Quoteeven a stopped clock gets the time right twice a day......they stumbled on this appointment...should be commended for making it though
The appointment was not made by the process, ergo the process was a failure.Originally Posted by Ciaran
Also, one good move doesn't make up for so many bad ones.
even a stopped clock gets the time right twice a day......they stumbled on this appointment...should be commended for making it though
Bring back the plank
You have to applaud the caliber of manager they have appointed this time around, but there's more to it that just one disastrously bad managerial appointment for me. Just a couple of things to consider:
The 3 Man panel: I have never heard of any other Football Association that didn't have the balls to appoint their own manager. Delaney is probably kicking himself now that he can't take credit for this one
Don Givens: A man capable of rubbing Jesus up the wrong way, and a dreadful underage manager to boot. He's undermining our underage system in my opinion, why is he still there?
Doubt it would be exciting, and doubt it will happen at all especially with Trappatoni in charge
Theyve been completely vindicated in taking their time. Stumbled upon or not, their patience has been rewarded and only those who were most vocal in their distain for the process were found to be wrong in their demand for haste.
When the business end of qualifying for the SA comes around very few fans will be too concerned that no manager was in place for Brazil or what Don Givens is doing with his day.
Who is this guy, Trapper Tony?
No we haven't. That is all.
Funny that you mention that.
Have a look at what Delaney is quoted as saying on the official Fifa website with regards to our chances of qualifying from our group. here
While I'm delighted with appointment I wouldn't start praising the FAI just yet.
the process was to end up with a top class manager which it suceeded in = success. no brainer really
Well personally I don't go to Ireland matches so I cannot claim to be a fan. The true fans are those who go to almost every match including some away games. Have they been harsh, yes but the FAI board are on big money to make soccer a success in Ireland. I think that Delaney is teh best of a very poor bunch and has delivered well for club soccer in Ireland at least.
The FAI appear to be extremely unprofessional and promoting friends to positions is unforgivabel.
The deepest layer of human thinking and feeling somehow knows that God must exist - Pope Benedict XVI
Short answer - No!
Credit is due to intervening when the sham of a selection panel came up with no one better than El Tel.
But then that was a problem of Delaney's own cretining (new word serendipitously coined) so any praise or easing back on criticism is absolutely qualified.
I agree with the substantive issues in your post BUT as Eoin Hand astutely pointed out while locking horns with Cathal Dervan last week ...this process hasn't taken an exhaustive amount of time when seen alongside previous gaps between managers.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
The FAI are doing a decent-good job but they are an easy scapegoat.
There was no rush to appoint a manager and the FAI should be commended for not being rushed into a knee jerk appointment to appease the fans and media. The big hoo-ha over the length of time to make the appointment was created by the media and people with no idea what makes successful teams. Before we even played the Brazil game people were having a go at the FAI for not appointing someone. Can someone tell me what the rush was? We were 9 months from a competitive game.
Had the FAI acted on the wishes of the public we would have had Steve Coppell. While a decent manager, what has he ever done? A lot less than Terry Venables for a start. Where is he now? In the Premiership relegation zone. Maybe we'd have gotten Hodgson. Not quite as good as Trap. Or the Roy Keane brigade think he'd have been our saviour. Not bloody likely.
Regardless of whether the process worked as foreseen, and I wouldn't believe everything in the Indo (likewise some people need to understand how these things evolve and work), the fact that it was put in place and that they took their time means we have gotten a man who none of us dreamed was even a possibility. The FAI have done very well here and learned from their mistakes.
In many other aspects of the game they are doing excellent work as well. Ok we've had decades of ineptitude but this present FAI cannot be judged by the mistakes of previous administrations. If they are learning from their own mistakes that is enough for me. In this instance they clearly have.
here here Barney ...
Firstly, I am deligted that we have ended up with Trap rather than that con Venables.
Secondly the media + the bookies have loven the fact it has taken a few months to get the new mgr in place as it has given them the chance to milk it every step of the way via their moaning and speculation and so called favourite betting musical chairs fiasco. The media are only interested in selling papers, along some of the hacks interested in blowing their own horns. The bookies are only interested in taking bets from sucker punters, nothing else.
At the end of the day who cares how the process was carried out? The process has recieved far too much coverage really, but this is a reflection the information overloaded / short attention span society we live in.
bhs
While we are still awaiting, with bated breath, an "announcement" by the FAI this evening, consider the following media statements which have come out this morning:
Giovanni Trapattoni today posted a positive statement of intent by vowing to lead the Republic of Ireland to the 2010 World Cup finals.
Trapattoni has taken up the role of Republic manager on a two-year contract, so ending the Football Association of Ireland's 112-day search for a successor to Steve Staunton who was sacked at the end of October. rapattoni is confident Ireland can not only end their barren run of failing to reach the last three major tournaments, but even top the group.
'Qualifying for the World Cup in 2010 will be hard, and playing against the Italian team will make me proud, but it should be possible for Ireland to come first.'
Despite the number of candidates mentioned and interviewed for the post by a three-man head-hunting panel, Trapattoni has confirmed he was not approached until earlier this month.
'This is the time in a year when football managers receive offers, and this is what has happened to me,' added Trapattoni.
'In the last two weeks I received offers from various clubs, and about 10 days ago representatives of the Football Association of Ireland approached me. I found their offer very interesting.
'I am very comfortable here in Salzburg. We won the Austrian title last year and we have a great chance to win the title again this year.
'Leaving the title as a farewell present to my Bulls is now my number one aim.
'But the opportunity to manage the Irish team will give me a lot more time to spend with my family.
'Yesterday my lawyers in Milan and representatives of the FAI came to an agreement and I accepted their offer.'
Trapattoni has insisted there is a role for Liam Brady in the new Irish set-up if he so desires and is comfortable with the former midfielder combining the post with his current youth-team manager duties at Arsenal.
'I know Liam from our mutual time at Juventus,' said Trapattoni.
'I called him and asked him for his thoughts on my commitment with the FAI, and when he said it was okay, I asked him for assistance if needed.
'I am positive that (Arsenal manager) Arsene Wenger, who is a friend of mine, will lend me Liam's services if I called him.'
So..ah...what will Delaney's announcement be ?
Nit picking.
good post..his announcement will be..the process and length of time has proved to be the correct format as we have delivered a world class manager. We agreed not to rush the process in order to get the best and most viable candidate ..I believe we have done that. This is an exciting time for Irish Football along with the Increadsed revenue I am generating the future looks bright.
Bring back the plank
Regardless of whether he says the above, is the important thing not that we have gotten a top class manager? To be fair, the above post is indicative of the sort of bile that anyone who works for the FAI has to endure before they even do anything wrong.
Relax and rejoice. Us and the FAI are on the same side after all.
Criticisms of the process tend to be:
Why have a panel? It's not unusual to have a respected expert finding your manager. I remember the English FA getting Jimmy Armfield to choose Sven. Having 3 people is unusal but not astonishing.
Why have these 3 people? Admittedly they don;t set the world alight but then again we were unlikely to get Wenger to do it. If you exclude those working in the media (who didnt want to do it because it woudl compromise them) and those interested in the job the list is fairly small. In the end they werent going to be managing the team so I'm not sure it mattered.
The panel didnt pick Trapattoni. This seems valid though I don't think we have heard yet how it all came to pass. Someone obviously suggested Trap and contact was made via an agent. I woudlnt be surprised if he put his own name forward. But what should the FAI have done when his anme came up, say "We cant consider you because our panel havent identified you". A defintion of successful management is not letting the process get in the way of the goal.
It took too long. If the process had ended any time beofre a week ago, Venables would be the manager. I think early on the FAI decided they didnt want Venables and were lookgin for a more credible candidate. Even if they had identified Trapattoni in December, I think he would still not have started until May.
I don't like Delaney's hair. There is nor argument with this.
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