Professional Football league is it sustainable in this country?

**A face** · 02/07/2008, 8:34 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

3,5k is still too much for a disloyal mediocre footballer in this league

Only deemed as mediocre now because he didn't really get going this time, which is a pity but i think we all know that he is not mediocre.

**jebus** · 02/07/2008, 8:45 PM

Originally Posted by A face

Only deemed as mediocre now because he didn't really get going this time, which is a pity but i think we all know that he is not mediocre.

By our mediocre league standards he isn't, by even Championship standards he's mediocre at best

**A face** · 02/07/2008, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

By our mediocre league standards he isn't, by even Championship standards he's mediocre at best

Oh sorry, i was actually referring to this league. You were obviously referring to all the players in this league, not just singling one out, its just the way you worded it that got me. Carry on

**GavinZac** · 03/07/2008, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Ronnie

In reality, Irish clubs have the same quality of player now as we had 10 years ago, excpet that their full time and their wages have gone up hugely.

Uh - no. 10 years ago we had Kelvin Flanagan as a lynch-pin centre mid. Now when they're fit we have to pick 2 from Gareth Farrelly, Colin Healy and Joe Gamble, all full senior internationals with multiple caps.

**Macy** · 03/07/2008, 8:02 AM

Originally Posted by micls

I know hes on crazy money (3500) but thats just ridiculous. Maybe your counting all his goal bonuses

Or the old chestnut of whether the 3500 is gross or net?

**jebus** · 03/07/2008, 8:21 AM

Originally Posted by A face

Oh sorry, i was actually referring to this league. You were obviously referring to all the players in this league, not just singling one out, its just the way you worded it that got me. Carry on

Worded badly I concede, I should have mentioned that I was rating Georgie on the level that he obviously thinks he is at

**micls** · 03/07/2008, 8:31 AM

Originally Posted by Macy

Or the old chestnut of whether the 3500 is gross or net?

I was told that our new contracts had done away with the 'net' thing but tbh I couldnt tell you If Georges was one of them

**pete** · 03/07/2008, 9:47 AM

Originally Posted by micls

I know hes on crazy money (3500) but thats just ridiculous. Maybe your counting all his goal bonuses

I believe that is Net which would explain the 6k mentioned. Still think 300k Gross is impossible wage.

**Boh_So_Good** · 03/07/2008, 10:14 AM

Is a professional horse racing industry sustainable in Ireland without massive taxpayer investment in terms of bloodstock tax breaks and Irish taxpayers funding the prize money...

Greyhound racing Ditto...

Is GAA in this country sustainable minus most schools/communities in the country offering nothing in terms of sport to students other than GAA...

are top GAA eh, "athletes" sustainable without them now being declared defacto civil servants paid for with taxpayers money...

Is a GAA top flight league in this country sustainable without the GAA heads lobbying the Government to ban AFL scouts operating in this country?

It's all relative.

We could have a domestic soccer league in this country on par with SeriaA if domestic soccer was for the entertainement of farmers, parish priests, rural TDs, etc... Sadly none of the above support Irish domestic soccer and therefore no "level playing field".

**Longfordian** · 03/07/2008, 7:50 PM

Originally Posted by micls

I was told that our new contracts had done away with the 'net' thing but tbh I couldnt tell you If Georges was one of them

The standard players' contract must be used and registered with the FAI and all figures for wages on that are gross. Now whether his gross was worked out so that he'd have a certain amount into his hand based on his allowances I don't know but I'd doubt it.

**Macy** · 04/07/2008, 8:25 AM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

Now whether his gross was worked out so that he'd have a certain amount into his hand based on his allowances I don't know but I'd doubt it.

You wouldn't exactly have to be a tax genius to work it out in fairness.

**Schumi** · 04/07/2008, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

whether his gross was worked out so that he'd have a certain amount into his hand based on his allowances I don't know but I'd doubt it.

I'd be surprised if it wasn't tbh. It's how players' wages have operated up to now.

**Longfordian** · 04/07/2008, 11:55 AM

Maybe so. Obviously the culture was traditionally all about net wages but I know in our club, which to be fair hasn't always been a shining example of how to do things, all wages are paid gross without any real consideration of how much they would be getting into their hand from the club, and the player or staff member can either take it or leave it.