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    U15 vs Juventus

    Great victory 3-0

    http://www.fai.ie/international/yout...-in-qatar.html

    Squad:

    Avis Ganiyu (Templeogue Utd),
    Brandon Payne (Lucan Utd),
    Conor Davis (Templeogue Utd),
    Conor Masterson (Lucan Utd),
    Corey Chambers (St Kevin’s Boys),
    Daniel Mandariou (St Kevin’s Boys),
    Robert McCourt (St Kevin’s Boys),
    Steven Kinsella (Templeogue Utd),
    Gareth Doherty (Letterkenny Rovers),
    Jessie Stafford Lacey (St Brendan’s Park),
    Jake Doyle Hayes (Ballyjamesduff),
    Sean Whelan (Lucan Utd),
    Jean Yves Pomme (BallyCorduff FC),
    Zachary Elbouzedi (Malahide Utd),
    Ross Treacy (Parkvilla FC),
    Stephen Nolan (BT Harps FC),
    Mark Buckley (Dunmanway Town),
    Conor Levingston (Gorey Rangers).


    Goals from Zachary Elbouzedi and Jean Yves Poam!
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    Some great names in that line-up, particularly the goalscorers. Get them capped immediately.
    Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?

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    Jean Yves Apple is surely a superstar in the making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Jean Yves Apple is surely a superstar in the making.
    With a name like that, I wonder was he called up using the "granny (smith) rule"?

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    Bonus points if he does have a granny Smith.

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    Great article about the multi ethnic origin of our U15s. It's getting to the point where I can't pronounce Irish representatives names! The future could be bright.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...327997546.html

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    But what's happened to the FAI's policy of selecting Catholics only?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    Great article about the multi ethnic origin of our U15s. It's getting to the point where I can't pronounce Irish representatives names! The future could be bright.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...327997546.html
    “This isn’t just a problem in football,” says McCue, who points out that under current rules and the Citizenship Act of 2005, Steve Heighway would not have been eligible to play for Ireland.
    Heighway was born in Dublin, but where were his parents from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    But what's happened to the FAI's policy of selecting Catholics only?!
    You must be Kieron Westwood in disguise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Heighway was born in Dublin, but where were his parents from?
    The M50!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    The M50!
    That was a terrible joke, deserves an auto ban!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    Great article about the multi ethnic origin of our U15s. It's getting to the point where I can't pronounce Irish representatives names! The future could be bright.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...327997546.html
    Born in Dublin, both of Avis’s parents are Nigerian. Until this season he played with Firhouse but has recently moved to Templeogue United.
    Beggars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Heighway was born in Dublin, but where were his parents from?
    His parents are English. He would be fully entitled to Irish citizenship under current laws.
    Also, Steve grew up in Dublin before moving to England at the age of 10.

    It appears that we have to take what Ken McCue (Sport Against Racism in Ireland) says, with a pinch of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    His parents are English. He would be fully entitled to Irish citizenship under current laws.
    Also, Steve grew up in Dublin before moving to England at the age of 10.

    It appears that we have to take what Ken McCue (Sport Against Racism in Ireland) says, with a pinch of salt.
    Indeed, a person born on the island of Ireland on or after the 1st of January, 2005 is entitled to be an Irish citizen if, non-exhaustively, at least one of his or her parents is a British citizen, is a resident of the island of Ireland who is entitled to reside in either the Republic or in Northern Ireland without any time limit on that residence or is a legal resident of the island of Ireland for three out of the 4 years preceding the child's birth (excluding any time spent seeking asylum or as a student).

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    “The upshot is that we’re losing the stars of the future to clubs in the likes of Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, Portugal and Germany.
    I think most on here would be happy with that, so long as they didn't represent another country, and it benefited the player.
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    I think the implication is that it's taken them out of the Irish system and makes them less likely to represent Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    I think most on here would be happy with that, so long as they didn't represent another country, and it benefited the player.
    Rather than worrying about a 65 year old ex player does anyone know anything about Temmy Raheem who is going to play in Belgium? As Paul mentioned such moves would be welcomed by most on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    I think most on here would be happy with that, so long as they didn't represent another country, and it benefited the player.
    I don't really understand his point. Is he saying the problem is that the delay in acquiring passports is excluding players from getting breaks and opportunities (abroad, presumably) or is he saying that it's leading to players moving abroad? I don't see the connection between a delay in acquiring an Irish passport and moving abroad if the latter is the case.

    And sure we've traditionally lost players to English clubs for God knows how long. What difference does it make if the go to Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, Portugal or Germany? Is he implying that it's a bad thing - that we're a losing party - or am I misreading him? All the better for Irish players in general to experience variety, I say.

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    Ya but he uses the term upshot, and then losing. I don't consider it losing, if they go off and still represent Ireland. But i imagine thats what he meants alright CD.

    But as DI makes out, are the citizenship laws in other EU countries more laxed or something? Is he saying, that by going to Belgium they are more likely to represent that country, through for example residency or something? As they have no direct attachment to any EU country other than their own "native" countries, for example Côte d'ivoire, so htey are somewhat mercenaries in that they will play for any EU country depending on where they are living, and who gives them citizenship.Why, by not giving out Irish citizenship quicker, is he more likely to go to Belgium or austria for example, at first I read it that they have some connection or "roots" in these countries, but I'm not sure that's what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    I don't really understand his point. Is he saying the problem is that the delay in acquiring passports is excluding players from getting breaks and opportunities (abroad, presumably) or is he saying that it's leading to players moving abroad? I don't see the connection between a delay in acquiring an Irish passport and moving abroad if the latter is the case.

    And sure we've traditionally lost players to English clubs for God knows how long. What difference does it make if the go to Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, Portugal or Germany? Is he implying that it's a bad thing - that we're a losing party - or am I misreading him? All the better for Irish players in general to experience variety, I say.
    The point is that if they're only here for a couple of years and are not integrated in the international set-up, they'll have little reason to suddenly start showing up for international sessions when other countries may be offering the same and their clubs may well want to keep them around instead of going to Ireland, plus they'll have all the problems of integrating into a new culture. And that's before you consider that other players will have jumped ahead of them in the queue by virtue of being called up for sessions and games before them.

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