England V Republic of Ireland - Thursday, 12th November 2020 - Friendly

[pineapple stu]

When was the last time we came back from 2 goals down?

Good question. Ireland v Mexico in 2000, it seems - 2-0 down in the US Cup, and Dunne and Foley scored to make it 2-2, which is how it finished.

[backstothewall]

I've given up and turned the Jocks on.

[passinginterest]

We can't play out if Duffy is starting. He just can't do it. He can't even play a 50/50 ball when he is forced to hump it, it's just straight to an England player.

Browne is wrecking my head too, can't keep the ball at all:

And that's a terrible penalty to concede. Getting annoyed now!

[pineapple stu]

That's about 4 good chances for them this half alone, and then we help them with a soft peno.

The only hope now is that England let up. And don't bring on the likes of Bellingham who want to prove something.

[BonnieShels]

At least the IFA representative team are losing... Right?

[boovidge]

Maybe we'll improve with games to come but I fear, with this system, we'll only ever be like one of those La Liga minnows. They play pretty football but get blown away anytime they come up against one of the big boys who can do what they do but 10x better.

[zero]

I think England will lay off us now.

This isn't working. No positives.

[passinginterest]

Switch to a back 3 by the look of things. Will be interesting to see at least.

Or not, O'Shea just gone to right back it seems.

[shakermaker1982]

Losing can become a very bad habit.

[passinginterest]

Adds the pressure for the next two games. If we're honest this isn't unexpected, we had the hope of a raised performance because it's England, but without the crowd that was less likely. It's one of the top 5 teams in the world against one that's probably barely in the top 50 these days and it looks like it.

The next two games are much more important in terms of the Kenny reign. No goals and no wins and then the pressure really is on the try something different.

[backstothewall]

I've put it back on because i'm a gluten for punishment.

This is as bad an Ireland performance as i can remember since the dog days of Stan. England should be much further ahead.

I'm not calling for his head yet, but that day is getting closer.

[pineapple stu]

Iceland concede twice in injury time in Hungary to be knocked out of the Euros.

That'll be geysir taking a day off from the site anyway

[Lionel Ritchie]

ITV now cracking jokes about Hendersons two touches of the ball. If Trap was still in charge (6-1 Germany) or Martin O'Neill (5-1 Denmark) we'd still be getting dicked tonight because we don't have the players or the culture to produce them ourselves. I don't blame the players or Kenny for that matter. It is what it is. We're coming from a very low base where we've flattered to deceive by playing a considerable amount of anti-football with just occasional flashes of what could be. That policy, culture, ideology whatever got us a couple of qualifications that themselves proved counterproductive. We had no business at Euro 2012. None. Zero. And if we'd missed out Delaney would've been found out 7 or 8 years sooner.
It may take a decade or a generation to turn this around.
Ah ...and now Bellinghams on with something to prove.

[Closed Account 2]

I've put it back on because i'm a gluten for punishment.

This is as bad an Ireland performance as i can remember since the dog days of Stan. England should be much further ahead.

I'm not calling for his head yet, but that day is getting closer.

I think this is worse than the Stan games, at least we occasionally looked like scoring in those games. I think Kenny should go, there is no organisation, there is no cutting edge, there is no defensive cohesion. It hard to say what exactly there is (of a positive nature). He is out of his depth, by some distance.

[backstothewall]

I have no idea what Ronan Curtis is doing near an Ireland shirt unless he's buying one in Sports Direct but that is at least a shot on target.

[pineapple stu]

The worst Ireland team in living memory losing 3-0 to the best England team in living memory in a game that shouldn't even be happening is no reason to sack the manager.

Lionel Ritchie has it right when he says that there's far bigger problems in Irish football. This decline has been evident for years. Not Kenny's fault

[sbgawa]

Timing is everything , we had a manager Jack Charlton who played puke football with probably the best squad of players we ever had (would one player on the pitch tonight get into the 88-94 teams) and we have a manager now who wants to play football with possibly our worst squad ever.

[paul_oshea]

ITV now cracking jokes about Hendersons two touches of the ball. If Trap was still in charge (6-1 Germany) or Martin O'Neill (5-1 Denmark) we'd still be getting dicked tonight because we don't have the players or the culture to produce them ourselves. I don't blame the players or Kenny for that matter. It is what it is. We're coming from a very low base where we've flattered to deceive by playing a considerable amount of anti-football with just occasional flashes of what could be. That policy, culture, ideology whatever got us a couple of qualifications that themselves proved counterproductive. We had no business at Euro 2012. None. Zero. And if we'd missed out Delaney would've been found out 7 or 8 years sooner.
It may take a decade or a generation to turn this around.
Ah ...and now Bellinghams on with something to prove.

Your point would be somewhat valid, save kenny has had more than a handful of games now. Those were one-offs in those managers ireland careers(granted did always look like coming especially in Traps case). I really dislike this site the way people use one of or stupid results to try and disprove or prove their own point, from the generally glaring obvious point. It shows a serious limit in ability to see clearly and argue the case effectively.

[paul_oshea]

Timing is everything , we had a manager Jack Charlton who played puke football with probably the best squad of players we ever had (would one player on the pitch tonight get into the 88-94 teams) and we have a manager now who wants to play football with possibly our worst squad ever.

Yes and so you setup and do whats best for whats the best possible outcome, looking as good as is possible. You let those after you worry and work the underage and machine coming through.

[sbgawa]

bonner
Irwin, McGrath,Moran, Staunton
Houghton, Keene, Townsend, Whelan
Aldridge, cascarino

Would any player on the pitch tonight replace one of these