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    Thanks the article is contradictory.

    First it states an extra game eg Wales.

    At the end it states Wales and 2 further games.

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    Actually on firther thoughts maybe not

    He had served 3 games and 2 to serve.

    Sloavakia away may not count.

    If he got 1 extra game from UEFA then he had 3 still to serve.

    Wales is one and 2 further games. however he was pulled from the Cyprus squad so that should count.

    Then will the England away U21 game count in February eventhough the senior game 24 hours later will be a friendly. Will Montenegro home and the subsequent senior game in March count?

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    Fair point, looks like nothing counts after the infringement in the home game against Slovakia, maybe Delaney had much on his mind and got distracted.

    At the end of the article it states that UEFA say he will be out for the next 3 senior games. So that means the suspension is no longer linked to the u21 games?
    More questions than answers.

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    Apparently the instructions from UEFA regarding the suspension were less than clear which is why the FAI got off relatively lightly.

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    Shane Long Fiasco

    I've been away for over a week and am catching up but haven't noticed anything on the Shane Long "injury" cover up.

    Absoute farce.

    Reading 2 Newcastle United 1: Ireland rumpus overshadows Long's impact
    By James Corrigan
    Published: 29 October 2007


    Like any good professional, Shane Long likes to do what he is told. A few weeks ago he went along with an apparent cover-up that would help his country's cause, or so he thought, and on Saturday he scored the winning goal within 10 seconds of coming on as a substitute. No questions asked, but a few answers given.

    The one that may yet cost John Delaney, the Football Association of Ireland's chief executive, his job – so soon after he relieved Steve Staunton of his – was Long's admission that the powers-that-be informed him that they were going to tell the media that the reason for his withdrawal from the squad to face Cyprus was a groin injury.

    In fact, this was a completely fictitious medical bulletin as the Reading manager, Steve Coppell, later confirmed and the real factor behind Long's hasty exit was down to a suspension rumpus.

    It is a complex case, but basically what happened was that Long was on the bench in last month's international against Slovakia when he should not have been. A five-match ban he picked up in an under-19s international counted for that match as well as for the qualifier against Cyprus.

    Because Long did not come on against Slovakia the FAI were only fined by Uefa, but would have lost a point if he had played just one second. Fearing an outcry, the Irish camp felt obliged to invoke the phantom injury and the 20-year-old was persuaded to go along with it. "I was told all right, yeah, but I think they have their reasons for everything and I just said OK, fair enough, and let's get on with it," said Long. "I just kept my head down and concentrated on my football back here."

    Alas, the affair has resurfaced and the recriminations will inevitably follow. Delaney has refused to comment saying it would be "inappropriate" when "there is a review in process", but whatever happens it is only fair that Long will escape punishment. The manner in which he sprinted on to the Madejski turf on Saturday to steal in behind the Newcastle defence and fire it into the roof of net, certainly suggested a young man with not a care in the world.



    Sorry - just noticed thread on p2. Mods - can u pls delete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Sorry - just noticed thread on p2. Mods - can u pls delete?
    Just merge it. While we're there, the following article is was published in the current STIG.

    A Tale of Two Suspensions

    Shane Long was an unused substitute in Ireland's match against Slovakia last September. It turns out that he was suspended for that game as a result of his being sent off against Turkey in an under 19s game in May 2006. Suspensions from this level carry over into under 21s games but not senior internationals. However, when a player is suspended from an under 21s game, he is automatically suspended from playing a senior international within 24 hours of the underage game. So, because Shane Long was suspended from playing for Ireland under 21s against Portugal the night before the senior match, he was automatically suspended from the senior game against Slovakia.

    When this issue came to light, the FAI appealed for leniency from UEFA because of the complicated nature of the rules and, importantly, because the FAI had asked UEFA if Long was suspended and were wrongly told that he was not. Since the mistake was largely on UEFA's part, the FAI was let away with a fine and an increase in Long's suspension, a reduced punishment from the potential to deduct Ireland points from our European Championship qualification group.

    It is interesting to compare this to the situation last year where the boot was on the other foot. During last season the eircom league, which is now a part of the FAI, failed to inform Shamrock Rovers that Paul Shiels was suspended for a game against Dundalk in July 2006 and informed Bohs three times (once by email and twice by telephone) that Jason McGuinness was not suspended for a game against Shelbourne around the same time. Both players played these games and both clubs were deducted three league points. The FAI was required to adjudicate both of these cases and concluded that the points deductions should stand as it is the responsibility of the clubs to be aware of player suspensions and not the responsibility of the governing authority to correctly inform them.

    It is an impressive ability to hold two contradictory opinions and believe strongly in both of them.

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    That's a good one, another FAI funny incident.

    One difference is that Long was an used sub whereas the two LOI players got time on the pitch.

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    thats a great article from the stig

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