Saudi Arabian justice.

[Thunderblaster]

I've been bombarded with it by the English media all week thanks.

But what's your point here....?

Sudanese justice=Saudi Arabian justice.

[dcfcsteve]

Sudanese justice=Saudi Arabian justice.

American justice=Irish justice......?

[jamie m]

whatever people may personally think about the types of punishment dished out in places like saudia arabia and sudan the one thing i find hypocritical is countries like the u.k getting on their moral high horse while the uk themselves are quite happy to intern "terrorists" in belmarsh or guantanamo without trial for years at a time,

[Block G Raptor]

whatever people may personally think about the types of punishment dished out in places like saudia arabia and sudan the one thing i find hypocritical is countries like the u.k getting on their moral high horse while the uk themselves are quite happy to intern "terrorists" in belmarsh or guantanamo without trial for years at a time,

As opposed to loping off they're heads or hanging them? Whilst I am as against internment without trial in UK/US as i was in NI. it's a lot better than what a brit or Yank would get for the same accusations in Saudi or Pakistan or wherever

[jamie m]

As opposed to loping off they're heads or hanging them? Whilst I am as against internment without trial in UK/US as i was in NI. it's a lot better than what a brit or Yank would get for the same accusations in Saudi or Pakistan or wherever

im opposed to the death penalty and all forms of torture whatever country hands it out and that the way in which that teacher in sudan was treated was ridiculous, all im saying is that im not going to listen to a moral lecture from the countries that gave us guantanamo,abu ghraib the iraq and afghanistan wars, cia torture flights to detention centres where limbs are broken, waterboarding is carried etc,

[pete]

im opposed to the death penalty and all forms of torture whatever country hands it out and that the way in which that teacher in sudan was treated was ridiculous, all im saying is that im not going to listen to a moral lecture from the countries that gave us guantanamo,abu ghraib the iraq and afghanistan wars, cia torture flights to detention centres where limbs are broken, waterboarding is carried etc,

You are comparing idiotic teacher with Guantanamo?

BTW the US actually has an official list of acceptable torture

[jamie m]

You are comparing idiotic teacher with Guantanamo?

BTW the US actually has an official list of acceptable torture

im not comparing what the teacher went throught with what goes on in guantanamo, my general point is that i think countries like the us/uk have no right to criticse the treatment of that teacher in sudan when you take into consideration their own poor records on respecting human rights,international law, fair trials, due process,etc

[GavinZac]

im not comparing what the teacher went throught with what goes on in guantanamo, my general point is that i think countries like the us/uk have no right to criticse the treatment of that teacher in sudan when you take into consideration their own poor records on respecting human rights,international law, fair trials, due process,etc

frankly, hypocrisy is better than silence, in this case.

[kingdom hoop]

If we were waiting for he without sin to cast the first stone then the stones of this world would be wasting away from inactivity. And they can still rock so that just wouldn't be right.



don't worry I've one arm in the sleeve of my coat already

[pete]

The Saudi King pardoned the woman in question today. Apparently it is some holiday that he traditionally pardons convicts on.

[osarusan]

my general point is that i think countries like the us/uk have no right to criticse the treatment of that teacher in sudan when you take into consideration their own poor records on respecting human rights,international law, fair trials, due process,etc

It would certainly be hypocritical, but their criticism would still be valid.

Anyway, she has been pardoned.

What I didn't realise at the time, and the media never seemed to mention it, was that the guy who was with her at the time was also raped, and he was given the same initial sentence as her. I don't know if he has been pardoned also.