Stan interview with Des Cahill this evening on RTE Radio 1
Got to hear this.
Still get the vibe that the plan is that there is no plan. Wing and a prayer stuff.
To look at it from a glass is half full perspective - there's a naive honesty to some of the comments but a lot of the sentiments come across inarticulate and half baked.
Thoughts on the interview folks?
Ah sure we all know he DOSENT HAVE A SCOOBY DO
do u have the link to the broad cast ????
Its such a pity he is coach because we have some lethal young guys coming up
Supple, Logan, Garvin .O Dea, S Quinn, Clarke , Mc Shane, Rooney the list goes on and on
TBH i dont think we have any more promising young players coming up than any other time over the last 10 yearse
I would be surprised if that true. No one remembers the young potential talent 10 years ago as most of them never progressed just like will happen to those listed above.Originally Posted by gustavo
Anyone got a podcast on this?
'And Crouch must score'
You could be right. IMO there are slightly more promising young players coming up than 10 years ago but not as many as it seems. The intensified media coverage and the emergence of web forums such as this one give the young lads in the lower leagues/reserve teams/youth teams much more exposure than 10 years ago. Even if players with an Irish-sounding name scores a goal in the old 3rd division or the Championship reserves it gets some coverage on here. 10 years ago they would have been overlooked or bearly mentioned - maybe just in the list of Irish scorers in the Irish times.
It would be interesting to compare the number of Irish players with professional contracts in England today with 10 years ago. I would imagine that it has increased but not dramatically. Hopefully this increase results in more players making a big breakthrough than 10 years ago. We have only ever had a max. of 2 or 3 world-class players in the squad at one time (with a some additionl top-class players in the Charlton days). If the increase in promising young lads only results in us increasing that number to 3 to 4 world-class players that would IMO be a major improvement.
Interesting that the Young Guns issue has arisen.
Stan was asked about Stokes last night and said that Stokes was a very young lad and that there'd be no rushed moves to add him to the team. He said the same about Stephen Quinn.
He did make the point that if he threw them in and if it didn't work out, it could damage their careers.
Thought McShane handled it well though!! I suppose one novice might blend in - maybe 2 or 3 is asking a bit much.
When asked about the lack of training time before the Wales game, Stan informed Cahill that on the night of the match at Croker "there will be a ball, a pitch, two goals and the players". Which is encouraging.
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What Exactly Are You On About?
Richard Dunne made his Everton debut around 10 years ago, aged 16
Robbie Keane made his Wolved debut around 8 years ago, aged 17
Damien Duff
Stephen Carr was 19 10 years ago, one of the most highly rated up and coming right backs
Ian Harte was also around the same age doing well at leeds 8 years ago
There are others, but i don't think the bunch coming through at the moment are going to be any better
maybe in theory, but look at the following:
robbie keane made his debut at 17
rooney debut with england (17).
michael owen (17)
the old saying if he's good enough he is old enough.
i know it sounds terrible but it is stan's responsibility to win games not worry about players longer term futures - remember erriccison (yes he is a twit and i can't spell his name) and him selecting rooney even though moyes was trying to only play him on rare occassions.
so much can happen to these great white hopes that you have to make hay when the sun shines. his career could end tomoro from injury, he could be the next mark kennedy (as mentioned above), stephen mcphail, phil babb (there was laughably talk of him being the new mcgrath back in the day!), stokes could slip into obsceurity and down the leagues but at this moment in time he is buzzing and deserves his game. a form striker is worth his weight in gold (toto schilacci at WC90 kept Vialli out due to his form and then he dissappeared).
take the gamble for fcuk sake! he should not only be in the squad for san marino but he should start with doyle. who are the alternatives:
keane (injured - may be back but he always needs a good run of games to reach his peak)
morrison - NEXT
duff - is he injured at the moment?
connolly - bangin them in for sunderland but has never really cut the mustard at international level.
it would do a fit keane and duff no harm to start on the bench for a game or two either IMO. they really believe their own hype and neither is setting the world alight in the EPL at the moment.
this is class - i nearly fell over when i read it in the paper at lunch - the man truly is a tactical genius. he should just say nothing.
yeah ya have to love stauntons argument about stokes being too young, when he bring foockin terry dixon( who is 16) into the senior squad, when he cant even get a sniff of the spurs reserve team..
alan o'brien so.
fact is dixon was called up for the training camp last year and with the squad for the subsequent friendly. all this and he still hadn't even made the spurs reserves!
Stan is not exactly what you would call consistant!
I disagree. We have nearly an entire squad of 18-21 year olds coming through that are playing regular football for clubs in either the SPL, Premiership and Championship. When have we ever had so many promising youngsters coming through playing regular football for their clubs at such young ages? Never in my memory. Only the doom and gloom merchants seem to state otherwise.
People go on about the promising youngsters before like Kennedy, Partridge and Barrett that never cut it but all these were hyped up for no reason IMO. They did nothing in senior football to warrant any hype. The likes of Stokes, Clarke, Long, Garvan, Mc Geady, O'Dea, Foley, Keogh, Ireland (though I'm not too sure about him), St Ledger, S Quinn, McCann, Supple and J O'Brien (please recover soon) have all proved themselves as capable footballers at decent levels over the past season or so. The only thing I'll say for some of them is that they haven't proved themselves capable at the top level yet but all have played regularly at far better levels than Liverpool or Arsenal reserves. Indeed some will prove not to be up to the task of raising their games to be regular Premiership performers but by the law of averages a number should make it. I've been particularly impressed with Garvan and J O'Brien (last season) and have high hopes for both if they can steer clear of anymore injuries.
Also Carr was pure sh*t when he was 19 and anyone that says otherwise must never have seen him play at that age.
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Pre internet 10 years ago young players in the Championship & SPL clubs would not even be noticed by irish fans.
Not true if you followed football you'd have noticed young Irish players playing regularly for their clubs in the Championship. I remember seeing Robbie Keane on his debut for Wolves scoring two goals and knew he was Irish and one for the future.
I have no worries about the Irish players we'll have for the future. It's the management that I have sleepless nights over.
Then he must have been one of the fastest learners in the game. Pure shíte at 19. First team regular age 20, to player of the year age 22.
He was crap for his first couple of seasons. I remember watching him regularly. He improved dramatically in his early twenties.
On the original topic of radio interviews. John Delaney is on with Matt Cooper after 6pm.
'And Crouch must score'
Delaney had a long interview with Pat Dolan on Setanta last week. I missed it though.
delaney another fool...promising us a world class manager
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