QuoteWhen I read the title of the thread I thought poor old "youngirish" had been shipped abroad.....Originally Posted by Metrostars
Not sure if this is the correct forum for this but why don't young Irish players get trials for continental clubs? I never hear of young players going to a club in Holland, Spain or Germany. Only to England/Scotland. Why is that? I only ask the question as I see a lot of young Americans getting trials in Holland, Sweden, Germany etc.
e.g. http://www.yanks-abroad.com/get.php?mode=players
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When I read the title of the thread I thought poor old "youngirish" had been shipped abroad.....
Tact is for people who are not witty enough to be sarcastic
Because English clubs ask first. Americans "tout" themselves to clubs but English clubs actively recruit Irish kids
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Wishful thinking.When I read the title of the thread I thought poor old "youngirish" had been shipped abroad.....
Or as an excellent poster on chatsoccer.eu says "how can our players play international football if they don't play internationally?".
Liam Miller & Michael Doyle have both played in Denmark, O'Shea, Stack and Gibson in Belgium but all on loan from UK clubs.
Its something I never understand either. Particularily if you're a defender. I always thought a good defender would have more chance of succeeding on the continent rather than the UK
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I think the technically good but physically lightweight players like Stephen McPhail and Liam Miller would have had better careers, or at least a better playing education, on the continent too.
Nothing stopped the players from seeking these moves themselevs. The facts are most Irish kids are afraid to do it, or at least feel comforable enough in the UK. Because the British clubs take these lads on when they're 15-16 they get engrained in that culture. And lets not forget the language/travel thing too
I'd love a few 17 year olds at Barca rather than Celtic but its up to the player 9and their families) to make it happen
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The lure of more cash in Britain, no language barrier, they're closer to home (in some cases they just stay home)......any more?
More glamour/chance of 'dream come true', precipitated by the infatuation with the English leagues in Ireland.
Concerns that continental birds may not be as slaggy as their English counterparts.
Hit the nail on the head there!
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[QUOTE=kingdom hoop;814811]More glamour/chance of 'dream come true', precipitated by the infatuation with the English leagues in Ireland.
Concerns that continental birds may not be as slaggy as their English counterparts.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about chicken, turkey, goose etc?......surely it depends on how you cook them.......although when you read stories in the Redtops about English players.....they seem to insist on roasting their birds!!
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Cheers! Being a carpenter by trade one begins to appreciate the fine art of hitting nails on the heed. Though of course for our young pretenders over in England the art of nailing their head into their hit tends to occupy minds a bit more.Hit the nail on the head there!
What level did they play at in those leagues? I'm all for playing on the continent, but if the level of play is not much higher than the level they would play in England/Scotland/Ireland then there's not much point.
Miller and Doyle were in the second division in Denmark with Aarhus, think Stack was in the second division in Belgium. Not sure about O'Shea and Gibson, but they were with Royal Antwerp, United's feeder club. Diarmuid O'Carroll is currently on loan in the Belgium second division.
Was James McCarthy watched by clubs in the Primera Liga?
Ronnie O'Brien, Time Magazines Man of the Century, played for Juventus.
The others were in Belgina 2nd division too. And no way in hell is that better than LOI standard...
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Maybe it is that the Americans that go to continental Europe are often of German decent etc.
I just think that some young players might be better served by coaching methods in Holland or Germany as opposed to England.
"Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
"Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.
joking aside, i think its a pretty straightforward case of very few of our young players being technically good enough to interest big european clubs. Those that are will generally be snapped up by the big premiership/championship scouting network in force across the country before any Spanish/Italian/Dutch etc even get a chance to see them. And i dont think our stock, as a footballing nation which produces technically gifted players, is particularly high across the continent so scouting Ireland is not a high priority for european clubs. Sad but true.
Last edited by SkStu; 14/11/2007 at 5:18 PM.
I'd see this as pretty accurate. We generally produce the hardworking but technically limited workhorse that the British game thrives upon. it's the same reason you don't see too many so called top British players plying their wares in Europe.
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