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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    You can find something to admire in Ireland soaking up pressure and eking out victories against eg. Macedonia and Georgia but you damn Scotland with faint praise when they go to Germany and lose by slim margins. Strange.
    Results are ultimately what matters. I don't think I damned Scotland. They gave it a good shot, but came up short. I'd like if we tried something similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Ironically when we were leading Italy 2-1 in Dublin, That was the one time Trapattoni had the players going gung-ho for no reason at all. Put the shutters up when it doesn't make sense and not when it does!
    Yeah, I'm sure that was a result of Trap telling them to throw caution to the wind.

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    I think I'll just retire from this forum for a while. DeLorean says everything I want to say anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I think I'll just retire from this forum for a while. DeLorean says everything I want to say anyway.
    I see a lot of DeLorean and a little of me in you, Stutts.

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    Congrats lads. Adam you need to merge these threads.
    Also the Irish are up on an unexpected challenge from UNC right now, with the ability to move up the rankings again with #1 Florida State looming next sat night. Good times to be Irish. #2 Auburn losing late at #3 Miss St. Can Notre Dame hold on?

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    I caught a piece with John O'Shea on the score.ie http://thescore.thejournal.ie/robbie...19280-Oct2014/

    John O'Shea is no idiot, and I don't think he's capable of playing the dumb fool from the village routine. He makes reference to changing formation (three at the back) against Germany, and the chances of Keane starting, so it sounds like a definite game plan is in place for Germany.

    Three at the back would be interesting, but there is no recognised or suitable wing-back in the squad on the right hand side. McClean would be a very good left wing-back. I'm very excited by the possibilities here - even if I recognise it's highly unlikely we'll deviate from the norm.

    I hope Hoolahan is kept in the side, and I think McClean deserves to start in Gelsenskirchen despite the couple of acts of stupidity (now there is a proper village idiot) . Long and McGeady would make a good attacking quartet. Interestingly McClean was quite m
    Behind them I was not impressed by Ward or Meyler, but there is no alternatives (certainly no alternatives that would make a drastic difference) so if we go with our traditional flat back 4 then we're probably going to be stuck with what we had against Gibraltar, and that terrifies me. Gibson was better than Hendrick last night, and has the required bite and passing that we'll need. Glenn Whelan is a banker to come back into the side.


    ---------------------------Forde----------------------------
    -----------O'Shea----------Wilson-------------Clark-------
    -- ? ----------------------Whelan---------------------McClean--
    --------------Gibson-----------------------Hoolahan-------------
    ---------------------------McGeady-------------------------
    -----------------------------Long----------------------------

    or

    ---------------------------Forde----------------------------
    -- Meyler--------- O'Shea ---------- Wilson ----------- Ward--
    ---------------------------Whelan----------------------------
    -- McGeady -------Gibson------------Hoolahan -------McClean
    -----------------------------Long----------------------------

    I suspect Wes won't start though, with Quinn playing in his place.
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    FFS, who's ever been 'impressed' by Ward, depressed more like...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    FFS, who's ever been 'impressed' by Ward, depressed more like...
    There was more clowning around from O'Shea and Wilson than Ward last night. I hope Martin is working on adequately defending set pieces is all I'll say.

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    They were both awful yesterday, though have marginally more faith in them. But another reason why we'll lose on Tuesday.

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    You would probably say the same thing about three quarters of Poland's backline if you seen them play regularly.

    Just need to maintain concentration for 90 minutes, have some belief and some semblance of a strategy and that's a start.

    We're building up Germany to epic proportions here and putting ourselves down too much.

    Yes we have some very mediocre players but SO DID SCOTLAND AND POLAND.

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    Tbf, don't think it matters what we say on here, doubtful any of the players/mangt.staff would ever read this...

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    Thank God for that.

    They already have the attitude of hedgehogs when it comes to playing decent opposition. We don't need you making it even worse.

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    I'm flattered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    There was more clowning around from O'Shea and Wilson than Ward last night. I hope Martin is working on adequately defending set pieces is all I'll say.
    Our defending from corners was dreadful. Gibraltar nearly scored twice. It was the same against Serbia and Turkey too. It's not like the warning signs haven't been there.

    Ward is what he is. We've got to live with his limitations, but I think some criticism is OTT.

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    Here's a very well thought out piece offering suggestions on what needs to be done to take something from Germany.

    http://www.thescore.ie/analysis-how-...86373-Oct2014/

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    Good read. It can be done.

    Funny how that Poland result took the wind out of the sails. Put a sour spin on yesterday. And, of course, now the thinking is we have to face not just Germany in their own back yard, but a German team with a point to prove.

    But even if Gibraltar were woeful, the players should be properly buoyed for the first time since pre Euros 2012. I doubt any of them thought they would ever win a match 7-0 in a green shirt. McGeady, Hoolahan and McClean all look confident. At least we're going in with the right attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Our defending from corners was dreadful. Gibraltar nearly scored twice. It was the same against Serbia and Turkey too. It's not like the warning signs haven't been there.

    Ward is what he is. We've got to live with his limitations, but I think some criticism is OTT.
    I could have sworn it was Wilson who was in lala land at that set piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    I could have sworn it was Wilson who was in lala land at that set piece.
    It could well have been. I wasn't singling out Ward from set pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Tbf, don't think it matters what we say on here, doubtful any of the players/mangt.staff would ever read this...
    I heard St. Ledger posts on here from time to time.

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