it out to sea.
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    It's time people forgot about teams changing leagues etc.

    The only way we'll have an all-ireland league is if their is a break-away between the LOI and Irish League teams.

    And even then it is not feaseable unless we get some sort of UEFA blessing and have our European places still intact. But how would it work with an independant governing body who has no say in the two National sides I don't know.

    However I do not think unifying the two leagues would help standards much anyway. Sure their will be a few more bigger games, but what really would it change?
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