in fairness given your certainty about that figure you must have been involved at some stage in managing the team so one cannot argue that point given the experience you have of players refusing to play.pity about the desmond league as they won it a few years ago i think.Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
I agree it has been a shambles and i think it probably should be scrapped, fairkop mentioned a few players that would be considered top players but how many of them were watching themselves during matches, top players in Tipperary league play when it suits them, north tipp have no team in the competition, ECWW have not entered the competition, desmond league, ccl league, and Inshowen league is in doubt.
I must have been seeing things watching the TOP players in Limerick the last 2 years all playing on the oscar traynor team.Aidan Ryan and his crew have done a terrific job.All the players have obviously bought into it as they have all made themselves available.
last post makes no sense at all.the top players will play in the competition..but will watch themselves..?sure if they were that way inclined all they have to do is not play OR refuse to play as PS said.i would not agree its a shambles,all competitions present problems,fairview won an fai some years ago and were helped by a walkover in the last 16,then you have objections etc. is the fai junior cup a shambles?
Yes players will watch them selves when they are playing Oscar trainer , what has the FAI and Fairview getting a walk over got to do with OT.
its referred to as an ..analogy?you suggested the competition was a shambles and it should be scrapped.the top players in almost all the leagues that enter it play in it and i would assume therefore that those players deem it an honour to represent their league in the Oscar...traynor....
everybody is entitled to hold an opinion.
i have no gripes with the comp. or the management team.
wish them all the best and hope they are successful.
but it will not change my view on it as regards the status of the comp. in the players pecking order.
it also won't change the fact that a fair amount of players will not make themselves available for selection.
i know this from either playing or following the game for a long time.
we will agree to differ
What players didn't make themselves available last year??
Would like to know the names of those players you know who have turned down the chance to play for their league or the names of others that you have heard about there seems to be a good few from what you say.
We in Dublin always give ita good go as our League will call off games even if only one player is in Panel.Weve 4 players in the panel(3 debutants) so theyr delighted and raring to go.The AUL play a friendly Wed so we were down to play Sheriff YC FRiday but that has been put back to Sunday.It seems we just take it seriously up here although in the past some players playing for Ireland Juniors opted out as it was too many games for them,others have also declined to play
i would not mention any names...it's their personal choice.
If a player declines to play OT for various reasons,is there a rule that that player can be suspended by the league that he is playing in??that can't be right if true can it?
Fairkop not everyone thinks the way you do last year limerick had one sub at a game and that was paudie hickey a second choice keeper how many players didn't turn up on the night?, it didn't seem to be much of an honour for the Tipperary lads last year when they refused to play in it.
there is a rule...but it is never(or can't be) enforced..
all a fella has to do is say he is carrying a knock.
maybe if they introduced a knock out and a regionalised element brought in to it,it may improve.
Can a fella just retire from playing OT?
last year?think you need to revisit your history books.think you wrong there,last year limerick had big squads for their games,i was at the clare game and they had at least 20 togged.year before went to clare and galway games and had big squads.did not see player you mentioned togged in any of those squads either.
Lads I spoke to players that played for the oscar taynor team and they said it is an honour to play for the Oscar traynor team, but it comes down to who is the manager as well and everyone that plays for the Oscar Traynor team under Aido have nothing but respect for the competition.
Dont have to revisit the history books i was present when only 12 players were available and paudie hickey was the 12th player. If it was so important for a player why would the tipp lads not play in the competition, why have other counties pulled out.
to my knowledge the game you are referring to was an away fixture against the Cork AUL on a wednesday night approx 4 years ago when Martin Reddan and Denis Keehan were at the helm. Since then, under Aidan Ryans watch Limerick OT have always had a full compliment of players.
i would also like to advise you that no Tipperary player refused to play against the AUL last year. The decision not to play the game was made by the league in conjunction with the management. I think it is very unfair to blame players when one is not aware of the full facts.
Minesapint was born in a leap year so it was last year to him
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